Xbox One

[VTPack919]

Re: Xbox One

I'll be getting The Bone day one edition. (insert joke here)

I'll get both systems because that's what I do, early adopter electronics consumer whore. I'm part of the problem.

Is the day one edition any different than a regular edition?

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Xbox One

Is the day one edition any different than a regular edition?

Fancy decal on the controller. And maybe an achievement.

[SoMiss2000]

Re: Xbox One

DRM on 3rd party games is exactly what Sony has now lol.

[bigfnjoe96]

My understanding (and I could be wrong) is that DRM "on-disc" is entirely managed by the console manufacturer (in your example, Sony).

That publisher could say, even for this single player game, you have to "log in to our online pass first", essentially disabling the folks that have their PS4 off the network. But that exists today in 360 and PS3 land. The point is, Microsoft requires you to phone home, PS4 disc DRM does not.

One thing that maybe someone else might've caught, can you play the PS4 games entirely off the hard drive? Or does it still need to be in to play?

The only time it's on the console maker is when they run & host the servers.

In many cases with PS they don't host servers, the publisher does IE:

EA, UBI, Activision



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[MizzouBravesFan]

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I really wish we'd stop with this "pure gaming console" fallacy too...

No matter what MS or Sony or anyone else says both of these consoles are the same and do the same things...

Now where MS dropped the ball big time is in the fact that I believe they truly thought consumers were ready to latch on and embrace this entire "all in one entertainment hub" idea instead of the old "video game console" adage and it blew up in their faces...

Look I love games and gaming to death but I'm not naive either...I understand that consoles nowadays are an I'm cool with it, I happen to like a lot of the integrations on the entertainment side...

I just can't wrap my head around the PS4 being more of a "gamer's console" than the XBO just as much a the same with the 360 and PS3. I guess it's all in how it's worded and what people want to believe...

[RJTurneR]

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I just can't wrap my head around the PS4 being more of a "gamer's console" than the XBO just as much a the same with the 360 and PS3. I guess it's all in how it's worded and what people want to believe...

It's all about which console has what games, and how many more features that console has for gamers.

If one console has a whole boat load of games which the 'old-school' gamers love, and the other has a bunch of titles which are less focused, it's the first console that becomes the 'Gamers choice'. As well, if one console had in-built recording and streaming, that would be huge.

It's just the way the so called 'console war' has developed. It's no longer about enjoying the game for what it is but comparing yourself against others.. your apparent 'skill' level in games, and then picking out every feature of the console you purchased to make yourself and your side seem supreme. It is ridiculous.

This DRM thing, it's unfortunate. But at the end of the day, just enjoy the game you bought. But people will still continue to boast how much bigger their stick is.

Welcome to modern age gaming.

[kingkilla56]

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It's all about which console has what games, and how many more features that console has for gamers.

If one console has a whole boat load of games which the 'old-school' gamers love, and the other has a bunch of titles which are less focused, it's the first console that becomes the 'Gamers choice'. As well, if one console had in-built recording and streaming, that would be huge.

It's just the way the so called 'console war' has developed. It's no longer about enjoying the game for what it is but comparing yourself against others.. your apparent 'skill' level in games, and then picking out every feature of the console you purchased to make yourself and your side seem supreme. It is ridiculous.

This DRM thing, it's unfortunate. But at the end of the day, just enjoy the game you bought. But people will still continue to boast how much bigger their stick is.

Welcome to modern age gaming.

[aholbert32]

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Also Microsoft has left it Optional also. It states it clearly in the Policy & Privacy Statement they released last week

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Its not optional with their first party games.

[MrSerendipity]

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It's all about which console has what games, and how many more features that console has for gamers.

If one console has a whole boat load of games which the 'old-school' gamers love, and the other has a bunch of titles which are less focused, it's the first console that becomes the 'Gamers choice'. As well, if one console had in-built recording and streaming, that would be huge.

It's just the way the so called 'console war' has developed. It's no longer about enjoying the game for what it is but comparing yourself against others.. your apparent 'skill' level in games, and then picking out every feature of the console you purchased to make yourself and your side seem supreme. It is ridiculous.

This DRM thing, it's unfortunate. But at the end of the day, just enjoy the game you bought. But people will still continue to boast how much bigger their stick is.

Welcome to modern age gaming.

Which is actually something I don't understand. Why does it even matter to people? Playstation has been the system I've used since the very first Playstation came about. But with that said, there are things that the XBOX and 360 simply did better. You can love your system and still understand why people would be drawn to the other system. At the end of the day, we're just playing video games.

[aholbert32]

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DRM on 3rd party games is exactly what Sony has now lol.

Thats not true but I guess thats easier to say then actually read and discover the differences.

[aholbert32]

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I really wish we'd stop with this "pure gaming console" fallacy too...

No matter what MS or Sony or anyone else says both of these consoles are the same and do the same things...

Now where MS dropped the ball big time is in the fact that I believe they truly thought consumers were ready to latch on and embrace this entire "all in one entertainment hub" idea instead of the old "video game console" adage and it blew up in their faces...

Look I love games and gaming to death but I'm not naive either...I understand that consoles nowadays are an I'm cool with it, I happen to like a lot of the integrations on the entertainment side...

I just can't wrap my head around the PS4 being more of a "gamer's console" than the XBO just as much a the same with the 360 and PS3. I guess it's all in how it's worded and what people want to believe...

Im a gamer.

I like to buy new games.

I like to trade in those games to any retailer and buy new games with that money.

I like to rent games.

I like to buy used games.

I like to play my console even if my internet is not working.

With one console I can only do one of those things. With another I can do all of them. Thats how one is more gamer friendly and how another isnt.

[bigfnjoe96]

Its not optional with their first party games.

I can't quote the bottom of the page but it says Microsoft will enable gamers to share their games & trade their games

3rd party Devs can opt in or out

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

This to me sounds like MS published games will not have DRM but it's up to 3rd party devs

Not to mention they will continue to look @ these policies & may change them @ anytime



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[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: Xbox One

I can't quote the bottom of the page but it says Microsoft will enable gamers to share their games & trade their games

3rd party Devs can opt in or out

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

This to me sounds like MS published games will not have DRM but it's up to 3rd party devs



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Seriously... do NOT hold your breath.

[aholbert32]

Re: Xbox One

I can't quote the bottom of the page but it says Microsoft will enable gamers to share their games & trade their games

3rd party Devs can opt in or out

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

This to me sounds like MS published games will not have DRM but it's up to 3rd party devs

Not to mention they will continue to look @ these policies & may change them @ anytime



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"participating retailers" is troubling. Could be normal retail language or could be restrictions regarding where and how I can trade in games.

[bigfnjoe96]

"participating retailers" is troubling. Could be normal retail language or could be restrictions regarding where and how I can trade in games.

This is true. Right now we know GS is in, but what happens to my buddy on the corner who's business thrives on trades

This I'm hoping MS comes up with a system that helps all stores & not just the big box stores

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