Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

[bkrich83]

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BTW, you'd never want to see dog fighting. I've never seen a fight but I've seen the effects and knew the type of people involved. I guess like everything else it's a bit of a catch 22. Being exposed to the disgusting things that happen in this world make you more aware and are able to be more rational in evaluating things, but it also desensitizes you making things that should be unthinkable easier to accept. Is it better to be ignorant or desensitized? Not quite sure.

Truer words have never been spoken on these forums. The brutality of dog fighting and the aftermath is beyond words.

[bkrich83]

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I don't think Vick needed more time, i just see so many people trivializing dog fighting like it's not that bad and it kinda concerns me. I can watch horror movies, but it's way different from Saw to actually watching dogs claw each other to death. Kinda sickens me, honestly.

I am in the exact same boat.

I often wonder if the people saying it's no big deal really know what goes in to dogfighting. If they do and still say the same thing, then I truly feel sorry for them.

[ZB9]

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the breeding of those dogs to be killers, and the world of the dog fights itself, it's beyond atrocious

I cant understand how someone could do that to any dog. I certainly never could. Vick is a POS for what he did to those dogs imo, but the dogs that his employess killed were not normal dogs. What do you do if a fighting dog cant fight anymore? You cant exactly "rehabilitate" a pitbull that has been bred to be a killer.

The breeding itself is as atrocious and borderline evil as the fighting, because those dogs have no place in normal society.

[Brandwin]

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I'd be just as disgusted.



You couldn't be more wrong. I would risk my life in order to protect my cat, and I would have done the same to protect my dog.

Really? I mean you would risk your life to save an animal? You would risk the chance of causing your family the pain of not having a loved one around anymore to save a pet?

I guess I just don't get it.

[bkrich83]

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the breeding of those dogs to be killers, and the world of the dog fights itself, it's beyond atrocious

I cant understand how someone could do that to any dog. I certainly never could. Vick is a POS for what he did to those dogs imo, but the dogs that his employess killed were not normal dogs. What do you do if a fighting dog cant fight anymore? You cant exactly "rehabilitate" a pitbull that has been bred to be a killer.

Seems to me there are better ways to get rid of those dogs than electrocution, hanging or drowning. No?

[ZB9]

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Seems to me there are better ways to get rid of those dogs than electrocution, hanging or drowning. No?

absolutely. Vick is a borderline evil POS for doing that to those dogs or having that done to those dogs

however, i doubt that is the reason he got the sentence that he got.

[Knight165]

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I like your example and question. So you're basically saying humans should be equal to canines? Then why do we lock them in cages, put leashes on them and make them pee outdoors? Why cant they roam about like normal people?

Sorry for answering a question with a question but whatever you wrote of the end is a little of base. Killing another human and comparing that to a human killing a dog is farfetched IMO. Maybe because I dont understand your question but the two dont compare.

And as long as we are the superior species, we will continue to control all who are under us. If you're so for equality amongst animal and man, you should visit the safari and see how long you'll survive when you're out of your element.

What in the heck are you talking about?
We are on the topic of Michael Vick running a despicable dog fighting operation and the way he tortured and killed these dogs.
You keep bringing up the human vs. animal argument(irrelevant) and now you are trying to bring in how a human would fare in the safari?
BUT...by your "superior species" argument......I guess rats and insects are superior to us...since we cannot kill them off and it's been duly noted by many a scientist that those would be the only species to survive a cataclysmic event.


M.K.
Knight165

[ZB9]

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ZB...it's not in the breed....it's in the TRAINING.

M.K.
Knight165

i agree it's about the training

but why do you think that pitbulls are the breed chosen most of the time for that type of training? I doubt i could train my Lab to be a killer.

[Graphik]

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I simply put everyone on the same level. Humans have proven over and over to me that they have no better right to be here on this planet than anyone else. Humans are supposed to use their intellect differently. We're supposed to understand that torturing other animals is wrong, right? That makes us superior supposedly. Our higher intellect should leave us with that ability and elevate us among the beasts I would think. Too bad too many aren't higher than beasts.

Graphik, I understand that many see dogs and cats as disposable products, put forth on this earth to be subservient to mankind, and in some ways I certainly do agree with that. But I do believe that we are of a higher intellect and we should be able to see that these creatures can't abley fight back and the type of behavior that Vick and his cronies showed was sickening. Someone who can knowingly inflict pain on another creature... well, that person is no higher than an animal in many people's book.

Knowingly inflict pain?????? Are you serious??

How many man made devices are specifically designed to hunt and kill animals? Do you think a farmer sheds a tear for each cow thats killed for our pleasure knowing that it was he, who stuck the cow to a hook and watch him slide off into a machine that slices the poor things throat?

What I want to know is why do you guys care so much about domestic animals and not for animals who are currently being slaughtered and not just for food, for entertainment and everything else under the sun. You typed about what elevates humans above animals yet you are pretty much fine with that coat you got on which can be made from anything from geese feathers, to fox fur to alligator. It keeps you warm right? Where is the love for those animals? What I would like to know is what elevates a dog above every other specie of animal?

[realtalktruth]

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Really? I mean you would risk your life to save an animal? You would risk the chance of causing your family the pain of not having a loved one around anymore to save a pet? I guess I just don't get it.

what about if his dog and a stranger were drowning? would he really go for his dog first?

Seems to me there are better ways to get rid of those dogs than electrocution, hanging or drowning. No?

like what?

[bkrich83]

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Knowingly inflict pain?????? Are you serious??

How many man made devices are specifically designed to hunt and kill animals? Do you think a farmer sheds a tear for each cow thats killed for our pleasure knowing that it was he, who stuck the cow to a hook and watch him slide off into a machine that slices the poor things throat?

What I want to know is why do you guys care so much about domestic animals and not for animals who are currently being slaughtered and not just for food, for entertainment and everything else under the sun. You typed about what elevates humans above animals yet you are pretty much fine with that coat you got on which can be made from anything from geese feathers, to fox fur to alligator. It keeps you warm right? Where is the love for those animals? What I would like to know is what elevates a dog above every other specie of animal?

What I'd like to know is how is this remotely relevant to the Mike Vick incident. Is it your thought that those make what he did acceptable?

I've also stated numerous times, that I find it despicable the killing and maiming of any animal for entertainment, sport or financial gain. I find humans that commit such acts to be just as guilty as Vick.

[bkrich83]

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like what?

Seriously? You know how many more humane forms of euthanasia there are? Particularly the sedative, sodium pentabarbital.

You find electrocution, drowning and hanging as acceptable?

[ZB9]

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I've also stated numerous times, that I find it despicable the killing and maiming of any animal for entertainment, sport or financial gain. I find humans that commit such acts to be just as guilty as Vick.

I agree

but i doubt that is the reason that Vick got the sentence that he did.

[bkrich83]

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I agree

but i doubt that is the reason that Vick got the sentence that he did.

I believe he got the sentence he did, because that was the sentence he deserved. If not, I really don't care why, as I believe the sentence fits the crime.

Had he not commited a series of heinous crimes and other related felonies this would be a non-issue. There is no excuse for his behavior.

[realtalktruth]

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Seriously? You know how many more humane forms of euthanasia there are? Particularly the sedative, sodium pentabarbital.

You find electrocution, drowning and hanging as acceptable?

you said michael vick could of found better ways to kill the dogs. i doubt he would have the resources to get stuff like that, and him being the celebrity that he is, if he managed to get it there would be questions raised. so tell me again a better way for vick to kill the dogs.