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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
It's only dogs...essentially what Vick and his buddies did is on the same level as them putting a cap in your family dog's head. It's only a dog, right? Why would you be sad? It's not a human. God forbid someone form some sort of attachment with an animal...
Eh, I'm done with this discussion, I'll agree to disagree...I just think this is way different than cows and other food because they were being FORCED to fight, and then tortured before dying via very inhumane ways (electrocution, other things). To say that's just the same as what butchers do is very uninformed.Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
The court system is flawed.I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm XComment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
That is my point. There has to be some degree of the seriousness of a crime in order to place sentencing. If you ask majority of the people here what crime is more serious, killing a dog or killing your wife, I'd bet that killing your wife would win by a landslide. BUT not only is it more serious but the extreme nature of the crime should just outdistance itself by a landslide. And not just by a couple of years.
The court system is flawed.Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
Because dogs are domesticated pets. They have been pets for hundreds(if not thousands) of years. When was the last time you heard of someone having a cow for pet?Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
I don't see the hypocrisy. Although that could be due to regional or cultural differences based on our backgrounds.
Last time I checked, we weren't killing dogs for food. Killing for sport and entertainment is completely different than killing for food.
Bear in mind, I am not a big fan of hunting or hunters, but I do recognize in certain cases the need for population control of certain species.
For me, this is a case of personal responsibility, and Vick has no one to blame but himself. Too much to lose to be this kind of stuff. Guy had every advantage in the world handed to him, because he was an athlete and pissed it away over dogfighting of all things.Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
And? So it's not his fault he's that he lost his livelihood. It falls on someone else? In the end he's got no one to blame but himself. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
This is exactly the thinking that allows athletes like Vick to think the laws don't apply to them.
I'm not saying Vick shouldn't of gotten no time at all. Cause he did in fact break the law and was caught. My whole point since I started posting in this thread is I think the punishment is too severe.http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)Comment
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I dont care if it were Vick or my next door neibor, no person should be punished like that for the killing of an animal while my home and I'm sure your home is stock full of dead animals.
I'm not saying Vick shouldn't of gotten no time at all. Cause he did in fact break the law and was caught. My whole point since I started posting in this thread is I think the punishment is too severe.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Vick knowingly mislead his interviewers post plea, he knowingly smoked Marijana when he knew he was going to be tested, and mislead the investigators about his usage, and this was after pleading to several felonies.
I'd say his sentence is right about where it should be.From what I read if not for his post conviction shenanigans, his sentence would have been closer to 12-18 months.Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
I dont care if it were Vick or my next door neibor, no person should be punished like that for the killing of an animal while my home and I'm sure your home is stock full of dead animals.
I'm not saying Vick shouldn't of gotten no time at all. Cause he did in fact break the law and was caught. My whole point since I started posting in this thread is I think the punishment is too severe.
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I'm sure it's the differences in backgrounds. Like I've said before, I hunt so I see the hypocrisy first hand. I've seen hunters shoot a deer and leave it dying for upwards of 30 minutes because they don't want to waste another bullet to put the thing out of its' misery. That kind of stuff to me is just as bad as what Vick did, but a hunter who does that would never be charged with anything.
As I said, I am not a big fan of hunting or hunters, in the first place.Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
It's only dogs...essentially what Vick and his buddies did is on the same level as them putting a cap in your family dog's head. It's only a dog, right? Why would you be sad? It's not a human. God forbid someone form some sort of attachment with an animal...
Eh, I'm done with this discussion, I'll agree to disagree...I just think this is way different than cows and other food because they were being FORCED to fight, and then tortured before dying via very inhumane ways (electrocution, other things). To say that's just the same as what butchers do is very uninformed.
Eh I actually own a dog...and a cat. Had numerous dogs and cats, gerbils and goldfish throughout my life. While we can grow to be attached to an pet, the truth is that they are as expendable a creature as you can ever have. I've lost dogs, had dogs put to sleep and had to give away dogs I've grown attached to. While I can admit it hurts to lose what one would consider a friend, I can also admit that the hurt a person feels over losing an animal is more artificial than sincere. If the said animal was replaced by next week, the old animal will be nothing more than a memory and all is well again. And this is coming from someone who owns a 15 year old dog.http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)Comment
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So what you're saying is you have no compassion or even a hint of guilt for the turkeys you cook every thanksgiving? Because it doesn't live with you? So would you feel just as bad for a wolf since they are a part of the dog species?http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
In my world of thinking, if Vick wasn't involved in all of this, nobody would be worrying if his punishment was too severe.
To some, that may be a nutty way of thinking, but when you get yourself in trouble...you gotta eat the s**t that is given to you. Life's not fair. Especially when you go around with no caution and with no common sense.
He did the crime. Now, he does the time. End of story for me.
This thread is still going on? Geez.Comment
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Unless he was planning to eat the dogs, I don't see your point.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Vick knowingly mislead his interviewers post plea, he knowingly smoked Marijana when he knew he was going to be tested, and mislead the investigators about his usage, and this was after pleading to several felonies.
I'd say his sentence is right about where it should be.From what I read if not for his post conviction shenanigans, his sentence would have been closer to 12-18 months.
Ok, I can see your point. If the time he has to serve is moreso but not entierly based on the lies and his own idiocracy, then I have no choice but to say he got what he deserved. If this were all based on the fact that he ran a dog fighting ring, then I think the punishment is severe.http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
We don't kill turkeys for fun, it's to eat. Part of the food chain. Vick didn't torture those dogs so he could eat them.Comment
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