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[redsox4evur]

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Thoughts on this?

Katie Nolan is right...the NFL is hypocritical. Allows players to wear pink during October for breast cancer awareness, but won't allow one player to do it all year.

[SPTO]

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I hope Williams keeps his hair pink all year long because if the NFL fines him for it the backlash would be incredible. He should have the attitude of "I effing dare you do this!".

[redsox4evur]

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I hope Williams keeps his hair pink all year long because if the NFL fines him for it the backlash would be incredible. He should have the attitude of "I effing dare you do this!".

I was curious to see if he has been doing it all year already. And went back to watch highlights from the Pats game on Opening Night. And it did look like he had the pink on the lower half of his hair.

[Cyros]

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Thoughts on this?

Why do I feel like I read this before? I blame theraflu.

[mestevo]

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The NFL has some stupid regulations. This is just one of those.



It also shows everyone that "pinktober" is just a way the NFL found to look good. If they were really committed to breast cancer awareness, it shouldn't be an issue to allow a player to keep using pink throughout the season.



It's just one more publicity stunt by the NFL, and it shows...

They could let everyone wear whatever they want, devalue the apparel contracts and decrease player salaries. That's the other end of the extreme. The NFL's protection of it's image and bottom line directly benefits the players.

This silly flailing about pinktober happens every year.

Much like power rankings... we're talking about it, so mission accomplished.

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[kingkilla56]

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Just let him wear pink apparel if he wants. Dont play the "devalue the apparel contracts" card. Its their pink apparel he wants to wear.

[N51_rob]

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They could let everyone wear whatever they want, devalue the apparel contracts and decrease player salaries. That's the other end of the extreme. The NFL's protection if it's image and bottom line directly benefits the players.

Pretty sure Williams wears Pink Nike cleats so this part seems silly to even suggest even for you.

I agree with the rest tho. NFL was never gonna let this fly, the least they could do is not continue to escalate his fines and/or threaten suspension.

[p_rushing]

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The NFL does it for one reason and that is to make money. If the cared, they would allow the organizations to sell the pink NFL products, not just sell themselves and donate money.

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[LambertandHam]

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They could let everyone wear whatever they want, devalue the apparel contracts and decrease player salaries. That's the other end of the extreme. The NFL's protection of it's image and bottom line directly benefits the players.

This silly flailing about pinktober happens every year.

Much like power rankings... we're talking about it, so mission accomplished.

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Didn't the NFL get in trouble for only giving a small fraction of the proceeds to actual breast cancer orgs?

[mestevo]

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Didn't the NFL get in trouble for only giving a small fraction of the proceeds to actual breast cancer orgs?

Not sure they ever 'got in trouble' but there's always stuff like that, or people complaining about the charities involved.

For example... 'Only 8% of a sale goes to cancer research' from last year.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/pinkwashing-only-8-nfl-pink-breast-cancer-awareness-merchandise-sales-goes-towards-actual-cancer

ESPN’s Sport Business reporter, Darren Rovell, recently claimed the NFL’s breakdown went as follows: “On pink gear, the NFL says it takes a 25% royalty from the wholesale price (1/2 retail), donates 90% of royalty to American Cancer Society.” On an item costing $100, that’s $12.50 to the NFL, $11.25 of which goes to the ACS. The remaining money then gets distributed between the manufacturer (who takes 37.5 percent) and the retailer (who takes 50 percent). For products sold in the NFL Shop, the league acts as both the retailer and the royalty.

On top of that, the ACS only uses*71.2 percent*of the money donated to go toward cancer research. In the end, this means that for every $100 spent on pink merchandise, $8.01 is going toward actual research. The rest either finances administrative costs or, more often than not, ends up in somebody’s pocket.



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[jWILL253]

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They could let everyone wear whatever they want, devalue the apparel contracts and decrease player salaries. That's the other end of the extreme. The NFL's protection of it's image and bottom line directly benefits the players.

This silly flailing about pinktober happens every year.

Much like power rankings... we're talking about it, so mission accomplished.

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How come the NBA or other American leagues don't have this problem?

NBA got various logos floating on its courts, banners & player apparel and it doesn't seem to affect the league's relationship with their official partners. Yet, one player wants to wear a different colored set of cleats from AN APPROVED APPAREL PROVIDER, and the NFL wants to cry foul.

[mestevo]

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How come the NBA or other American leagues not have this problem?

NBA got various logos floating on its courts, banners & player apparel and it doesn't seem to affect the league'sre relationship with their official partners. Yet, one player wants to wear a different colored set of cleats from AN APPROVED APPAREL PROVIDER, and the NFL wants to cry foul.

I think they do this because it's a slippery slope. They'd then have to draw the line at certain causes or efforts, so instead they try and remain consistent all year.

[l3ulvl]

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Not sure they ever 'got in trouble' but there's always stuff like that, or people complaining about the charities involved.

For example... 'Only 8% of a sale goes to cancer research' from last year.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/pinkwashing-only-8-nfl-pink-breast-cancer-awareness-merchandise-sales-goes-towards-actual-cancer

ESPN’s Sport Business reporter, Darren Rovell, recently claimed the NFL’s breakdown went as follows: “On pink gear, the NFL says it takes a 25% royalty from the wholesale price (1/2 retail), donates 90% of royalty to American Cancer Society.” On an item costing $100, that’s $12.50 to the NFL, $11.25 of which goes to the ACS. The remaining money then gets distributed between the manufacturer (who takes 37.5 percent) and the retailer (who takes 50 percent). For products sold in the NFL Shop, the league acts as both the retailer and the royalty.

On top of that, the ACS only uses*71.2 percent*of the money donated to go toward cancer research. In the end, this means that for every $100 spent on pink merchandise, $8.01 is going toward actual research. The rest either finances administrative costs or, more often than not, ends up in somebody’s pocket.



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There's a Netflix documentary about this stuff called Pink Ribbons, inc, I don't know if the NFL is covered but it's supposedly eye opening. (I'm slow to get to it, planning to watch it this weekend or next).

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In regards to the local time keepers, I'm amazed this wasn't rectified after the Michigan MSU fiasco like 15 years ago. I thought there was a rule instituted after that game mandating an appointed official be in charge of time keeping. NFL didn't follow suit? (or maybe following Suit was exactly what they did)

[N51_rob]

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How come the NBA or other American leagues don't have this problem?

NBA got various logos floating on its courts, banners & player apparel and it doesn't seem to affect the league'sre relationship with their official partners. Yet, one player wants to wear a different colored set of cleats from AN APPROVED APPAREL PROVIDER, and the NFL wants to cry foul.

I think they do this because it's a slippery slope. They'd then have to draw the line at certain causes or efforts, so instead they try and remain consistent all year.

Yeah, the NFL has been consistant about this. Everytime a player has wanted to do it for a cause or event in recent memory they have said no.

Peyton Manning wanted to wear all black cleats to honor Johnny Unitas' passing; Nope.

Brandon Marshall wanted to wear green cleats to promote Mental Health Awareness; Nope

Williams wanting Pink to honor his mother; Nope.

I'm fine with the NFL's reasoning for not allowing this in any of these cases (even though I personally don't agree), but their reasoning is to prevent what almost happened with Marshawn Lynch. He almost wore those skittles cleats and the NFL knows that if they allow players to start to express themselves (even for good causes) it will only be a matter of time before companies that don't want to pay the NFL millions to be "The Official X of the NFL" can pay a player a few thousand and boom You've got DeSean Jackson wearing cleats with the Apple Logo on one side and "iPad" on the other, as he raises awareness for a lack of computers in schools in the poorest neighborhoods.

I think that the easiest solution would be for Williams to wear his cleats and the NFL agree to not continue to increase his fine from $10,500 for this season, or threaten to suspended him for continues uniform violation and all the money actually goes to breast cancer research.

[p_rushing]

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In regards to the local time keepers, I'm amazed this wasn't rectified after the Michigan MSU fiasco like 15 years ago. I thought there was a rule instituted after that game mandating an appointed official be in charge of time keeping. NFL didn't follow suit? (or maybe following Suit was exactly what they did)

The refs on the field are the official time keepers, just some local person runs the clock on the scoreboard. The refs can always correct the clock. So while the clock operator could run 1-2 seconds off, the refs can always correct it. They usually don't though when it is 1-2, if it is more they will in late game situations.

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