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You looking at the Chair MAN!
Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.Comment
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The point is characterizing most NFL owners as billionaires is inaccurate, but you chosen to mock that rather than contribute to the thread.Comment
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After meeting for 14 hours over 2 days (most of that yesterday, only a few hours today), mediation is over until Tuesday. PFT says both sides were given homework by the Magistrate Judge.Comment
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Hahaha, homework? Well I guess they have to do something in the offseason to stay busy. He might want to go ahead and assign them some summer reading.Comment
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Most billionaires and multi-millionaires have a cadre of financial consultants, lawyers,lobbyists, that know how to make money disappear legally too. I could own millions in Real Estate(like most NFL owners do) but show zero to very little income. If done properly these owners would never have to pay a dime in taxes on these properties......Why do you think they keep building new ones? Real Estate is a way to obtain massive wealth quickly.Comment
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From PFT - Mediation not expected to hit paydirt
Freeman reports, based on “brief telephone and text message interviews with people familiar with the talks” (at least Albert Breer will have company in jail), that neither side is serious about negotiating because each side believes it will win the first major legal skirmish regarding the question of whether the lockout will involuntarily be lifted.
The players presumably think they’ll win before Judge Nelson, and the owners presumably like their chances before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, where 13 of the 16 judges were appointed by Republican administrations, which in a loose red state/blue state sense will make them more inclined to side with the league over the players on the threshold legals issues relating to whether the courts can enjoin a lockout and whether the NFLPA* effectively decertified.Comment
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Apparently they just need to lock them in a room, Smith and Kessler for the NFLPA aren't even participating in mediations today.
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Mike Vrabel is an idiot.
...linebacker Mike Vrabel may have unwittingly given the NFL strong ammunition to support its argument that the decertification of the union wasn’t legitimate, and that the NFLPA* is still behaving as a union.
“We’re players here to represent players and De works for us,” Vrabel told Albert Breer of NFL Network. “They do [have a seat]. And if they’re unhappy with that seat, we have to vote in a new executive committee, and a new board of reps.”
Oops.
What Vrabel is saying is that the NFLPA* is still calling the shots, with De Smith and the executive committee and the player reps speaking on behalf the players. But once the union decertified, that all was supposed to end. The NFL players were supposed to become, as cornerback Antonio Cromartie wisely put it, a group of one-man unions.
Also mentioned in that article, some 'mid-tier' players may try and hire counsel of their own to participate in negotiations since it's believed that if class counsel Kessler got everything he wanted (wont happen) then draft would be gone, free agency would have no restrictions, etc.Comment
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Mediation has adjourned for a month... 5/12.
Reportedly due to the Magistrate Judge's schedule.
Next news we'll probably hear is a ruling and then the appeal of whether or not the lockout will be allowed by Judge Nelson. Vrabel's comments surely have to influence that...Comment
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Mike Vrabel
“We’re players here to represent players and De works for us,” Vrabel told Albert Breer of NFL Network. “They do [have a seat]. And if they’re unhappy with that seat, we have to vote in a new executive committee, and a new board of reps.”
That's definitely going to help the owners in court for sure.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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Yeah, I wonder if it will affect Judge Susan Nelson's decision on whether or not to grant an injunction and lifting the lockout. This decision is reportedly coming Monday, just 3 days before the draft.
I am not sure if there are any appeals that can be exhausted, but if the lockout is lifted then free agency begins I think the next day at midnight, allowing for players like Kolb to be shopped and traded on Draft day just 2 days later.
With mediation over for nearly a month, the next labor domino to fall should be a ruling from Judge Susan Nelson on the pending motion to lift the lockout.
Of course the irony is that lifting the lockout forces the NFL to violate anti-trust rules as they impose rules for 32 businesses to use when dealing with a non-union labor pool. So the players are just trying to force the NFL to resume business as usual so that they can sue them for doing exactly that.Comment
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