Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

[SpacemanSpiff]

Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

Lol, the level of intelligence and emotions that a human has elevates human lives above a dog's. Otherwise, are we gonna make an outrage over every little kid that has tortured ants using a magnifying class. The fact of life is not enough, we obviously hold dogs to a higher class than insects and humans above dogs.

[Cebby]

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Dogs are animals and people are animals. To elevate one animal over another isn't right. Sorry, but my dog is just like a brother to me. You screw with my dog and you're going down. If your mentality is that dogs are a lower class and every animal is beneath humans, then I'm sorry for you.

We do raise and eat other animals. Most of the time those farmers are raising their cattle and animals very humanely. Yes, sometimes they're not treated as good as possible, but most farmers care about their animals. You can't help but build a bond with the animals you take care of.

1. No matter how you try and explain it, if you eat meat you're a huge hypocrite.

2. Farm animals for the most part are not raised humanely, nor do the "farmers" give a remote **** about them. This isn't the 1940s; most farm animals are massed produced, stand in their **** all day, and eat corn.

[Graphik]

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The difference is the cruelty to animals. The things that his association did were dispicable. If you watch 2 boxers, they have a choice to be in the ring. If you watch two dogs, they do not. Above that, Vick and his cronies electrocuted, drowned, hung dogs that were losers.

Sorry if you can do that to a dog, you're the lowest class of human being. If you can know that's happening, you're just as bad.

Dogs are animals and people are animals. To elevate one animal over another isn't right. Sorry, but my dog is just like a brother to me. You screw with my dog and you're going down. If your mentality is that dogs are a lower class and every animal is beneath humans, then I'm sorry for you.

We do raise and eat other animals. Most of the time those farmers are raising their cattle and animals very humanely. Yes, sometimes they're not treated as good as possible, but most farmers care about their animals. You can't help but build a bond with the animals you take care of.

If Vick is so mentally ******** that he couldn't see what he did was wrong, fronting an entire operation as he did and having been at these executions, then he's a sorry sorry human being, a ******** one at that, and he deserves much more than a couple years. Put him away for life. I'm glad my dog is safe at home right now... it almost brings me to tears to think of Vick's crew torturing her. And anyone it doesn't sicken gives me less hope for humanity.

You dogs owners are a special breed. No pun intented. I would like to know what some of yalls feelings would be if this was a cat fighting ring instead? I'm serious, I really would like to know.

And dont get it wrong, I love my dog but its definitely not the same love I have for my daughter(M.K....its to late) or my moms.

And to heighten the amount of contraversy in my postings, I'm willing to bet that alot of dog owners, some in this thread would resue their most prized material possesion than recue the dog if your home caught on fire. I'm sure there are many people who wouldn't but I'm also sure there are some foul minded people who would.

[faster]

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Lol, the level of intelligence and emotions that a human has elevates human lives above a dog's. Otherwise, are we gonna make an outrage over every little kid that has tortured ants using a magnifying class. The fact of life is not enough, we obviously hold dogs to a higher class than insects and humans above dogs.

Who makes these rules? I clearly disagree. There are humans who are of absolutely no worth to this society as they simply sell drugs and fock all day and are in and out of jail constantly, beat their wifes, and are simply scum. Then there's a loving dog who looks up to your every move, loves you and protects you. Who's worth more? Sorry, it's the dog.

We're pretty tolerant of people who can't make anything of their lives, we give them welfare and make excuses for them and give more and more money. Are those people on a higher scale than dogs? Where does it end? Who are we to judge? In the end, someone who is cruel to a dog or a human, over and over, still holds the same level of disgrace as far as I'm concerned. That type of lack of feeling and caring is disgusting. Anybody who can torture anything, regardless of where it is on someone's "list" of class deserves the same punishment, regardless of what is tortued.

[Cebby]

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Pitbulls actually have nearly the LOWEST percentage of attacks of any breed of dog.

I'm calling shenanigans.

[SPTO]

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Let's bring levity to the room

Free Mike Vick T-Shirt

[wwharton]

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Watch it. Just because you disagree with his stance doesn't mean you have to resort to insults.

Please, Graphik's post was much worse, IMO. It was not personally insulting per se, but of extremely poor taste and had a much more disgusting taste to it. My post on the previous page was probably just as bad... this subject truly stirs up great emotion in people.

Thank you, psyblast. This has been my main problem with this and the other Vick thread. Vick should be murdered and anyone that doesn't agree deserves personal attacks too. Some people need a serious look in the mirror. It doesn't matter how much emotion is stirred up... that's basically making an excuse for treating another human with less respect than they deserve and because they won't agree that yet another human deserves to be railroaded.

I'll ask you the reverse, what elevates a human's live above a dog's? Ultimately we're all on this planet to survive, not to prove who the superior life form is. Just because another animal was not blessed with the same ability doesn't make it any less of an animal. I can use your same argument and try to put value on smart people over stupid people. Let's just have an IQ cutoff. If we make peopel under the IQ of 70 pets, and then raise them to fight and ultimately torture them, so what?

Think about what you're saying. Everyone on your "side" is creating a cut off. Dogs are better than cows b/c we don't eat them. They're better than deer b/c we have them as pets. We're on this PLANET to survive but if you don't bleed the norms of this country's society then you're screwed in the head? We can talk about some human practices where we treat various groups as if they are above others as well. It should be all or nothing. I don't see how one could argue for any one without the same rage that they would for another. Maybe some will admit that they can do that b/c they have relationships with their dog but how can they say that's right? Again, we have human problems that follow similar patterns (even more beyond the obvious) and that's why this lynch mob mentality is so disturbing.

[Graphik]

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Keep deflecting bro....whatever works for you.

Sorry Psy....I tried to get my point across without crossing the line....I'll retract and bow out.

M.K.
Knight165

Sorry bro, I would of definitely answered your question in a polite manner had the name calling not surfaced. Not dodging or "deflecting". Just preventing an infraction from ethier one of us. Now if you were to ask the question in a more gentle form, I'd answer.

[Cebby]

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I would like to know what some of yalls feelings would be if this was a cat fighting ring instead?

Go look in the Neighborhood board at dk's "I'm donating for Christmas" thread.

Somebody mentions singing the national anthem at a cockfighting ring, and the next 20 posts are "OMG PIX, that's so funny!"

[bkrich83]

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the fact that running an animal over leaves no percussions,

We don't get a drum set for running over an animal? Well I'll be.

[ZB9]

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I absolutely LOVE dogs. Im a huge dog person. I dont know of anyone that has loved the dogs theyve had more than i have.

but i know how to seperate a killer pitbull from other breeds (yes i am a dog racist). I dont have to worry about my Lab attacking a little kid in the neighborhood...and if he did, I wouldnt have to worry about him doing much damage.

Pitbulls, Rots, Chows, Canny Corsos, etc..that have been bred to be killers are not good for society. What Vick did was sick and atrocious imo, but the dogs that his "employees" eliminated were not normal dogs. Of course, the breeding of those poor dogs to be killers in the first place is extremely atrocious also and it should stop, but once they get to that point you cant exactly "rehabilitate" a dog.

[faster]

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You dogs owners are a special breed. No pun intented. I would like to know what some of yalls feelings would be if this was a cat fighting ring instead? I'm serious, I really would like to know.

And dont get it wrong, I love my dog but its definitely not the same love I have for my daughter(M.K....its to late) or my moms.

And to heighten the amount of contraversy in my postings, I'm willing to bet that alot of dog owners, some in this thread would resue their most prized material possesion than recue the dog if your home caught on fire. I'm sure there are many people who wouldn't but I'm also sure there are some foul minded people who would.

I simply put everyone on the same level. Humans have proven over and over to me that they have no better right to be here on this planet than anyone else. Humans are supposed to use their intellect differently. We're supposed to understand that torturing other animals is wrong, right? That makes us superior supposedly. Our higher intellect should leave us with that ability and elevate us among the beasts I would think. Too bad too many aren't higher than beasts.

Graphik, I understand that many see dogs and cats as disposable products, put forth on this earth to be subservient to mankind, and in some ways I certainly do agree with that. But I do believe that we are of a higher intellect and we should be able to see that these creatures can't abley fight back and the type of behavior that Vick and his cronies showed was sickening. Someone who can knowingly inflict pain on another creature... well, that person is no higher than an animal in many people's book.

[realtalktruth]

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Who makes these rules? I clearly disagree. There are humans who are of absolutely no worth to this society as they simply sell drugs and fock all day and are in and out of jail constantly, beat their wifes, and are simply scum. Then there's a loving dog who looks up to your every move, loves you and protects you. Who's worth more? Sorry, it's the dog.

We're pretty tolerant of people who can't make anything of their lives, we give them welfare and make excuses for them and give more and more money. Are those people on a higher scale than dogs? Where does it end? Who are we to judge? In the end, someone who is cruel to a dog or a human, over and over, still holds the same level of disgrace as far as I'm concerned. That type of lack of feeling and caring is disgusting. Anybody who can torture anything, regardless of where it is on someone's "list" of class deserves the same punishment, regardless of what is tortued.

did moo moo the cow ever sell drugs? did moo moo the cow ever commit any crimes? no, but moo moo tastes good so he gets sliced and diced and put on your plate.

[bkrich83]

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How is a humans life over a dog's or a dog's life over a deer even relevant to this conversation.

Nothing said here has made Vick's actions any less despicable, or any more acceptable.

Guy did some weak assed ****, got caught and is going to pay the price. End of story.

Hopefully he will learn from this experience and be a better person in the long run.

[faster]

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I absolutely LOVE dogs. Im a huge dog person. I dont know of anyone that has loved the dogs theyve had more than i have.

but i know how to seperate a killer pitbull from other breeds (yes i am a dog racist). I dont have to worry about my Lab attacking a little kid in the neighborhood...and if he did, I wouldnt have to worry about him doing much damage.

Pitbulls, Rots, German Shepards, Chows, Canny Corsos, etc..that have been bred to be killers are not good for society. What Vick did was sick and atrocious imo, but the dogs that his "employees" eliminated were not normal dogs. Of course, the breeding of those poor dogs to be killers in the first place is extremely atrocious also and it should stop, but once they get to that point you cant exactly "rehabilitate" a dog.

That's a very valid point. I don't know what you do with dogs you've trained to be killers. I'd hope there's a better path than doing what they did, however. Torturing isn't exactly a wonderful death. I couldn't put an animal through that personally.