Washington Redskins Official Thread

[N51_rob]

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I now have a reason to care about this mini-camp.

On Sunday, third-round draft choice Kevin Barnes said fellow cornerback Fred Smoot was "getting a little bit older." Smoot, 30, responded to the rookie today. "They come in like that until they go to three days of [minicamp] and [then] they humble," Smoot said. "It don't bother me. I'm going to take him through some things. I haven't seen the guy. I don't even know his name and I love football so that tells you [something]. I know who's going to get drafted where. I didn't know the kid."

I like the fact that the kid has fired up SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT a little bit, but it's way to early to care about any of this. No guarnatee Barnes makes the 53 man roster. Justin Tryon spent the whole off-season practically living at Ashburn. We shall see.

[cjallure24]

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Bout time Something or someone fired Smoot up, to me he is getting past his prime. He continues to play 15 yards off the receiver, he gives up key third down passes, I hope Barnes does come in and challeges for the Nickel Spot.

As far as JC goes, I think he will have a goodyear, but I think we are in a lose lose situation. If he has a great year, he will most likey be a top free agent and he can go get paid some where else and get away from he terrible twosome of Vinny and Danny.....Unless Zorn finds a way to convience him to stay.

[emalloy3]

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They not resigning JC so this is his swan song season as a Redskin.

[Checmate101]

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Do you like them playing Orakpo at linebacker?..

Also so long Jansen, You was good for for about a decade. Also he went home and signed with the Lions

[N51_rob]

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End of an era.

James Trash...opps I mean Thrash was realeased by the team after failing a physical. Even more pressure on the "kids" to step up and become threats in the passing game.

[sb24]

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End of an era.

James Trash...opps I mean Thrash was realeased by the team after failing a physical. Even more pressure on the "kids" to step up and become threats in the passing game.

Any reason you say it like that? I never expected much from him so when ever i saw him do anything i was happy.

Anyway how do you all feel about Landry missing and giving Zorn a fake number. I think its an issue they couldnt get ahold of him but not the fact he missed.

[wwharton]

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What are the details? I knew Landry wasn't there but didn't hear about the fake number.

[sb24]

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What are the details? I knew Landry wasn't there but didn't hear about the fake number.

Hell i dont trust the fake number thing but it was on aol(i just lost the link ill work on it later.).

Thank God. LaRon Landry has returned to the Redskins' loving bosom. Search and rescue teams have been called off because Landry, who missed voluntary workouts last week and didn't return calls or texts from head coach Jim Zorn, showed up for work today. Disaster averted.

Last Thursday, Zorn told reporters that Landry's absence was "disappointing to his teammates as well" although "I fully expect him to be ready in training camp and go hard and have a great year."

Totally agree with that last bit, but I'm pretty sure Landry's teammates aren't losing sleep over him skipping organized team activities. You know, because unlike most of us who write about this stuff, the guys who actually play football for a living seem to understand that veteran starters familiar with the scheme aren't really missing much during the shorts and t-shirts portion of the summer schedule.

Take Chris Cooley, for example, who talked about Landry's absence on John Thompson's radio show earlier this week. Via the Sports Bog:

"Well, I think it means different things to different players," [Cooley] said. "And I know that sounds funny. But if I don't show up obviously it's gonna be in the media and it's gonna be discussed, but I'm not getting released from the team and I'm probably not putting my position in jeopardy at all. Obviously for the young guys and anyone drafted and anyone coming up trying to earn a spot, it's not voluntary. This is one of your only chances to show coaches what you can do, show coaches that you're a dependable person, and so young guys get a lot out of this work.

"A lot's been made out of LaRon Landry missing, and I don't think that's as big a deal [among] our players and in our locker room as it's been made in the media. We all know LaRon's in great shape, and we know two days into training camp that he'll come back and no one will remember that he missed. So I think a lot of the voluntary word depend on what your role actually is on the team."

So to recap: it's June, training camps are still six weeks off, and unless you're the Jets (OTA Super Bowl champs!), this time of year doesn't make or break the upcoming season.

That said, if the Redskins should happen to win the Super Bowl, we'll all look back on this Thursday in mid-June, knowingly nod our heads and quietly agree that Landry's decision to join his teammates was the difference. If only somebody had explained that to Dan Snyder a decade ago.

So it didnt seem like a big deal i just thought id bring it up. I know im not worried about it.

[wwharton]

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Yeah I don't think it's a big deal, but if he really did give his coach a fake number that could be a big red flag for things in the future.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 16, 2009 1:49 PM ET
The Redskins bolstered their defensive line depth Thursday, selecting Kentucky defensive end Jeremy Jarmon in the third round of the NFL's supplemental draft.

Washington, never known to hold on to future picks too tightly, will give up their 2010 third round pick for the right to select Jarmon.

Jarmon would have been a senior, but was suspended for testing positive for a banned substance. He has ideal pro size and could be a good run stopper.

Washington is thin at defensive end, so Jarmon could compete for significant snaps right away. Playing alongside Albert Haynesworth certainly won't hurt Jarmon's chances for making an immediate impact.

Jarmon is the first player selected in this year's supplemental draft and potentially could be the last. Deon Murphy from Kansas State looks like the next most likely to be taken.

[N51_rob]

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Sooooooooo.....We all know that I'm the biggest JC fan probably on this board. This year, I will not tolerate fake fans, and those with limited football knowledge bad mouthing our starting QB. That said. If he fails to deliver 20 TD passes with under 12 ints. I will consider this season a dissapointment. I know that this is his contract year, but that is largely tied to the development of the 2nd year WRs.

I do not want to see him leave and the skins start all over again at the QB position.

Since 1994 the last time they took a QB in the first round.
Heath Schuler
Gus Ferrote
John Friez
Trent Green
Jeff Hostetler
Brad Johnson
Jeff George
Tony Banks
Shane Matthews
Patrick Ramsey
Danny Wuerfell
Tim Hasselback
Mark Brunnell

Those were the QB's that started in the 10 years after the last QB was a first round pick. I'm not ready to see musical QB in Washington again.

[wwharton]

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Sooooooooo.....We all know that I'm the biggest JC fan probably on this board. This year. I will not tolerate fake fans, and those with limited football knowledge bad mouthing our starting QB. That said. If he fails to deliver 20 TD passes with under 12 ints. I will consider this season a dissapointment. I know that this is his contract year, but that is largely tied to the development of the 2nd year WRs.

I do not want to see him leave and the skins start all over again at the QB position.

Since 1994 the last time they took a QB in the first round.
Heath Schuler
Gus Ferrote
John Friez
Trent Green
Jeff Hostetler
Brad Johnson
Jeff George
Tony Banks
Shane Matthews
Patrick Ramsey
Danny Wuerfell
Tim Hasselback
Mark Brunnell

Those were the QB's that started in the 10 years after the last QB was a first round pick. I'm not ready to see musical QB in Washington again.

I'll give you a title since the skins are your #1 team but I've been behind JC from the start too... and I agree with your requirements for this to be a successful season for him.

[cjallure24]

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I think we all are afraid of seeing a new QB coming in because we believe that means we are starting over from scratch. Rightfully so because we have been through it so much as Rob posted above. I think that's the real reason why some people are wanting JC to succeed.

One the other hand does JC really want to be here in DC?....that's the million dollar question literally since this is a contract year. As much as we speculate and want to believe he wants to be here from what he said, I think we have to be logical and consider that there is something deeper then what we see on the surface with JC.

[emalloy3]

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I think the Redskins will only resgin him if he leads the the team to the playoffs or has a pro-bowl type season anything else I don't see him being resigned. I like you am tired off seeing musical QB and would love to see Jason be the One.

[N51_rob]

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I think we all are afraid of seeing a new QB coming in because we believe that means we are starting over from scratch. Rightfully so because we have been through it so much as Rob posted above. I think that's the real reason why some people are wanting JC to succeed.

One the other hand does JC really want to be here in DC?....that's the million dollar question literally since this is a contract year. As much as we speculate and want to believe he wants to be here from what he said, I think we have to be logical and consider that there is something deeper then what we see on the surface with JC.

You have to look at it this way. Since his Freshmen year of college, this will only be the second time that he comes into an off-season running the same offense that he ran the year before. That is huge for a young QB. Let's say he meets the 20 TD mark skins go 10-6 make the playoff (win or lose).

Here is what is gonna happen. 1) The skins will offer him the money he resigns, they will keep Zorn and the coaching staff. He will be able to go into a 3rd season in one offense which I think will speed his development into a top 10-12 passer. He won't come cheep and that will pretty much end all the talk of needing another QB.

2) They offer him the money and he passes. He will be learning another new offense. If he takes that route he will have to take less money and honestly the best place for him would be Seattle same offense he plays back-up for a season or two then it is his team. (Asuming they don't draft a QB of the future.)

3) He has a horrible season the skins let him walk. Being that he was a 1st round pick be labeled a bust more or less. He will still be looking for work but will probably have to take a back-up job and compete for a starting job with no guarantee.

Figuring it goes one of those ways, best case is he re-signs with the skins an Zorn and JC build the offense together with each other.