Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

[roadman]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

I'm using the Lions in my dynasty. I don't blitz much like the Lions in real life.

Cliff Avril was my leading sack artist for the Lions and Vanden Bosh was second in my first year.

I control the FS in all my games.

[GameTape]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

I'm using the Lions in my dynasty. I don't blitz much like the Lions in real life.

Cliff Avril was my leading sack artist for the Lions and Vanden Bosh was second in my first year.

I control the FS in all my games.

Can you tell me what sliders & coaching schemes you are using? Im gonna keep trying to get your results.

[dfos81]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Can you tell me what sliders & coaching schemes you are using? Im gonna keep trying to get your results.

Lol, its not just working for few of us offline but the majority! See some feedback for yourself. Normal/All Pro/Realism
Now the problem is online doesnt allow for these mods to Madden Franchise.

Also your point of the thread, about the O-line Pass blk vs D-line pass rush not being realistic. This has been an ongoing issue w/ Madden for a long while now. Suction blocking and the DTs are overpowering @ default.
So for quite a few yrs now alot of guys like Kb, me, and others have known of this issue and have modded the game offline to be able to enjoy it. Online is just a migraine waiting imo lol

Now you gotta attempt to show us some game stats, sliders, settings, threshold, Coaching schemes, etc. Something!
We can only lead you to water, we cant make you drink it.

[CRMosier_LM]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Lol, its not just working for few of us offline but the majority! See some feedback for yourself. Normal/All Pro/Realism
Now the problem is online doesnt allow for these mods to Madden Franchise.

Also your point of the thread, about the O-line Pass blk vs D-line pass rush not being realistic. This has been an ongoing issue w/ Madden for a long while now. Suction blocking and the DTs are overpowering @ default.
So for quite a few yrs now alot of guys like Kb, me, and others have known of this issue and have modded the game offline to be able to enjoy it. Online is just a migraine waiting imo lol

Now you gotta attempt to show us some game stats, sliders, settings, threshold, Coaching schemes, etc. Something!
We can only lead you to water, we cant make you drink it.

How are thousands of users playing in online franchise not having these issues?

[Scott]

How are thousands of users playing in online franchise not having these issues?

They are seeing them.


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[GameTape]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Lol, its not just working for few of us offline but the majority! See some feedback for yourself. Normal/All Pro/Realism
Now the problem is online doesnt allow for these mods to Madden Franchise.

Also your point of the thread, about the O-line Pass blk vs D-line pass rush not being realistic. This has been an ongoing issue w/ Madden for a long while now. Suction blocking and the DTs are overpowering @ default.
So for quite a few yrs now alot of guys like Kb, me, and others have known of this issue and have modded the game offline to be able to enjoy it. Online is just a migraine waiting imo lol

Now you gotta attempt to show us some game stats, sliders, settings, threshold, Coaching schemes, etc. Something!
We can only lead you to water, we cant make you drink it.

Ive been trying all the suggestions mentioned...Im gonna put together another major testing session right now...ill be back with videos and stats

[GameTape]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

How are thousands of users playing in online franchise not having these issues?

How do you know they arent?

[roadman]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Ive been trying all the suggestions mentioned...Im gonna put together another major testing session right now...ill be back with videos and stats

I'm hoping you are testing over a 16 game season in franchise mode with each game played out. Really, 16 games is a real small sample size compared to the sample size the slider gurus have put in. I'm sure PM, Dfos and KB have put in 1000's of hours over time and games to produce the results they are getting.

You don't need to bring videos and stats and whatever proof you want to bring to the table. Not many of us are disagreeing that this isn't an issue, but the work a round work for most of us works. If you bring back videos, stats and other proof highlighting your issues, that's fine, I believe you. I'm not going to get into a your word , my word with anyone as this is a known issue.

[dfos81]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Ive been trying all the suggestions mentioned...Im gonna put together another major testing session right now...ill be back with videos and stats

We dont need videos to help you w/ your setup. Just some stats on some problem areas for you and of course sliders, settings, threshold, schemes, not so much of videos. We know about the suction blocking and dts blk shedding and w/ 50 threshold, they are extremely good pass rushers too lol.

[GameTape]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Testing is complete, and the results are the same. The workarounds DO NOT WORK.

Dfos, as you know, i went literally step by step with you. I put in all the coaching schemes, sliders, settings, just like you told me, and tested in franchise mode (which i dont even like).

Now im gonna provide evidence.

DT with sack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8T5KYnvOqo

DT with sack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB9lKOCNXiA

DT with sack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBqK7tibbFo

Both DT bust through, neither one cares about coach settings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzF5afKmXoY

Final sack totals for the game.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gv5747.jpg

What a surprise, the DT has most sacks, followed by DE, then another DT.

The following play is what i think may be happening to those that report realistic sack totals. The DE technically gets the sack, but the DT was right there a split second away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEZwt2JeaPs

Now, im tired of testing, im tired of finding solutions that dont work, and im tired of having to defend my criticism. If anyone wants to prove me wrong and show that this is fixable, then provide the evidence like i have, anyone with internet can upload highlights.

[roadman]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

Testing is complete, and the results are the same. The workarounds DO NOT WORK.

Dfos, as you know, i went literally step by step with you. I put in all the coaching schemes, sliders, settings, just like you told me, and tested in franchise mode (which i dont even like).

Now im gonna provide evidence.

DT with sack
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/106439831
DT with sack
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/106439802
DT with sack
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/106439698
Both DT bust through, neither one cares about coach settings.
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/106439808
Final sack totals for the game.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gv5747.jpg

What a surprise, the DT has most sacks, followed by DE, then another DT.

The following play is what i think may be happening to those that report realistic sack totals. The DE technically gets the sack, but the DT was right there a split second away.
http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/106440029

Now, im tired of testing, im tired of finding solutions that dont work, and im tired of having to defend my criticism. If anyone wants to prove me wrong and show that this is fixable, then provide the evidence like i have, anyone with internet can upload highlights.

This was a typical response that I knew you would come back with. A few hours of testing. No one is refuting your evidence. Why would we? We aren't saying you are wrong and we are right, or you are right and we are wrong? I'm not sure why you keep going on and on about people proving you wrong when most of us know the issue. We also know a work around that works.

With three kids, I don't have the time or energy to go over every sack by a DE that happens in my season and film it and upload it to the net for someone's satisfaction.

One game is too small of a sample size vs the others slider gurus 1000 of hours and games of testing the game.

Hopefully, EA provides a fix for this next year. Time will tell.

[GameTape]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

This was a typical response that I knew you would come back with. A few hours of testing. No one is refuting your evidence. Why would we? We aren't saying you are wrong and we are right, or you are right and we are wrong? I'm not sure why you keep going on and on about people proving you wrong when most of us know the issue. We also know a work around that works.

With three kids, I don't have the time or energy to go over every sack by a DE that happens in my season and film it and upload it to the net for someone's satisfaction.

One game is too small of a sample size vs the others slider gurus 1000 of hours and games of testing the game.

Hopefully, EA provides a fix for this next year. Time will tell.

You dont need to play thousands of games to realize this is a problem, you can notice its a problem after playing one game.

The workarounds dont work.

It only takes 5 minutes to upload a few highlights of realistic DE sacks.

And to answer your question, the reason is because people are dismissing my complaint simply because they claim there is a workaround. Well no there isnt.

[roadman]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

You dont need to play thousands of games to realize this is a problem, you can notice its a problem after playing one game.

The workarounds dont work. Im 100% convinced of that now.

It only takes 5 minutes to upload a highlight of a realistic DE sack, or a screenshot of realistic sack totals.

No need for you to claim your opinion is the only opinion that is correct. Sorry, you will need to live without a highlight from me.

I've never uploaded a highlight/screenshot to the net and I'm not starting now. If you choose to not believe me or calling me a liar, I could care less.

Not sure why it's so important to you to say, I'm right, the rest of you are all wrong, but have it.

Whoa, no one is dismissing your complaint. Do you really think this was the only thread on this issue? Go to the search function at the top right and enter pass rush. You will note a larger thread from a few months ago.

Again, most of us know this is a issue, it's been a know issue for a few years. Those of us that use offline franchise have a workaround that works, but we would like the issue fixed so we don't need to use the workaround anymore. Make sense?

[GameTape]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

No need for you to claim your opinion is the only opinion that is correct. Sorry, you will need to live without a highlight from me.

I've never uploaded a highlight/screenshot to the net and I'm not starting now. If you choose to not believe me or calling me a liar, I could care less.

Not sure why it's so important to you to say, I'm right, the rest of you are all wrong, but have it.

No, i dont care about being right or wrong. I wish i was wrong, so that i could enjoy my game. I wish i could say "sorry guys, you were right, the workaround works". It doesnt work. It bothers me that people dismiss my complaint simply because they claim a workaround fixes it, when it doesnt.

[dfos81]

Re: Not enough pressure from DE's, too much pressure from DT's

This was a typical response that I knew you would come back with. A few hours of testing. No one is refuting your evidence. Why would we? We aren't saying you are wrong and we are right, or you are right and we are wrong? I'm not sure why you keep going on and on about people proving you wrong when most of us know the issue. We also know a work around that works.

With three kids, I don't have the time or energy to go over every sack by a DE that happens in my season and film it and upload it to the net for someone's satisfaction.

One game is too small of a sample size vs the others slider gurus 1000 of hours and games of testing the game.

Hopefully, EA provides a fix for this next year. Time will tell.

Yeah he proved to us what we already know as an issue.
Also I know when my sack leaders at the end of the season are LBs Kerrigan, Orakpo, and Mcintosh. Well this was w/ 0 priority on O-lineman and 0 on defense. Set your Dts to runstopping, and instead of them blk shedding they just take up space and draw 2lineman at times.
It's really going to be different based off your team and sliders used.
What's hilarious is he doesn't even like offline.
And 50 to his 1 say they can tell a difference when applying the correct schemes, sliders, etc. He plays 1 game and can see no difference, so that means we are all wrong lol
Maybe he should stay online if he doesn't like offline. :wink: