Xbox One

[Boltman]

Re: Xbox One

Now with that said, I have a honest question for the X1 supporters. Do you feel as if the X1 will be able to beat the PS4 in sales numbers?

I have no idea either way and I honestly don't care if they do or not.

If you were to follow that with telling me I should care because it dictates the potential future of the XBone then I'd say if it goes by way of the Dodo down the road, so be it.

I'll own both systems and will prefer to play on the XBone, but if something dramatic happens and the XBone was no longer a viable console to play on then I'll just move on to whatever else is current/modern & available (PS4).

But the XBOX ONE will by my primary choice and I'll buy games for that console first. We'll see what transpires down the road but either way I'm not worried about it.

[NaturalSelected]

Just want to re-introduce the point that nearly every aspect of what we believe the MS policies are can be controlled in software. I fully expect some things to change before launch.

We can be upset/disappointed (and probably should be) right now on the current info, but MS won't want to lose before day one. So don't assume a policy is locked in right now...everything is an ongoing negotiation with partners.

[Cusefan]

I wanted to get a X1 as I really like the 360 but since I am in a hotel at least 1 week a month, I won't have high speed Internet. The always online requirement is forcing me to get a PS4. There are quite a few of us hotel Gamers and Microsoft is sticking it to us.

[bigfnjoe96]

I'll be honest I have been staying out the X1 debates since it does not pertain to me anymore. I'm fully committed to the PS4 vision of continuing to stay with the tried and true method that gaming has survived on for 20 years.

Now with that said, I have a honest question for the X1 supporters. Do you feel as if the X1 will be able to beat the PS4 in sales numbers?

Reason I ask this is two fold. One, I rather game on the console that has the larger user base so I know online games will continue to have plenty of people online playing. Second, if it does end up losing by a large margin in total sales how does that affect the vision X1 is after when it comes to the future of gaming(online required, used games, DRM, camera monitored, etc)?

Phobia, I do believe Sony will probably out sell MS this time around.

I think what will keep MS going is the games they have to offer & XBL. This ability for people to access their games from the Cloud honestly for me is Huge.

People kill MS for throwing the phrase "The Cloud" out there when talking XB-1.

MS Azure program is a huge deal for them. For them to put all their eggs in 1 basket around how all their devices interact with Azure shows how dedicated they are too that program.

As I've mentioned before MS is going thru a restructuring and the Azure Program is a big part of that.

Counting on Cloud Tech & Full Digital is a big gamble for them. Personally I think they have what it takes

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[DocHolliday]

Re: Xbox One

How can you say that. Moms, Dads don't pay $500 because a machine can do voice commands and hand gestures to change the television channel. And Lite gamers likely don't play online or purchase XBOX Live so why would they pay $500 for a brick when they can pay $400 for a more powerful machine with no internet cost and able to rent/trade games freely?

Microsoft can hit hard with marketing blitz but it's lost on people who don't care or will even consider the machine all things considered right now. All that's left is the gamer crowd that they NEED to please.

I am kinda thinking that they already have a 360, so they just get the One because it is the "Next Xbox". $100 to alot of people, is nothing, and will not detract them. They will want the familiarity...

[aholbert32]

Re: Xbox One

Just want to re-introduce the point that nearly every aspect of what we believe the MS policies are can be controlled in software. I fully expect some things to change before launch.

We can be upset/disappointed (and probably should be) right now on the current info, but MS won't want to lose before day one. So don't assume a policy is locked in right now...everything is an ongoing negotiation with partners.

The problem is the policies are only the cause or potentially losing day one with gamers. Gamers care about used games, DRM and are the type to pay attention to things like E3.

Most non-hardcore gamers just care about the price at this point and that aint changing.

[aholbert32]

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I am kinda thinking that they already have a 360, so they just get the One because it is the "Next Xbox". $100 to alot of people, is nothing, and will not detract them. They will want the familiarity...

That didnt work for the ps3. Millions of people had a ps2, saw the launch price of the ps3 and turned to the 360.

[NaturalSelected]

That didnt work for the ps3. Millions of people had a ps2, saw the launch price of the ps3 and turned to the 360.

It's a good point. I think this is what MS is betting on. I might stick with them, but its about the millions, not just me.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Xbox One

Now with that said, I have a honest question for the X1 supporters. Do you feel as if the X1 will be able to beat the PS4 in sales numbers?

Reason I ask this is two fold. One, I rather game on the console that has the larger user base so I know online games will continue to have plenty of people online playing. Second, if it does end up losing by a large margin in total sales how does that affect the vision X1 is after when it comes to the future of gaming(online required, used games, DRM, camera monitored, etc)?

Since I have a sickness and will more than liklely have both on day 1...

I really don't care at all about how many other have the system I get UNLESS the numbers are so paltry that it's an issue for the long haul.
Having a huge online user base is pointless if the online experience is less than stellar. Hopefully Sony has taken steps in that regard.

[zanner]

Re: Xbox One

I am kinda thinking that they already have a 360, so they just get the One because it is the "Next Xbox". $100 to alot of people, is nothing, and will not detract them. They will want the familiarity...

$100 is nothing to a lot of people? Wow.

$100 is a nice amount of change to people who aren't fully committed to gaming especially when there's as or more powerful alternative with less restrictions or requirements.

Those that are not gamers... $100 is even a bigger amount, actually in that case it's $500 for the non gamer. That's reality of the situation.

[CMH]

Who are the buyers?

I keep seeing people say moms and dads but isn't the average age of gamers over thirty?

So wouldn't the buyers be adults for their own enjoyment? I guess I'm trying to understand the argument here.


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[DocHolliday]

Re: Xbox One

Who are the buyers?

I keep seeing people say moms and dads but isn't the average age of gamers over thirty?

So wouldn't the buyers be adults for their own enjoyment? I guess I'm trying to understand the argument here.


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I guess all I am saying is that there are alot of people who buy consoles that never get online and get into discussions like this. They just buy a console.

[aholbert32]

Re: Xbox One

Who are the buyers?

I keep seeing people say moms and dads but isn't the average age of gamers over thirty?

So wouldn't the buyers be adults for their own enjoyment? I guess I'm trying to understand the argument here.


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The average is over 30 but a huge chunk are parents purchasing for themselves AND their children or just their children. They value price over features like "cloud gaming" and "disc free games."

[aholbert32]

Re: Xbox One

I guess all I am saying is that there are alot of people who buy consoles that never get online and get into discussions like this. They just buy a console.

Yep. While last Monday, I was on OS arguing features with my fellow gamers all my non-gamer friends were talking about how the ps4 was cheaper. Thats all that mattered to them

[Phobia]

Re: Xbox One

Since I have a sickness and will more than liklely have both on day 1...

I really don't care at all about how many other have the system I get UNLESS the numbers are so paltry that it's an issue for the long haul.
Having a huge online user base is pointless if the online experience is less than stellar. Hopefully Sony has taken steps in that regard.

See that is what I find concerning about the X1. The 360 & PS3 had a extremely close sales battle with 360 staying in the lead 90% of the way. There was games on PS3 that had literally zero online user base where the 360 version still had a solid base of players.

If the PS4 does continue to out pace the X1 by a 3/2 margin or more. I think that would equal to a lot more drastic online environment than people want to see.

Of course it is all hypothetical at this point, but if we followed the current online trend and sales numbers it looks as if X1 will have a rough time. If I had to guess I would expect to Sony to break 100 million units this generation and have X1 lag behind by 20 to 25 million. While certainly no small sales number, I think the hardcore will stay with PS4