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  • Grandview2015
    Banned
    • Sep 2015
    • 327

    #511
    Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

    Originally posted by extremeskins04
    Not having luck here fellas. I'm about to throw my controller against the wall.

    EA. FIX THIS.

    FIX IT. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for this kind of gameplay from the CPU. It's ludicrous in fact.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rYIsZ4kzm_s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    Use Sabo playbooks. Take a lot of crap plays away

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    • extremeskins04
      That's top class!
      • Aug 2010
      • 3868

      #512
      Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

      Originally posted by Grandview2015
      Use Sabo playbooks. Take a lot of crap plays away
      But Grand that's not even a playbook issue. It's a core mechanic issue.

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      • mooch49
        Pro
        • Oct 2003
        • 915

        #513
        Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

        Originally posted by phillyfan23
        I do not think that was a good decision, he coulda had a touchdown. Thats another thing the ai qb does....they run a straight line towards the sidelines and sometimes throws it away a half yard from the LOS even if they could run 3-6 yards ahead. Makes no sense....


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        I don't necessarily agree. You see a lot of times in the NFL, a quarterback in that situation will throw ball out of bounds if he doesn't think he can run it in. There are occasions where a QB will try, but I believe that is the minority. I can't expect perfect AI decisions by the quarterback in a videogame. Even in real football, you can question a quarterbacks decision making. This clip showed there can be glimpses of the quarterback doing the right thing on occasion. So to me, I am thrilled to see these type of plays by the quarterback in a videogame. I also must note I do play with Josh's gameplan fixes, edited quarterback traits, and custom playbook. Not sure if any or all had a direct effect on this type of play.

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        • D81SKINS
          MVP
          • Dec 2014
          • 1671

          #514
          Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

          Originally posted by phillyfan23
          Ive been playing some games against cam newton and see how he does....

          I edited his traits to scramble, paranoid ideal force passes, and throwaway yes

          The good is i see less statue sacks a bit...but when he does break the pocket, 9 times out of 10 he starts scrambling but at the LOS he makes a throw against his body usually incomplete. Had he continued his run, he could have gotten 5-8 yards minimum.

          Should i decrease his force pass to minimum? The biggest himdrance to good ai right now is the cpu qb ai. It was PERFECT in madden 16. Playing against scramblers i used to use the shadow tactic against kaep newton wilson....

          Hopefully they can patch this as well as the zone coverage


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          Does the pocket trait allow qbs to play smarter in the pocket? Maybe the traits are mixed up, who knows??

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          • bad_philanthropy
            MVP
            • Jul 2005
            • 12167

            #515
            Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

            Have to agree with extremeskins. I've done a bunch of testing today. I played around with traits, sliders, even editing elusiveness ratings—I think the qb ai issue is deeper than the variables users can play with.

            Right now the Madden qb is a decent throwing machine, but doesn't play the qb
            position authentically imo. Their relationship with the los and passing is a strange one, and they will always make a crazy tough throw or take a sack before picking up very easy yardage with their legs. I'm still trying to figure out what exactly is going on.

            I'd love the devs to address this.

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            • Grandview2015
              Banned
              • Sep 2015
              • 327

              #516
              Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

              Originally posted by extremeskins04
              But Grand that's not even a playbook issue. It's a core mechanic issue.
              It's been a core issue for a few years. I am just trying to workaround so I don't give up on a potential decent game

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              • extremeskins04
                That's top class!
                • Aug 2010
                • 3868

                #517
                Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                Originally posted by Grandview2015
                It's been a core issue for a few years. I am just trying to workaround so I don't give up on a potential decent game
                I know, and I hear ya. I had to get up and take a breather for a few lol.

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                • cable guy
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 3288

                  #518
                  Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                  Originally posted by extremeskins04
                  Not having luck here fellas. I'm about to throw my controller against the wall.

                  EA. FIX THIS.

                  FIX IT. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason for this kind of gameplay from the CPU. It's ludicrous in fact.

                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rYIsZ4kzm_s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                  I hear ya.

                  As far as cpu qb taking off, I gave up last year. Most other things with cpu qb and offense I had success. But not that

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                  • cable guy
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 3288

                    #519
                    Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                    Originally posted by Grandview2015
                    It's been a core issue for a few years. I am just trying to workaround so I don't give up on a potential decent game
                    Yep.

                    Same as I did last year. Turned out to be the best Madden ever. For me anyway. And yeah that's despite scrambling qbs not running. That's how many good factors it had going for it

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                    • Grandview2015
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 327

                      #520
                      Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                      NBA 2k is my game, but I have workarounds for that too and AI isn't perfect.

                      My fear for patch is it will mess up working stuff, but I saw the guys Twitch today so I am encouraged, but every time I try to put the game down I do find something I like. They just better hurry before that other game above comes out

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                      • extremeskins04
                        That's top class!
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3868

                        #521
                        Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                        Maybe I'll restart my CFM and just play single-player online. Is the QB gameplay better cause of the tuners?

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                        • D81SKINS
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 1671

                          #522
                          Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                          As a community are the Devs even looking at this? My tweets don't seem to matter.

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                          • phillyfan23
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 2319

                            #523
                            Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                            Originally posted by Grandview2015
                            It's been a core issue for a few years. I am just trying to workaround so I don't give up on a potential decent game


                            No this qbu ai has not been an issue for years. It was COMPLETELY realistic in madden 16. It was even better than "gasp" nfl 2k5....actually it was MUCH better. They did something to mess it up but if they did it before they can do it again and deliver good qb ai.


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                            • extremeskins04
                              That's top class!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3868

                              #524
                              Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                              Originally posted by phillyfan23
                              No this qbu ai has not been an issue for years. It was COMPLETELY realistic in madden 16. It was even better than "gasp" nfl 2k5....actually it was MUCH better. They did something to mess it up but if they did it before they can do it again and deliver good qb ai.


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                              Yea in M16 it was good. But it was because of the Tuck & Run trait, but the online and competitive people complained so EA removed it.

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                              • Grandview2015
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2015
                                • 327

                                #525
                                Re: As a community we cannot accept the current CPU QB play.

                                Originally posted by phillyfan23
                                No this qbu ai has not been an issue for years. It was COMPLETELY realistic in madden 16. It was even better than "gasp" nfl 2k5....actually it was MUCH better. They did something to mess it up but if they did it before they can do it again and deliver good qb ai.


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                                I forgot about 16. QB like Wilson would kill me for bad blitzes

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