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  • gopher_guy
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    • Jul 2011
    • 7389

    #12301
    Re: NFL Off Topic

    Originally posted by kehlis
    Harris Poll results are far more reputable than anything ESPN could do.
    Yeah. 2,500 randomly selected people would be a pretty decent sample size to represent the country as a whole, fairly accurately.
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    • N51_rob
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      • Jul 2003
      • 14805

      #12302
      Re: NFL Off Topic

      Originally posted by CM Hooe
      So I know ESPN First Take is basically a tire fire on cable television, but I still want to share this image anyway (spoiler'd for size):

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      They couldn't even get a Nike Jersey for him. Isn't the NFL store like down the street from them?

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      • SteelersFreak
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        • May 2004
        • 9582

        #12303
        Re: NFL Off Topic

        Originally posted by Majingir
        lol, ESPN reporting is getting worse and worse. They have an article up talking about how the Broncos are now "Americas team" based on a poll some other site did. The problem.......just over half the people polled weren't even NFL fans, and the total people polled wasn't even 3,000 people.

        Not saying Broncos aren't popular, or even the most popular team in America, but just funny seeing something like that coming out of ESPN, claiming something like that,while using data from a survey that didn't even have 3,000 people(or even 2000 NFL fans).

        I wonder what the actual results would be if NFL or something ran a survey on their website and got millions of votes. What the exact order would be in terms of who's #1,2,3,4,5 and stuff.
        I just wish people would shut the **** up about who "America's team" is.
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        • kehlis
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          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #12304
          Re: NFL Off Topic

          Originally posted by gopher_guy
          Yeah. 2,500 randomly selected people would be a pretty decent sample size to represent the country as a whole, fairly accurately.
          Honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not because I wouldn't necessarily agree that 2500 people is a fair representation especially considering that half of them admitted to not even following the NFL.

          My only point is that a Harris Poll which generally is very good about selecting the demographics of it's sample size would give far better results than any poll ESPN can put out there.


          I think "America's Team" has always been a dumb term and would never agree with anyone who says the Broncos are it.

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          • dickey1331
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            • Sep 2009
            • 14285

            #12305
            Re: NFL Off Topic

            It's obvious who's America's Team. The Cowboys.
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            • kingkilla56
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              • Jun 2009
              • 19395

              #12306
              Re: NFL Off Topic

              Originally posted by dickey1331
              It's obvious who's America's Team. The Cowboys.
              If you lie to yourself enough times, you start to believe it I guess.
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              • gopher_guy
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                • Jul 2011
                • 7389

                #12307
                Re: NFL Off Topic

                Originally posted by kehlis
                Honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not because I wouldn't necessarily agree that 2500 people is a fair representation especially considering that half of them admitted to not even following the NFL.

                My only point is that a Harris Poll which generally is very good about selecting the demographics of it's sample size would give far better results than any poll ESPN can put out there.
                Not sarcasm at all. I'm pretty sure they use 1000 people sample sizes for all those political polls.

                2,500 (randomly selected) people would be above and beyond the acceptable number of people needed to represent the opinions of the USA's population.

                edit: just looked it up online, the minimum acceptable number for a population of 350,000,000 (ballparking), using a confidence level of 95%, with a margin of error of 3%, is 1068.
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                • Steven78
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                  • Apr 2013
                  • 7240

                  #12308
                  Re: NFL Off Topic

                  This was a Harris poll.

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                  • kehlis
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                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #12309
                    Re: NFL Off Topic

                    Originally posted by Steven78
                    This was a Harris poll.
                    Pretty sure we got that already.

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                    • mestevo
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19556

                      #12310
                      Re: NFL Off Topic

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                      Bengals LB Vontaze Burfict will be fined $25,000 for twisting Cam Newton's and Greg Olsen's ankles, per league source.

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                      • Twenty Four
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                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1197

                        #12311
                        Re: NFL Off Topic

                        Why does there have to be a new "Americas Team"? I mean it was just a nickname for Dallas, not some award. Otherwise I guess the Super Bowl Champs every year are Americas team. Besides that, I'd have to say Dallas even being rather irrelevant for 15 years is still one of the most popular,hated, and talked about.
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                        • SPTO
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #12312
                          Re: NFL Off Topic

                          Originally posted by Twenty Four
                          Why does there have to be a new "Americas Team"? I mean it was just a nickname for Dallas, not some award. Otherwise I guess the Super Bowl Champs every year are Americas team. Besides that, I'd have to say Dallas even being rather irrelevant for 15 years is still one of the most popular,hated, and talked about.
                          I don't think there has to be a new "America's Team" but it's one of those topics that's fun to bandy about when the Cowboys aren't exactly doing well. In a lot of ways i'm glad Art Rooney turned down NFL Films giving that moniker to Steelers fans because with how incredibly consistent that franchise has been through the years the fanbase could've grown a sense of entitlement that Cowboys fans seem to give off sometimes.
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                          • N51_rob
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                            #12313
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                            Originally posted by mestevo
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                            Bengals LB Vontaze Burfict will be fined $25,000 for twisting Cam Newton's and Greg Olsen's ankles, per league source.
                            I felt like he should've missed a game or two. You can't be out there trying to injure guys, then wondering why teams are vague on the injury report.

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                            • Fresh Tendrils
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 36131

                              #12314
                              Re: NFL Off Topic

                              Originally posted by N51_rob
                              I felt like he should've missed a game or two. You can't be out there trying to injure guys, then wondering why teams are vague on the injury report.

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                              • SlimKibbles
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                                • Apr 2004
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                                #12315
                                NFL Off Topic

                                Originally posted by N51_rob
                                I felt like he should've missed a game or two. You can't be out there trying to injure guys, then wondering why teams are vague on the injury report.

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                                I don't fully agree with that. I wouldn't like it if somebody on the Steelers was doing that to Bengals players with known lower leg injuries, but at the same time it wouldn't surprise me. It's football. Giving a little twist of the ankle isn't nearly as bad as what I've heard goes on at the bottom of a fumble pile. I don't condone what Burfict did at all but it's only known to the world because some players spoke up about it and social media got a hold of it. Guarantee you he's not the first player in the NFL this season to give the lower leg of an opponent with a known injury an extra twist. He's just an all-pro and was accused of playing dirty at ASU. Any other guy does it and we probably wouldn't hear much about it. Now it will not surprise me if this isn't the last time we hear it happening this year with a player.

                                Maybe Nugent missed that FG in OT because he slipped on wet turf caused by all of the Panthers crying over what Burfict did.

                                (I don't really mean that last sentence. Only kidding)
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