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  • ProfessaPackMan
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    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #37231
    NFL Off Topic

    His “fall” over the last few years has been wild to see in real time.

    Because it wasn’t that long ago when Seattle was holding him back and weren’t “letting him cook” and now he’s getting benched.

    Also going to be interesting to see how Payton does without coaching a HOF Qb since he had Brees while he was in NO and he covered up a lot of **** there.
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    • TheShizNo1
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      • Mar 2007
      • 26341

      #37232
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      Brees covered up a lot ****?

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      • ProfessaPackMan
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        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #37233
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by TheShizNo1
        Brees covered up a lot ****?

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        Covered up is the wrong word.

        Definitely made folks overlook certain things or not pay as much attention to.
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        • Jr.
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          • Feb 2003
          • 19171

          #37234
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Reports out that Wilson will be cut and has known about it for a while

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          • IlluminatusUIUC
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            • Jan 2010
            • 2667

            #37235
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            Originally posted by Jr.
            Reports out that Wilson will be cut and has known about it for a while

            If Payton didn't want to fix Russ, then why tf would he take the Denver job? Between his trade and the Russ trade/extension they hollowed out their assets so now he's got to swallow that massive extension.
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            • Jr.
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              • Feb 2003
              • 19171

              #37236
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC
              If Payton didn't want to fix Russ, then why tf would he take the Denver job? Between his trade and the Russ trade/extension they hollowed out their assets so now he's got to swallow that massive extension.
              I think he did want to, or thought he could, but realized he can't

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              • jeebs9
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                • Oct 2008
                • 47562

                #37237
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC
                If Payton didn't want to fix Russ, then why tf would he take the Denver job? Between his trade and the Russ trade/extension they hollowed out their assets so now he's got to swallow that massive extension.
                There the insane part of this ****. Why do all that?
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                • georgiafan
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11048

                  #37238
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  Yea it makes no sense for Payton to take the Denver job. When he could have just waited a year and had a better job.
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                  • slickdtc
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                    • Aug 2004
                    • 17125

                    #37239
                    NFL Off Topic

                    Seems he thought he could fix Wilson. Remember his coach last year was Hackett and Payton made some comments about coaching last year early on this season. I think he found out Wilson’s abilities are declining and he couldn’t do the same stuff that he was able to do with Brees (either before or after he started declining himself) because they’re totally different players besides their size. I read that Payton schemed out all middle of the field throws because Wilson is incapable of those. Seems crazy to cut out a massive chunk of your playbook.

                    They’re cutting bait now instead of waiting around for things to get better. They’ve probably seen the best they were going to get, which is sad to say.

                    QB’s fall off, and those who already had limited physical traits may hit that decline more rapidly. That seems to be what happened with Wilson. Man, he was a top QB only a couple years ago and it kind of all fell apart. Will be interesting looking back on Seattle’s teams and how much credit every part of that team will get.
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                    • kehlis
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                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #37240
                      NFL Off Topic

                      It’s mainly about his injury clause.

                      They asked him to defer it to after next season after they beat the Chiefs and told him he would be benched at some point if he didn’t. The NFLPA got involved and obviously it didn’t happen.

                      Once they lost their shot at the playoffs they made the move because they have no cap space next year so they need to see what they can get out of Stidham since they will obviously be moving on.

                      Basically we’re back to QB purgatory in Denver for awhile because of a terrible contract.

                      The Broncos have no one to blame but themselves. I’ve defended Paton for the last few years and even though I’m not sure it was his choice to make this contract for Russ it has them in a bad place nonetheless (EVEN if he was playing well).




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                      • Jr.
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19171

                        #37241
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        It’s mainly about his injury clause.

                        They asked him to defer it to after next season after they beat the Chiefs and told him he would be benched at some point if he didn’t. The NFLPA got involved and obviously it didn’t happen.

                        Once they lost their shot at the playoffs they made the move because they have no cap space next year so they need to see what they can get out of Stidham since they will obviously be moving on.

                        Basically we’re back to QB purgatory in Denver for awhile because of a terrible contract.

                        The Broncos have no one to blame but themselves. I’ve defended Paton for the last few years and even though I’m not sure it was his choice to make this contract for Russ it has them in a bad place nonetheless (EVEN if he was playing well).




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                        They talked about the contract decision on the radio here yesterday and essentially said the new ownership only asked if it would help their cap and okayed it based on what Paton told them. None of the owners had nfl experience of any kind, so they leaned on Paton fully for that decision

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                        • adriano
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 2808

                          #37242
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Wilson is done in Denver. I wonder what his market will be after this year.

                          One scenario I saw was a trade here Denver eats 16 million. Who would take
                          that knowing they are going to cut him.

                          Kinda crazy because he didn't fall off a cliff. He can still play.
                          Last edited by adriano; 12-28-2023, 06:11 PM.

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #37243
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                            Originally posted by adriano
                            Wilson is done in Denver. I wonder what his market will be after this year.

                            One scenario I saw was a trade here Denver eats 16 million. Who would take
                            that knowing they are going to cut him.

                            Kinda crazy because he didn't fall off a cliff. He can still play.

                            That’s not a realistic scenario at all.

                            They can’t make any trades before the league year begins which is also when they have to make the decisions to cut him.

                            If they still have him when the trade window opens they will have decided to more forward with him.


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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #37244
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by Jr.
                              They talked about the contract decision on the radio here yesterday and essentially said the new ownership only asked if it would help their cap and okayed it based on what Paton told them. None of the owners had nfl experience of any kind, so they leaned on Paton fully for that decision

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                              Thank you, kind of surprising to me. Doesn’t matter either way but out of curiosity was it the Fan or KOA?


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                              • Jr.
                                Playgirl Coverboy
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19171

                                #37245
                                Re: NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                Thank you, kind of surprising to me. Doesn’t matter either way but out of curiosity was it the Fan or KOA?


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