PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Screenshots & Some Details

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

Sorry for a double post, but I poke around on some Discord channels, and saw some people who are "in the know" taking about the fact that Harold Varner III might need to be pulled from 2K23 because his name leaked as a potential LIV defection...No Laying Up discovered Varner's name worked as a promo code for tickets to the next LIV event.

What was also interesting is that the people in the know also mentioned that Bubba Watson is (or was, perhaps) set to be in 2K23, and is now a confirmed LIV player.

So some potential LIV impact could be happening here soon, in terms of seeing what happens when golfers in a PGA Tour game leave for the other league.

[lowpaiddonkey10]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I would have bet they would have never put 3 click in their game. Holding the button down to initiate has to make it harder than the old way. I was more impressed than I thought I would be not enough to pre order since I don't need to play as a basketball legend.

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I think the part that's the most interesting is that if you want dual-gen entitlement to be able to play on PS4/Xbox One at first, and then potentially play the "next-gen" version on PS5 or Xbox Series X/S once you upgrade to one of those consoles, you are forced to buy at least the $99 version...dual entitlement only comes with the Deluxe Edition ($99) or the Tiger Woods Edition ($120).

I'm totally confused over the packages they're marketing for this game. My current plans are to buy the Standard, X/S Enhanced version, provided I can get some details about how the Series X version is enhanced. If it doesn't look like it's going to be all that distinguishable from the non Series X/S version, I'll settle for the bog standard XBox One version and safe myself some loot.

I'm curious, why do you say you are forced to buy the $99, Deluxe version if you had bought the standard version originally, if you upgraded to a Series X or PS5? It looks to me like if you went with the $69 Series X/S Enhanced version, or the $69 PS5 Cross-Gen Editions, you'd at least reap the benefits of whatever enhancements these $69 packages will offer.

The aspect of the game which most interests me at this point is the swing. I'd like for there to be something that feels different in terms of proportionality, tempo control, and timing. I think all of these are possible, especially if they take advantage of the Series X's advanced processing. So many developers are offering performance modes in Series X games, where you can take the resolution back a step to 1080p, and play at a frame rate of 120 FPS. I think playing PGA 2K23 at 120 FPS would be a great enhancement. If not that, I wish they would include an option to turn vsync off and let the Series X's VRR seek the optimum frame rate somewhere above 60 FPS, for displays that are VRR capable.

I've not been able to extract an answer to what the graphics options will look like for this game, let alone get any details on what would be a part of these enhanced or cross-gen versions benefits. However, if I find out there's been some substantial feel and performance changes in the swing, they might be able extort and additional $30 for me to play the game 3 days early... otherwise, I can wait.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I'm curious, why do you say you are forced to buy the $99, Deluxe version if you had bought the standard version originally, if you upgraded to a Series X or PS5? It looks to me like if you went with the $69 Series X/S Enhanced version, or the $69 PS5 Cross-Gen Editions, you'd at least reap the benefits of whatever enhancements these $69 packages will offer.

I don't think the $69 "standard" versions on PS5/Xbox Series S/X are cross-generation.

On the PGA 2K23 page, only the Deluxe Editions mention the inclusion of play across generations (in typical 2K/HB fashion, the deluxe version for PlayStation consoles says it includes the game for Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S, but I digress...).

None of the "standard" versions say anything about it. Amazon's listings are the same way...

Here is the deluxe version Amazon description for PS5:
"The Deluxe Edition includes the Standard Edition, plus the Michael Jordan Bonus Pack, Deluxe Bonus Pack, 3-Day Early Access, Golden Club Pack, and dual-gen entitlement."

Here is the PS5 standard edition:
"Hit the links with more swagger in PGA TOUR 2K23. Now featuring playable male and female pros, including Tiger Woods, new licensed courses, more control options, an authentic PGA TOUR MyCAREER, Course Designer, and new MyPLAYER Skills and Archetypes!"

I'm speaking specifically if you're a last-gen console user that wants to play the game on their current system, but might upgrade to "next gen" at like Christmas time or in the near future. If you're in this situation, you have to buy the Deluxe Version or the Tiger Woods Edition to get the dual-gen entitlement. Otherwise, you'd buy the $60 PS4 version, then need to buy the $69 PS5 version, for example, if you wanted the "next gen" game.

This is where I fall...I still play on PS4. I probably will get a PS5 at some point in the next year or two. So for me, the best bet would be to get at least the $99 version to have that dual-gen entitlement.

[golfnut67]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I don't think the $69 "standard" versions on PS5/Xbox Series S/X are cross-generation.

On the PGA 2K23 page, only the Deluxe Editions mention the inclusion of play across generations (in typical 2K/HB fashion, the deluxe version for PlayStation consoles says it includes the game for Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S, but I digress...).

None of the "standard" versions say anything about it. Amazon's listings are the same way...

Here is the deluxe version Amazon description for PS5:
"The Deluxe Edition includes the Standard Edition, plus the Michael Jordan Bonus Pack, Deluxe Bonus Pack, 3-Day Early Access, Golden Club Pack, and dual-gen entitlement."

Here is the PS5 standard edition:
"Hit the links with more swagger in PGA TOUR 2K23. Now featuring playable male and female pros, including Tiger Woods, new licensed courses, more control options, an authentic PGA TOUR MyCAREER, Course Designer, and new MyPLAYER Skills and Archetypes!"

I'm speaking specifically if you're a last-gen console user that wants to play the game on their current system, but might upgrade to "next gen" at like Christmas time or in the near future. If you're in this situation, you have to buy the Deluxe Version or the Tiger Woods Edition to get the dual-gen entitlement. Otherwise, you'd buy the $60 PS4 version, then need to buy the $69 PS5 version, for example, if you wanted the "next gen" game.

This is where I fall...I still play on PS4. I probably will get a PS5 at some point in the next year or two. So for me, the best bet would be to get at least the $99 version to have that dual-gen entitlement.

Glad you guys are bringing this up. I have a friend that I play this game with, and he's on a PS4. I've had a PS5 for 8 months. I told him about the new 2k23 game coming in October, sent him the gameplay vid so he would get as geeky about it as me, and then told him that the only problem is, he will have to buy a PS5 to be able to play our 1v1 matches online like we do.

He immediately told me to help him find a PS5, and to my astonishment, I found one at Sony Direct, literally the only one I could find on the half dozen or so usual sources. It was the Disc console, but was a bundle with a game called Horizon Forbidden West, which he (or I) will ever play, but it was only $50 above the normal $499 price for a Disc console.

My question is, did I screw up with him when I told him that we won't be able to play the new game if he's on PS4 with the new PS4 2k23, and I'm playing on PS5 with the standard PS5 version of 2k23?

In other words, are we all certain that the only way to play online on PS5 with PS4 players, is for the PS5 player to buy the PS4 version? I'm really hoping I didn't goad my buddy into spending almost $600 for no reason.

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

Glad you guys are bringing this up. I have a friend that I play this game with, and he's on a PS4. I've had a PS5 for 8 months. I told him about the new 2k23 game coming in October, sent him the gameplay vid so he would get as geeky about it as me, and then told him that the only problem is, he will have to buy a PS5 to be able to play our 1v1 matches online like we do.

He immediately told me to help him find a PS5, and to my astonishment, I found one at Sony Direct, literally the only one I could find on the half dozen or so usual sources. It was the Disc console, but was a bundle with a game called Horizon Forbidden West, which he (or I) will ever play, but it was only $50 above the normal $499 price for a Disc console.

My question is, did I screw up with him when I told him that we won't be able to play the new game if he's on PS4 with the new PS4 2k23, and I'm playing on PS5 with the standard PS5 version of 2k23?

In other words, are we all certain that the only way to play online on PS5 with PS4 players, is for the PS5 player to buy the PS4 version? I'm really hoping I didn't goad my buddy into spending almost $600 for no reason.

My understanding is that you can play cross generation, but not cross platform. So PS4 players can play against PS5 players.

"PGA TOUR 2K23 will feature cross generation play capabilities.
Cross generation play has been confirmed as a feature in the game. This includes PS4 players being able to play with PS5, and Xbox one with Xbox series consoles."

https://gamerability.com/pga-tour-2k23-everything-we-know-so-far/

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I don't think the $69 "standard" versions on PS5/Xbox Series S/X are cross-generation.

On the PGA 2K23 page, only the Deluxe Editions mention the inclusion of play across generations (in typical 2K/HB fashion, the deluxe version for PlayStation consoles says it includes the game for Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S, but I digress...).

None of the "standard" versions say anything about it. Amazon's listings are the same way...

Here is the deluxe version Amazon description for PS5:
"The Deluxe Edition includes the Standard Edition, plus the Michael Jordan Bonus Pack, Deluxe Bonus Pack, 3-Day Early Access, Golden Club Pack, and dual-gen entitlement."

Here is the PS5 standard edition:
"Hit the links with more swagger in PGA TOUR 2K23. Now featuring playable male and female pros, including Tiger Woods, new licensed courses, more control options, an authentic PGA TOUR MyCAREER, Course Designer, and new MyPLAYER Skills and Archetypes!"

I'm speaking specifically if you're a last-gen console user that wants to play the game on their current system, but might upgrade to "next gen" at like Christmas time or in the near future. If you're in this situation, you have to buy the Deluxe Version or the Tiger Woods Edition to get the dual-gen entitlement. Otherwise, you'd buy the $60 PS4 version, then need to buy the $69 PS5 version, for example, if you wanted the "next gen" game.

This is where I fall...I still play on PS4. I probably will get a PS5 at some point in the next year or two. So for me, the best bet would be to get at least the $99 version to have that dual-gen entitlement.

I still can't sort out what they're trying to say here. The catalog page on XBox Live's Store page for the $69.99 Series X/S version titles this edition: "PGA TOUR 2K23 Cross-Gen Edition Preorder". It also lists under "Player Modes" that it will feature "XBox Cross-Platform Multiplayer." In fact, even the $59.99 XBox One version of the game lists "XBox Cross-Platform Multiplayer" in its Player Modes list. I can't glean any of the above from reading 2K's product page, as it appears to be incomplete, at best. The XBox Live Store product page has about three times the amount of info found on 2K's page.

At this point, the only disadvantage I can see for buying the Standard ($59.00) XBox version now is that if you ever stepped up to a Series X or S console, you wouldn't have whatever advantages the Series X/S Enhanced ($69.99) offered. Based on what I'm gathering, I wonder if you were and XBox One owner, and wanted to buy the X/S Enhanced version in anticipation of buying a Series X or S in the future, would the "Enhanced" version run on your bog standard XBox One, only without the enhancements?

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I still can't sort out what they're trying to say here. The catalog page on XBox Live's Store page for the $69.99 Series X/S version titles this edition: "PGA TOUR 2K23 Cross-Gen Edition Preorder". It also lists under "Player Modes" that it will feature "XBox Cross-Platform Multiplayer." In fact, even the $59.99 XBox One version of the game lists "XBox Cross-Platform Multiplayer" in its Player Modes list. I can't glean any of the above from reading 2K's product page, as it appears to be incomplete, at best. The XBox Live Store product page has about three times the amount of info found on 2K's page.

At this point, the only disadvantage I can see for buying the Standard ($59.00) XBox version now is that if you ever stepped up to a Series X or S console, you wouldn't have whatever advantages the Series X/S Enhanced ($69.99) offered. Based on what I'm gathering, I wonder if you were and XBox One owner, and wanted to buy the X/S Enhanced version in anticipation of buying a Series X or S in the future, would the "Enhanced" version run on your bog standard XBox One, only without the enhancements?

Hmmm...this is all very interesting. I looked at the PlayStation Store and, sure enough, the $70 "Standard Cross-Gen Edition" there says it includes PGA TOUR 2K23 for PS4 & PS5.

But that is a digital version, just like the ones you're looking at on the Xbox Live Store...so I wonder if the physical "standard" version is not cross-generation, while the digital versions will be?

There is no mention anywhere of cross-gen play on any of the descriptions for disc copies of 2K23 standard edition, no matter if you look at the 2K Store, Amazon, or GameStop. I think, to me, this means that the digital versions of the standard $70 next-gen game, purchased thru PS or Xbox Live Stores, will be cross-generational. But any physical disc copies of the standard versions will not.

If you want a physical disc that will be cross-generational, it seems you have to buy the $99 Deluxe Edition.

Ugh, this is exhausting...haha

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

There is no mention anywhere of cross-gen play on any of the descriptions for disc copies of 2K23, no matter if you look at the 2K Store, Amazon, or GameStop. I think, to me, this means that the digital versions of the standard $70 game, purchased thru PS or Xbox Live Stores, will be cross-generational. But any physical disc versions will not.

WOW! This is a real head-scratcher!? Why would they handicap the physical versions to prevent cross-generational play? Are they just not proofreading what they're publishing, or is this really the case!?

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

WOW! This is a real head-scratcher!? Why would they handicap the physical versions to prevent cross-generational play? Are they just not proofreading what they're publishing, or is this really the case!?

The pessimist cynic in me thinks it's to capture more money from the physical disc crowd...you want a cross generational disc? Pay $99 for it. Orrrrr...you could just get the digital edition that's cross generational for only $70! :-)

IDK...maybe these are all mistakes, or copy is missing?

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

MAB, I just found this bit of info on 2K's PGA TOUR 2K23 forum in their initial: From the Newsroom post in an official thread:

Players who purchase the Standard Edition of the game for Xbox Series X|S (physical or digital version) or PlayStation 5 (digital version only) consoles which includes cross-generation dual entitlement will also receive the Golden Club Pack for the game on Xbox One or PlayStation 4, respectively*******.

Only the PS5 version is digital only when it comes to cross generational support? Why would that be??

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

MAB, I just found this bit of info on 2K's PGA TOUR 2K23 forum in their initial: From the Newsroom post in an official thread:

Players who purchase the Standard Edition of the game for Xbox Series X|S (physical or digital version) or PlayStation 5 (digital version only) consoles which includes cross-generation dual entitlement will also receive the Golden Club Pack for the game on Xbox One or PlayStation 4, respectively*******.

Only the PS5 version is digital only when it comes to cross generational support? Why would that be??

Weird!

So, this is saying that the standard physical version for Xbox Series X/S will be cross generational, but the standard physical version for PS5 won't - only the digital PS5 version will be?

Geez, this is really odd and way overcomplicated! I don't know why this would be the case...

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

So I guess your options for dual-gen entitlement are actually:

1) buy the $70 digital "Standard Cross-Gen Edition" from either Xbox Live or PSN
2) own an Xbox One and/or Xbox Series X/S and get the physical standard Xbox Series X/S version for $70
3) buy the $99 physical or digital Deluxe Edition for either system
4) buy the $120 digital Tiger Woods Edition for either system

[OnlookerDelay]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

Weird!

So, this is saying that the standard physical version for Xbox Series X/S will be cross generational, but the standard physical version for PS5 won't - only the digital PS5 version will be?

Geez, this is really odd and way overcomplicated! I don't know why this would be the case...

It's truly odd and beyond complicated. It's clearly not a proofreading oversite in this last post I found in the official forum, as they went out of their way to stipulate that it would Digital Only for the PS5. I'd love to hear the rationale behind it??

[MrArlingtonBeach]

Re: PGA Tour 2K23 Releases on October 14, Three Click Swing Option Added - Videos, Sc

I just saw your post on the 2K forums, OD, and I think there's some confusion between dual-gen (or cross-gen) entitlement and cross-gen online play.

Dual-gen entitlement means you can buy the game once and play the game on the last gen console (PS4 or Xbox One) and the "next gen" console (PS5 or Xbox Series X/S).

Cross-gen play means you can have the game on a last-gen console and play others on the next gen systems from that console family, or vice-versa.

From the sounds of it, all versions of 2K23 will allow players to play cross-gen users online on their console family of choice (i.e., PS4 users can play PS5 users, Xbox One users can play Xbox Series X/S users). I pulled this from the 2K Newsroom announcement of PGA 2K23:

"****Multiplayer modes can only be played with the same console or across generations within the same console family (Xbox One to Xbox Series X|S; PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5)"

However, dual gen entitlement is only included with the standard PS5 digital version, the standard Xbox Series X/S physical and digital versions, the physical or digital Deluxe Edition for either console family, or the digital-only Tiger Woods Edition for either console family.

Clear as mud, right!?!? :-)