Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

[wwharton]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Not to the same scale as what Vick was able to accomplish undetected. You're absolutley right without the cousin, this is probably still going on, which proves my point. He could have aquired whatever he wanted to without much problem.

this is true under the general levels of organized crime. what you're talking about would've stuck out like a sour thumb. but lets say hypothetically, you're right and he could've gone above and beyond to find ways of killing the dogs that no other dog fighters could possibly do. that still speaks to dog fighting in general and that what they did was normal practice for dog fighting in general. then he would've actually been special, putting is butt on the line with an organized gambling racket to kill dogs humanely. something no other dog fighter would dream of doing b/c of the cost and the risk. meanwhile, he still bred these dogs to be vicious, still had them fighting other dogs to the death and still would've been putting down the losers. I know that wouldn't make you feel better about the situation and it would've been asking to get caught.

[dave360]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

You ARE kidding, right?

Nope, not kidding. I hope he gets a shiv in the back his second day in prison. I really wish they'd have put him in a room with 20 or 30 pit bulls, covered him with meat, and let them at him, but that's not humane. Michael Vick is a piece of garbage.

[marshallfever]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Nope, not kidding. I hope he gets a shiv in the back his second day in prison. I really wish they'd have put him in a room with 20 or 30 pit bulls, covered him with meat, and let them at him, but that's not humane. Michael Vick is a piece of garbage.

You hate what hes done to animals, yet you wouldn't think twice about doing that to him.....hummmmmmm

[Vince]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

of course he isn't. i think its safe to say that killing and torturing dogs is wrong, but wishing the person who did it rape, violence, and death is ok.

you kill someone (purposely), you deserve to die...plain and simple.

[mutumbo888]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

if these were chickens or mice or a fish no one would give a F U C K.

I just find this extremely hypocritical. seeing how abortion is legal, our society cares more about protecting a dog over a human?

this law needs to be changed, it is too harsh and I wouldn't be surprised if many people write their congressman over it. a lot of people might say 'but hey its the law.' well yes but sometimes laws are too strict or not strict enough. this one is too strict and the punishment doesn't fit the crime considering the amount of hypocrisy it holds. so someone could flush a dozen mice down the toilet no prob eh but 2 years if someone
has a dog fight???

I just love how the new tabloid-like and ratings driven media is more concerned with crucifying someone than reporting real news. it is amazing the amount of influence the media has nowadays with its over-analyzing everything and propaganda based agendas.

[mutumbo888]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

if you are pro-choice but are against what mike vick did, you are a hypocrite plain and simple.

[dave360]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

You hate what hes done to animals, yet you wouldn't think twice about doing that to him.....hummmmmmm

I wouldn't do it to him, but I wouldn't mind if someone else did. When I think about the last time those poor animals looked up at him or one of his cohorts with the trusting look that dogs and cats give their masters and the next thing that happened to them was getting drowned or getting electrocuted, it makes me really mad and I hope paypack in some form comes for Mr. Vick and all his thugs who helped out with the business. Is that wrong of me? Probably, but Michael Vick is the scum of the earth in my mind. It makes me feel really good that he's gonna be in the same place as rapists, murderers, terror suspects and others who have committed crimes because he's almost as bad as they are as far as I'm concerned.

Humans domesticated dogs and cats ages ago and made them a promise. We'd do no harm to them and we'd take care of them. Michael Vick and his band of thugs broke the same promise that has been made to domesticated animals for hundreds of years. It breaks my heart for those poor dogs and it breaks my heart even more that Pit Bulls didn't start out this way. Pits started out just like every other dog breed and have been bred to be fighters and mean. I have friends who have Pits that are among the most gentle animals I've ever seen.

I'll also add for the folks that have brought up chickens, cows, etc that if you do a little research about the brands you see in the supermarket, you'll notice that some chicken and beef and pork providers are bad, but some practice humane euthanasia on their chickens cows and pigs. When I eat meat (which I rarely do anymore), I always make sure to pick up the brands that practice humane euthanasia on their livestock and stay away from those providers who have been proven to be cruel to the livestock.

I'm sure that some of you think I'm crazy about animals, and you're right. I love my pets and would do most anything for them. My wife and I for the past 9 years have volunteered at the local shelters, went to spay-neuter clinics for feral cats and feral dogs, and I always keep two or three bags of extra food for any ferals that are outside my house. What's the reason I do it? Because of the promise that I made years ago to take care of them and to do them no harm. I just wish Michael Vick would have respected those two promises.

[wwharton]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

if these were chickens or mice or a fish no one would give a F U C K.

I just find this extremely hypocritical. seeing how abortion is legal, our society cares more about protecting a dog over a human?

this law needs to be changed, it is too harsh and I wouldn't be surprised if many people write their congressman over it. a lot of people might say 'but hey its the law.' well yes but sometimes laws are too strict or not strict enough. this one is too strict and the punishment doesn't fit the crime considering the amount of hypocrisy it holds. so someone could flush a dozen mice down the toilet no prob eh but 2 years if someone
has a dog fight???

I just love how the new tabloid-like and ratings driven media is more concerned with crucifying someone than reporting real news. it is amazing the amount of influence the media has nowadays with its over-analyzing everything and propaganda based agendas.

Abortion? That's not even apples and oranges that's apples and flat screen tvs. As for the law, every society has animals that are considered more worthy of protection than others and that's reflected in the law. Maybe it's a problem with the world but since we eat animals that one's pretty necessary. I think your rant is directed in the wrong place. If you look at what the average sentence is for a dog fighter, I'd see relatively speaking it's about right if not a little low. Vick's issues aren't as a participant but as the ring leader. I agree with what you're saying about the media and general public but I don't see anything wrong with the law enforcement here. Even if you think his sentence was too long (considering ALL the things he's in hot water for) it's only slight.

I wouldn't do it to him, but I wouldn't mind if someone else did. When I think about the last time those poor animals looked up at him or one of his cohorts with the trusting look that dogs and cats give their masters and the next thing that happened to them was getting drowned or getting electrocuted, it makes me really mad and I hope paypack in some form comes for Mr. Vick and all his thugs who helped out with the business. Is that wrong of me? Probably, but Michael Vick is the scum of the earth in my mind. It makes me feel really good that he's gonna be in the same place as rapists, murderers, terror suspects and others who have committed crimes because he's almost as bad as they are as far as I'm concerned.

Humans domesticated dogs and cats ages ago and made them a promise. We'd do no harm to them and we'd take care of them. Michael Vick and his band of thugs broke the same promise that has been made to domesticated animals for hundreds of years. It breaks my heart for those poor dogs and it breaks my heart even more that Pit Bulls didn't start out this way. Pits started out just like every other dog breed and have been bred to be fighters and mean. I have friends who have Pits that are among the most gentle animals I've ever seen.

I'll also add for the folks that have brought up chickens, cows, etc that if you do a little research about the brands you see in the supermarket, you'll notice that some chicken and beef and pork providers are bad, but some practice humane euthanasia on their chickens cows and pigs. When I eat meat (which I rarely do anymore), I always make sure to pick up the brands that practice humane euthanasia on their livestock and stay away from those providers who have been proven to be cruel to the livestock.

I'm sure that some of you think I'm crazy about animals, and you're right. I love my pets and would do most anything for them. My wife and I for the past 9 years have volunteered at the local shelters, went to spay-neuter clinics for feral cats and feral dogs, and I always keep two or three bags of extra food for any ferals that are outside my house. What's the reason I do it? Because of the promise that I made years ago to take care of them and to do them no harm. I just wish Michael Vick would have respected those two promises.

Dave, I respect your general opinion because you clearly do care about ALL animals passionately. But let me ask you, when you buy your chicken from those that have humane practices do you secretly wish the people making money off the other chicken in your grocery store get murdered? I'm willing to bet you don't. Maybe if one of them got caught and locked up you'd say "good, I'm glad they're cleaning that up" but I doubt you wish them bodily harm, let alone death. If you truly care about animals then I'm sure you don't think any animal should be punished to that extreme, including humans, right?

By the way, those dogs were chilling in front of the tv chewing on a toy before being marched out back and drowned. They were unstable and likely brain damaged, probably injured beyond recovery in many cases. As I said before, it's real messed up that any dog is bred to become a killer but once they are and have been through fights to the point where they can't anymore they have to be put down.

The picture you paint in your head of the truth is a bad one. There's no need to create unrealistic scenarios to make it worse... unless you're just trying to convince yourself that you're not a bad person for wishing someone dead.

[Chief Illinimac]

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I love people who justify breaking the law by saying the laws aren't just. That may be, but anyone who does something unnecessary, knowing it will bring consequences like 23 months in jail, well, they just aren't too bright to me, and I don't feel to bad for them. If they are truly intelligent beings, then I'm even more scared of what people are capable of.

Bottom line to anyone accusing the Mike Vick "accusers:" The guy broke the law. If you have a problem seeing him get a medium sentence for a crime he did commit, then 1) write to your Congressman, or 2) tell people to stop breaking the law. It's that simple. Nobody is out to get Mr. Vick. He is not a victim of racism. He simply broke a law, and must now face the consequences.

Dog's are "man's best friend" for a reason. People aren't going to look past someone murdering a dog. It sounds stupid, but I couldn't be any more serious about that. People don't have pet chickens, cows, etc... People don't eat dog (here in the US, for the most part, anyway). I've tried to avoid posting in this thread, but some responses have just become so laughable, I couldn't help it.

[Knight165]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

if these were chickens or mice or a fish no one would give a F U C K.

I just find this extremely hypocritical. seeing how abortion is legal, our society cares more about protecting a dog over a human?

this law needs to be changed, it is too harsh and I wouldn't be surprised if many people write their congressman over it. a lot of people might say 'but hey its the law.' well yes but sometimes laws are too strict or not strict enough. this one is too strict and the punishment doesn't fit the crime considering the amount of hypocrisy it holds. so someone could flush a dozen mice down the toilet no prob eh but 2 years if someone
has a dog fight???

I just love how the new tabloid-like and ratings driven media is more concerned with crucifying someone than reporting real news. it is amazing the amount of influence the media has nowadays with its over-analyzing everything and propaganda based agendas.

Actually, I would find someone who electrocuted.....whipped....drowned any animal to be disturbed.
There is NOTHING hypocritical about any of this. Torturing animals is not the same as slaughtering animals for food(oooh.....I used slaughtering)
Also if you think people are going to "write their congressman" to change the laws regarding animal torture to be lessened....you should lay off the sauce.
People in the U.S. spend BILLIONS of dollars on their pets......and yes....some people will take care of their pets before they will take care of another human being. GET OVER IT.
......and that's what I see happening in this thread....there are some guys who can't seem to get over the fact that people will probably take care of their pets over taking care of other people.......and to those who are willing to call others hypocrites......WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU DID SOMETHING SELFLESS FOR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING? Probably never, but at least not in a long time....so if you are saying that a human life is more valuable than an animals.....I say YOU are the hypocrite. People are quick to say...."we should be taking care of bigger problems" What are you doing to take care of the problems that face society? Practice what you preach or maybe you should just be a little less vocal about it.
I'll tell you what....I've said it time and time again....I(and the rest of the guys in my department) never judge who we are going in to try and rescue when the time comes.....and after reading some of the posts in this thread, and seeing how some people really are....I'm glad I don't have any inkling on what the person I might be dragging out, after getting my a$$ kicked and taking a few years off my life(with all the crap that burns in these houses/apartments nowadays) is like.
Pretty friggin' sad....

M.K.
Knight165

[skydog71]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Actually, I would find someone who electrocuted.....whipped....drowned any animal to be disturbed.
There is NOTHING hypocritical about any of this. Torturing animals is not the same as slaughtering animals for food(oooh.....I used slaughtering)

Have you ever seen an animal slaughtered for food? I doubt most Americans could stomach what happens inside a slaughterhouse. At a sausage factory, they electrocute the pig, slit its throat, let the heart pump all of the blood out of its body, and then send the corpse out on a conveyor belt, making way for the next pig to step up to the plate. It's horrible. I felt sick to my stomach when I saw it.

[Brandon13]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Actually, that is a crime here in New York State...if you wound an animal while hunting, you must track it and kill it as quickly as possible as long as you don't go into private, posted property.....as is baiting(putting down food piles) to try and shoot game. The fine for baiting can be as much as $5,000.00
...and I've read of people being charged with and fined for both of these two crimes just recently

M.K.
Knight165

That's a very good law then. They have the baiting law in Mississippi, which is where I hunt, but I'm almost positive that there isn't a wounded animal law.

[wwharton]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Actually, I would find someone who electrocuted.....whipped....drowned any animal to be disturbed.
There is NOTHING hypocritical about any of this. Torturing animals is not the same as slaughtering animals for food(oooh.....I used slaughtering)
Also if you think people are going to "write their congressman" to change the laws regarding animal torture to be lessened....you should lay off the sauce.
People in the U.S. spend BILLIONS of dollars on their pets......and yes....some people will take care of their pets before they will take care of another human being. GET OVER IT.
......and that's what I see happening in this thread....there are some guys who can't seem to get over the fact that people will probably take care of their pets over taking care of other people.......and to those who are willing to call others hypocrites......WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU DID SOMETHING SELFLESS FOR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING? Probably never, but at least not in a long time....so if you are saying that a human life is more valuable than an animals.....I say YOU are the hypocrite. People are quick to say...."we should be taking care of bigger problems" What are you doing to take care of the problems that face society? Practice what you preach or maybe you should just be a little less vocal about it.
I'll tell you what....I've said it time and time again....I(and the rest of the guys in my department) never judge who we are going in to try and rescue when the time comes.....and after reading some of the posts in this thread, and seeing how some people really are....I'm glad I don't have any inkling on what the person I might be dragging out, after getting my a$$ kicked and taking a few years off my life(with all the crap that burns in these houses/apartments nowadays) is like.
Pretty friggin' sad....

M.K.
Knight165

No you just judge a bunch of people on a message board that you know nothing about. The fact is people who think the laws are unjust SHOULD write their congressman. I'm not the one who has said we should take care of bigger problems, but I also would never assume that anyone who has said it or thought it isn't doing anything. I've called people hypocrites based completely on what I've read them type in this thread... like you're posts for example. In this post alone you've proclaimed people calling other hypocrites wrong and that they in fact are the hypocrites based on what they haven't done which you know nothing about. I commend you for putting your life at risk for the sake of others but that doesn't really give you the right to thumb your nose at what others may or may not be doing. Sorry.

[gabs485]

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Dude 2 years for Killing some stupid dogs? who cares about dogs or cats or animals at all? I set up a fight between a cat and a lobster, guess who lost? the cat so i beat the **** outta him. Animals are overrated. Vick is a human being why take away his life for a stupid dog. They are no even in danger of extinction...

Damn If aliens where watching us they would think Dogs are the master and we the slave, cuz we just keep cleaning everywhere they crap.

[Graphik]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Dude 2 years for Killing some stupid dogs? who cares about dogs or cats or animals at all? I set up a fight between a cat and a lobster, guess who lost? the cat so i beat the **** outta him. Animals are overrated. Vick is a human being why take away his life for a stupid dog. They are no even in danger of extinction...

Thank you Mr. Gabs for unconciously taking my place on the grill.

Good luck and god speed.