iRacing after 2+ years

[canes21]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

Spoiler

<object bgcolor="#000000" data="http://www.twitch.tv/swflibs/TwitchPlayer.swf" height="378" id="clip_embed_player_flash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="620"><param name="movie" value="http://www.twitch.tv/swflibs/TwitchPlayer.swf" /><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always" /><param name="allowNetworking" value="all" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="flashvars" value="channel=zmul21&amp;auto_play=false&amp;star t_volume=25&amp;videoId=v9504658&amp;device_id=46d 9abb79e9112da" /></object><br /><a href="http://www.twitch.tv/zmul21" style="padding:2px 0px 4px; display:block; width: 320px; font-weight:normal; font-size:10px; text-decoration:underline;">Watch live video from zmul21 on Twitch</a>

If the embedding isn't working, here's the link.

http://www.twitch.tv/zmul21/v/9504658

Skip to the 20 minute mark even for the start of lap 50.

I feel like I squeezed him some, but at the same time I feel he did have enough room. Maybe it's my own bias of trying to justify myself and I don't realize it. I'll let you all be the judge and learn from it.

[EJQJ99]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

I've been doing the Class A Gen6 and Class C truck races. EDIT: Fixed races that is. I don't have much interest in the open class stuff.

The only way for us to all be a race together without hosting would probably to run something like the Sprint Car at 2am. Since we're all going to have different ratings, we'll end up in different splits if we try a regular iRacing series.

Paying for hosting isn't issue if we all wanted to race together, I have no problem paying for it. Just tough to get everyone together at the same time on the same night.

Having a hosted race with us OSers would be fun. My drawback would be my limited available vehicles and tracks I have. Something about supporting 5 children and a wife kinda inhibits my ability to buy content for iracing lol. I buy when I can.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[EJQJ99]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

We should see if we could possibly start an OS team


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Rules]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

The fixed setup is definitely loose after a few laps. That being said, running with a loose setup isn't a bad skill to learn on iRacing as it can be the fastest way around the track (not as fast as an on-point setup, but it sure beats a tight setup).

I don't know a whole lot about setups, but the first thing you're going to want to do with the fixed setup is to increase the tape and try to minimize ride heights so that the car is as low as it can be against the track without bottoming out. Of course, at Pocono this is really hard and you pretty much have to settle with bottoming out in turn 1 in order to try to seal off the car in turns 2 and 3.

This is a good chart, IMO. It's a little outdated, but when I make a setup I usually go by this as much as possible when trying to finetune it.

http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/downloadAttach/2243566.page

Here is my setup from the spring NiS race. This was from the last build, so it probably needs tweaks, but it might be better than the fixed setup. I've just done fixed this week, so I haven't messed with any setups.

Thanks, I will try these settings this evening.

[Rules]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

Your Pocono setup file is a compressed rar file? Stupid windows 10 doesn't recognize it. Even a downloaded rar program that uncompresses it comes out unreadable.

[superjames1992]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

Your Pocono setup file is a compressed rar file? Stupid windows 10 doesn't recognize it. Even a downloaded rar program that uncompresses it comes out unreadable.

Yes, it was. OS wouldn't upload the file uncompressed, unfortunately. Let me see if I can upload the uncompressed file to Dropbox.

EDIT: See if this works:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ha9u2h2eutaeyr0/Pocono%20S2%202015%20%28NiS%29%20R.sto?dl=0

[Rules]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

No came out the same. It's Windows 10 so I will get it figured out. Thx again!

[Rules]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

It says it's a STO file and that is why my Rar app can't unzip it correctly. Don't know if Windows 10 is causing the problem???

[superjames1992]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

It says it's a STO file and that is why my Rar app can't unzip it correctly. Don't know if Windows 10 is causing the problem???

.sto files are the normal iRacing setup files. I don't have Windows 10 yet, so that might be the issue. I am not sure if you can download any files off the forums, either, then. Hmm.

Anyways, I got greedy and ran the latest A Fixed race for some reason and got taken out on some stupid restart where a bunch of guys stayed out on old tires and then someone brake checked the field. Just SMH. I hadn't had an incident all week until that stupid crap. I guess that's why I usually race NiS (not that that is much better, to be frank...).

Most of the races I have ran lately have been of the late night variety when less cars join and there's only a caution or two. In this race, while I was either the first or second-fastest car, with 27 drivers entered (and non-splitting), it was just a mess with pit strategy and huge differential in speeds. People kept on staying out and stacking up the field and it was a mess. It was a miserable caution-filled race right from the start. Maybe I should stick to the 10:45 PM or later races if I continue to race some A Fixed. Those were generally pretty clean with only a couple cautions, at most. Of course, the semester is coming up again soon, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to run any A Fixed races, anyways. I can usually fit in an NiS race or two during the week, though.

I really should probably try to move towards doing open again, but it's difficult to come up with a setup when you don't know what you're doing half the time and it's impossible to compete with the setups the teams make, where they put in a ridiculous amount of man-hours each week that no one individual can match.

[EJQJ99]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

.sto files are the normal iRacing setup files. I don't have Windows 10 yet, so that might be the issue. I am not sure if you can download any files off the forums, either, then. Hmm.

Anyways, I got greedy and ran the latest A Fixed race for some reason and got taken out on some stupid restart where a bunch of guys stayed out on old tires and then someone brake checked the field. Just SMH. I hadn't had an incident all week until that stupid crap. I guess that's why I usually race NiS (not that that is much better, to be frank...).

Most of the races I have ran lately have been of the late night variety when less cars join and there's only a caution or two. In this race, while I was either the first or second-fastest car, with 27 drivers entered (and non-splitting), it was just a mess with pit strategy and huge differential in speeds. People kept on staying out and stacking up the field and it was a mess. It was a miserable caution-filled race right from the start. Maybe I should stick to the 10:45 PM or later races if I continue to race some A Fixed. Those were generally pretty clean with only a couple cautions, at most. Of course, the semester is coming up again soon, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to run any A Fixed races, anyways. I can usually fit in an NiS race or two during the week, though.

I really should probably try to move towards doing open again, but it's difficult to come up with a setup when you don't know what you're doing half the time and it's impossible to compete with the setups the teams make, where they put in a ridiculous amount of man-hours each week that no one individual can match.

I hear you on that. Currently sitting in the pits for repairs on the open pocono truck race. I got down to 56.9 but the head of the pack in in the upper 55's lower 56's. It is kinda depressing when you really don't know how to set up. Trying to learn by reading charts lol. Freaking tunnel turn always gets me.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Redacted01]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

So on second thought, Michigan isn't as easy as I thought it'd be. Decided to run some test laps in the cup car and it's way, way too easy to lose it out of 2 and 4, either up into the wall or down into the grass/pit road.

[superjames1992]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

I hear you on that. Currently sitting in the pits for repairs on the open pocono truck race. I got down to 56.9 but the head of the pack in in the upper 55's lower 56's. It is kinda depressing when you really don't know how to set up. Trying to learn by reading charts lol. Freaking tunnel turn always gets me.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have some ideas about setting up cars, but they aren't very good. Sealing the car off and raising the tape as much as you can get by with (to increase downforce) are good starts, but when it comes to tweaking after that, I'm usually just throwing crap out there and hoping it sticks.

So on second thought, Michigan isn't as easy as I thought it'd be. Decided to run some test laps in the cup car and it's way, way too easy to lose it out of 2 and 4, either up into the wall or down into the grass/pit road.

Haha, I remember when I was new and decided to run Michigan as my first race in the Gen 6 in the NASCAR iRacing Series (which is/was C class and above). I took it out for a spin and was just a disaster in my first practice session. Very loose (of course, it had more HP then so it might have been even worse). I was able to get it under control eventually and came through with an incident-free race in the race itself, but it was tough and I was slow!

Anyways, I just did a few laps of practice with the Gen 6 at Watkins Glen. Best lap is a 1:11.7 with an optimal of 1:11.4 with the fixed setup. I like Watkins Glen; I'd say it's my favorite road track. It's not very technical, but it's fun to me for some reason (more fun with the boot, probably, but it is what it is).

No doubt there's guys in the 1:10s, though. Road racing generally isn't my specialty. It is possible that my FOV modifications recently have helped, though, so we'll see.

The key to these races is not to wreck, though. Speed is of secondary importance to keeping the car out of the wall.

[Chaos81]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

it's impossible to compete with the setups the teams make, where they put in a ridiculous amount of man-hours each week that no one individual can match.

Yeah, I saw a post awhile back (you probably saw it too) where one of the fast guys was talking about how his team puts in about 80 man-hours a week on a setup. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, I know the DWC guys put in a ton of time, but that's just insane to me. Even if you had 8 guys all testing setups, that's still 10 hours a person on setup work alone each week. Just insane.

It is kinda depressing when you really don't know how to set up.

That's why I've been running fixed. I'm decent enough at taking a road setup and adjusting it to my tastes, but I have no clue what I'm doing when it comes to ovals other than a few adjustments here and there.

[superjames1992]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

Yeah, I saw a post awhile back (you probably saw it too) where one of the fast guys was talking about how his team puts in about 80 man-hours a week on a setup. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, I know the DWC guys put in a ton of time, but that's just insane to me. Even if you had 8 guys all testing setups, that's still 10 hours a person on setup work alone each week. Just insane.


That's why I've been running fixed. I'm decent enough at taking a road setup and adjusting it to my tastes, but I have no clue what I'm doing when it comes to ovals other than a few adjustments here and there.

Yeah, and on road setups are generally less important for most cars, anyways. I mean, they might give you a few tenths on your opponents, but the fastest drivers are generally 1+ seconds faster than much of the pack, so a lot of the edge is in driver skill and a good driver with even an average setup can still do well.

In contrast, on the oval side where tenths of a second separate the back of the pack from the front, setups are very important.

I do generally find the open setup races to be more clean, though (the cars are usually more spread out, for one thing). I actually ran the open setup NiS race at Pocono last time around and had really good speed and came in 6th in the top split, but the top two just blew away the rest of the field and won by 20+ seconds. I think I finished 35 seconds behind the leaders despite finishing 6th. Still, if I can put together some more setups like that, I might think about doing more open races. I had a pretty good setup I worked on for Charlotte and ran in the top 5-10 most of the NiS race until I decided to hit the wall on the backstretch (not even in the corner... it was embarrassing), when I all but wrecked and took someone out with 3 to go. Not one of my proudest moments. I had someone on my inside and I just drifted into the wall, where some iRacing physics happened and sent my car out of control and towards the inside of the track.

[Redacted01]

Re: iRacing after 2+ years

I won't be running road courses for a long while, but Watkins Glen was always my favorite in NASCAR games. Fairly easy to drive, a few good passing opportunities, and nowhere near as many difficult turns as Sonoma.