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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #271
    Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

    Vick gets 2 years for dog fighting while somebody else gets 5 years for killing his wife? I guess killing your wife is not to far off from killing a dog. Seems like a fair justice system to me. If you don't believe me, read the story:


    Professor Rafael Robb Pleads Guilty to Voluntary Manslaughter in the Killing of His Wife


    In January, walking his dog before his arrest, the professor told me he was an innocent man. Looked me right in the eye and said, "No I did not. I did not kill her."

    Today, Rafael Robb told a judge something else. He admitted to bashing his wife Ellen repeatedly in the head and face with a chin-up bar, then staging a break-in and hiding the evidence so he could blame the whole thing on a burglar.

    Robb took the stand in the Montgomery County Courthouse in Norristown, Pa. this morning after striking a deal with the DA. He admits to killing his wife in a fit of rage and faces voluntary manslaughter instead of first degree murder, avoiding a long trial and a possible life sentence. Instead, he'll likely get in the range of 5 to 10 years, and could wind up serving even less.

    This was a particularly vicious attack. Ellen was bludgeoned so badly investigators initially thought she'd been blasted at close range with a shotgun or rifle. The DA was prepared to introduce testimony from experts suggesting this was an "enraged blitz attack" by someone who knew the victim and was trying to "wipe her face off the map." Robb knew about the experts and knew he faced a lengthy trial process and the potential of life behind bars. So, after almost a year of denials, he came clean.

    He admitted staging evidence of a break-in at the house and disposing of the weapon and bloody clothes in a dumpster in Chinatown. He says this was a spur of the moment event that he just "lost it" when he found out Ellen was taking their daughter to Massachusetts and the girl might miss some school.

    The prosecutor says there's more to it. The couple fought often, he says, and she'd signed a lease on an apartment and spoken to a divorce lawyer, telling the professor she'd be seeking a large alimony.

    Still, with a guilty plea comes some level of closure.

    Ellen's brothers and other family and friends filled the front row of the courtroom, holding hands and sobbing as the professor recounted his evil explosion.

    Afterward they choked up, remembering Ellen as an "angel on earth," speaking of the love she and Rafael shared for their daughter Olivia.

    "Both of them put her first, beyond anything else..." Ellen's brother Art remembered. "To the very tragic end."
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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    • bkrich83
      Has Been
      • Jul 2002
      • 71582

      #272
      Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

      Originally posted by vickhalloffame
      you people act like dogs are a part of the family but in reality they are just slaves. you ever hear about how spike got tired of being disciplined by the newspaper or some fat chick yelling in his ear that he was a bad dog until he finally smacked the left over hot dog pieces out of her mouth and moved on too a new family? didn't think so.
      This has to be part of some sort of sociology experiment. No way this is for real.
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      • Brandon13
        All Star
        • Oct 2005
        • 8915

        #273
        Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

        Originally posted by vickhalloffame
        you people act like dogs are a part of the family but in reality they are just slaves. you ever hear about how spike got tired of being disciplined by the newspaper or some fat chick yelling in his ear that he was a bad dog until he finally smacked the left over hot dog pieces out of her mouth and moved on too a new family? didn't think so.
        That was actually pretty funny, serious or not.

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        • bkrich83
          Has Been
          • Jul 2002
          • 71582

          #274
          Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

          Originally posted by Graphik
          I mean think about it. They took away a mans livelyhood, fame and fortune for some dogs!! A dog for crying out loud. Dogs in which he didn't even kill himself of all things. So what he ordered the dogs put to death. If I was teaching my kid how to hunt and ordered that he kill a deer, wouldn't that be the same thing? Its a freaking animal.
          And? So it's not his fault he's that he lost his livelihood. It falls on someone else? In the end he's got no one to blame but himself. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

          This is exactly the thinking that allows athletes like Vick to think the laws don't apply to them.
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          • bkrich83
            Has Been
            • Jul 2002
            • 71582

            #275
            Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

            Originally posted by Dice
            Vick gets 2 years for dog fighting while somebody else gets 5 years for killing his wife? I guess killing your wife is not to far off from killing a dog. Seems like a fair justice system to me. If you don't believe me, read the story:

            http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312963,00.html
            So should the guy have gotten more time for killing his wife, or should Vick have gotten less time for his actions?

            What is your point?
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            • realtalktruth
              Rookie
              • Sep 2007
              • 472

              #276
              Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

              instead of giving me one reason why i would believe that dogs are not slaves or an experiment(like when they say mom i want a pet i promise to take care of him and it will help me learn responsibility), you instead focus on me and claim i am an experiment.
              Originally posted by bkrich83
              Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.
              Originally posted by bkrich83
              It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.

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              • Double Eights
                Banned
                • Nov 2005
                • 5733

                #277
                Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                instead of giving me one reason why i would believe that dogs are not slaves or an experiment(like when they say mom i want a pet i promise to take care of him and it will help me learn responsibility), you instead focus on me and claim i am an experiment.
                So are children slaves too?

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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #278
                  Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                  Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                  instead of giving me one reason why i would believe that dogs are not slaves or an experiment(like when they say mom i want a pet i promise to take care of him and it will help me learn responsibility), you instead focus on me and claim i am an experiment.
                  I think it's because your post was so ridiculous, most people have a hard time believing someone would actually post that on purpose with a straight face. Maybe that's just me.

                  But keep finding creative ways to try to defend Vick in all this, after all, he's the victim, and is incarcerated due to no fault of his own.
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                  • realtalktruth
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 472

                    #279
                    Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                    yes. not as severe as dogs but in a way yes. your parent tend to believe that just because they gave you birth and took care of you that you should listen to what they say and do exactly what they tell you to do. everyone would agree on that case but the difference is, we can leave on our own free will, dogs cannot.
                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.
                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71582

                      #280
                      Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                      Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                      yes. not as severe as dogs but in a way yes. your parent tend to believe that just because they gave you birth and took care of you that you should listen to what they say and do exactly what they tell you to do. everyone would agree on that case but the difference is, we can leave on our own free will, dogs cannot.
                      May I ask, exactly how old are you? Just for my own curiosity.
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                      • Brandon13
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 8915

                        #281
                        Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                        Originally posted by bkrich83
                        I think it's because your post was so ridiculous, most people have a hard time believing someone would actually post that on purpose with a straight face. Maybe that's just me.

                        But keep finding creative ways to try to defend Vick in all this, after all, he's the victim, and is incarcerated due to no fault of his own.
                        Getting serious again for a second, it is also possible to say that Vick isn't a victim and at the same time state that there is some hypocrisy in this entire thing. That's pretty much the position I take.

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                        • realtalktruth
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 472

                          #282
                          Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                          19 years old. i know people get surprised at what i say but i tell it like it is.
                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.
                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.

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                          • bkrich83
                            Has Been
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71582

                            #283
                            Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                            Originally posted by Brandon13
                            Getting serious again for a second, it is also possible to say that Vick isn't a victim and at the same time state that there is some hypocrisy in this entire thing. That's pretty much the position I take.
                            I don't see the hypocrisy. Although that could be due to regional or cultural differences based on our backgrounds.

                            Last time I checked, we weren't killing dogs for food. Killing for sport and entertainment is completely different than killing for food.

                            Bear in mind, I am not a big fan of hunting or hunters, but I do recognize in certain cases the need for population control of certain species.


                            For me, this is a case of personal responsibility, and Vick has no one to blame but himself. Too much to lose to be this kind of stuff. Guy had every advantage in the world handed to him, because he was an athlete and pissed it away over dogfighting of all things.
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                            • mgoblue
                              Go Wings!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 25477

                              #284
                              Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                              It's only dogs...essentially what Vick and his buddies did is on the same level as them putting a cap in your family dog's head. It's only a dog, right? Why would you be sad? It's not a human. God forbid someone form some sort of attachment with an animal...

                              Eh, I'm done with this discussion, I'll agree to disagree...I just think this is way different than cows and other food because they were being FORCED to fight, and then tortured before dying via very inhumane ways (electrocution, other things). To say that's just the same as what butchers do is very uninformed.
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                              • bkrich83
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #285
                                Re: Mike Vick sentenced to two years in prison

                                Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                                but i tell it like it is.
                                I am sure you probably think that is true.
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