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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
I gotta be honest. These Vick threads are some of the most useless threads I've ever seen on this board. Its the same people on each side arguing the same things and all are a little biased. The majority of the ones arguing that Vick got the right amount of time are either guys who hated Vick as an athlete, dog owners and lovers and/or staunch law and order types. The majority of people supporting Vick are blind Vick fans, non dog/pet owners (like myself) and/or the type who will argue "injustice" anytime someone famous in their race gets convicted of anything.
I swear if some of you took the time to search for the old Vick threads, you would realize that everyone is arguing the same points they did when this story first broke and when he plead guilty. No one is going to change their minds here.
Good thing I never participated in those Vick threads. I'm not really defending Vick. I just dont like the sentence that was handed down. Pro athlete or no pro athlete.http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
What the prosecution offered which was 18 mos. The extra 6 mos was because of the press attention that this case brings and the judge wanted to put on a show. I wouldnt be surprised if the Judge wrote a book after this. Fed judges usually go with whatever the prosecution offers.Comment
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its embarrassing for me to be spouting the truth? where are the animal rights activists? animals are being discriminated against and some animals have more rights then others. you don't see PETA lobbying for animal rights do you? nah i didn't think so because they say that they love animals so much but they are not trying to make them on a humans level. whats more i keep hearing the same excuses about how chickens, turkey, and cows are much different then dogs because we kill them to eat. so what dogs and cats get more rights then them because they taste good?Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
This is being lost on many who are so emotionally in raged by the thought of dog fighting/dog's dying they are ignoring what many have to say and labeling them as saying something else. It's just like the last Vick thread.
It's nothing like putting a cap in the family dog's head. It's not even in the same universe. I was trying to stay out of this but some are missing some good points to the counter argument (while focusing only on the over the top ones). The dogs involved in dog fights are bred specifically for that reason and trained pretty much from birth to be killers. At no time are they intended to be "the family pet" which is why many of the dogs the FBI claimed were put down anyway. To get a better understanding of some of the different opinions here, this point is important. The breeding of the dogs is the bigger crime, essentially creating these killing creatures. The animals they had fighting can't be compared to anything you'd pick up from a shelter or let sleep at the foot of your bed.
What happens after these "monsters" are made is already inevitable. It doesn't make any sense to pull up psychological studies of how close this is to killing a human or even how someone can enjoy killing an animal in general. These dogs have no use in society and are nothing but a danger to everyone around them. If they can no longer fight, they must be put down just as the FBI did when they took the live dogs from Vick's place.
I agree with you though, it's the breeding/fighting that I'm more at odds with. I don't agree with how they killed them (as you and I say, pretty damn horrific ways), but not a whole lot more they could do at that point. They'd all ready raised killer fighting dogs, no way they can be salvaged.
We're just lucky that none of the dogs killed any kids or other people. Just recently a 5 year old around me was killed by the family pet, I don't want to imagine what one of Vick's dogs would have done if it got loose.Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
Do you think the extra 6 mos. that were added that people say were due to his post plea actions, were overblown and just an excuse to extend his sentence? If someone does lie to the PO after entering a plea, and they are found to have lied is it normal to get a stiffer sentence? Or is what happend to Vick, irregular on that front?Comment
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Although I tend to put creedence in what you say. That being said, I have zero problems with the sentence. I think it's more than fair to both sides.
Now the next question is, his eligibility to be re-instated to the league after he is released. That one I keep going back and forth on.Comment
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Your first paragraph is a much better explaination than what I was saying. Also, this is a good post. I never mentioned that he didn't deserve to go to jail. I understand he was punished because he broke the law. My whole point is that its much to harsh to punish this guy while Dice posted that a guy who only got 5 years for admittingly murdering his wife. It shows how screwed up our contires priorities are. We'd rather shun and smear a guy who kills these poor, defensless animals than a guy who takes another human beings life.Comment
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Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison
Interesting. I have talked to 5 people about this stuff, all with a background in it, and all have given different answers.
Although I tend to put creedence in what you say. That being said, I have zero problems with the sentence. I think it's more than fair to both sides.
Now the next question is, his eligibility to be re-instated to the league after he is released. That one I keep going back and forth on.Comment
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ya see i could care less about michael vick, this subject is beyond him now. he took his plea he got his time and he is going to jail anyway. you say that PETA is trying to lobby for animals rights? animals have not and will never have rights. spike still can't pick his owner or whether or not he wants an owner. in the end dogs will just be like store bought products. you buy and take care of it but when it breaks, you mourn, then buy a new one.Last edited by realtalktruth; 12-11-2007, 02:54 PM. Reason: mourn, sob, i could not find the right word.Originally posted by bkrich83Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.Originally posted by bkrich83It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.Comment
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no one was talking about PETA when i mentioned the cows and chickens, i was talking about the posters of this forum.
ya see i could care less about michael vick, this subject is beyond him now. he took his plea he got his time and he is going to jail anyway. you say that PETA is trying to lobby for animals rights? animals have not and will never have rights. spike still can't pick his owner or whether or not he wants an owner. in the end dogs will just be like store bought products. you buy and take care of it but when breaks, you soak, then buy a new one.
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The only reason they're bred for fighting is because people like Vick bankroll the fighting rings. I'm against dog fighting, **** fighting, bullfighting, etc. I understand that once the dogs are bred to be that evil and mean there's nothing you can do with them.
I agree with you though, it's the breeding/fighting that I'm more at odds with. I don't agree with how they killed them (as you and I say, pretty damn horrific ways), but not a whole lot more they could do at that point. They'd all ready raised killer fighting dogs, no way they can be salvaged.
We're just lucky that none of the dogs killed any kids or other people. Just recently a 5 year old around me was killed by the family pet, I don't want to imagine what one of Vick's dogs would have done if it got loose.
Some people also raise their dogs in such a manner to protect as well. If your dog ripped off a possible intruders limb and prevented a home burglary, you'd probably change your tune.http://neverfollow.biz (Independent Music Group)Comment
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