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  • RJTurneR
    MVP
    • Aug 2010
    • 2183

    #286
    Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

    Games are still looking really good on the current consoles and I don't think a lot of developers are very excited over a new console. Plus with the economy the way it is, will people really spend $500 to $600 on a new system at this point?
    Exactly. They would really need to blow everything out of the water in order to make the new systems seem worth investing in.

    Why rush it. They have the ability to just release firmware updates, and developers still don't seem like they have reached the ceiling yet.

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    • kwilliam
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 1581

      #287
      Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

      It would have to be a total game changer for me to buy another console. My PS3 still works good as a console, bluray player, and a decent media player. 3D is not a game changer to me.
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      • mestevo
        Gooney Goo Goo
        • Apr 2010
        • 19556

        #288
        Originally posted by kwilliam
        It would have to be a total game changer for me to buy another console. My PS3 still works good as a console, bluray player, and a decent media player. 3D is not a game changer to me.
        Sony's next futile push will be 4k resolution.

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        • Flawless
          Bang-bang! Down-down!
          • Mar 2004
          • 16780

          #289
          Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

          Famitsu's tiny report says SE is developing this in conjunction with their CG studio Visual Works, target hardware is next gen and they're hoping in the near future games can be played in real time with such quality of graphics. The project is called "Philosophy", and what was shown is a small part for everyone to see its potential.
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          • jmood88
            Sean Payton: Retribution
            • Jul 2003
            • 34639

            #290
            Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

            Particle effects everywhere!
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            • RJTurneR
              MVP
              • Aug 2010
              • 2183

              #291
              Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

              Sony's next futile push will be 4k resolution.

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              I still don't think people would invest their money straight away, giving how you'd need a TV to support it. That's going to add to the price even more.

              Does Microsoft push for the same thing? Or simply go for Blu-ray, giving how they are still using DVD.

              I have a feeling Sony will win the hardware contest again. They just seem to have the better tech, across all their products.

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              • mestevo
                Gooney Goo Goo
                • Apr 2010
                • 19556

                #292
                Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                Originally posted by RJTurneR
                I still don't think people would invest their money straight away, giving how you'd need a TV to support it. That's going to add to the price even more.

                Does Microsoft push for the same thing? Or simply go for Blu-ray, giving how they are still using DVD.

                I have a feeling Sony will win the hardware contest again. They just seem to have the better tech, across all their products.
                As Sony has illustrated, "winning the hardware contest" on paper doesn't mean a successful product. They still might never see a profit on the PS3 and their television business has been unprofitable for 8 years.

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                • RJTurneR
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2183

                  #293
                  Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                  As Sony has illustrated, "winning the hardware contest" on paper doesn't mean a successful product. They still might never see a profit on the PS3 and their television business has been unprofitable for 8 years.
                  I can agree with that. The obvious problem with having the better hardware (This goes for any company) is the price. Their television business I wasn't aware of being that way for so long, which I find strange given the quality of their TV's (Which IMO, are one the best).

                  All comes down to one thing. Economy.

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                  • RoyalBoyle78
                    Aka."Footballforever"
                    • May 2003
                    • 23918

                    #294
                    According to an article I just read on pulse from gamestop, MS said that the 360 has 2 more years left and the they are in no rush to release a new console because of the still great sucess of the 360 and being number one globally, we might night see a new Xbox until later 2014...hmmmm

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                    • CaptainZombie
                      Brains
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 37851

                      #295
                      Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                      Originally posted by Footballforever
                      According to an article I just read on pulse from gamestop, MS said that the 360 has 2 more years left and the they are in no rush to release a new console because of the still great sucess of the 360 and being number one globally, we might night see a new Xbox until later 2014...hmmmm

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                      With the next generation coming up quickly, some may expect that the Xbox 360 will fall by the wayside as Microsoft transitions to the next generation. However, that doesn't seem to be the case, as Spencer says it has "a lot more than just two years left."

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                      "The world where everything gets centered around one console and when that comes out--we kind of have to evolve away from just thinking about that, [especially] with the service-based nature of games today. Right now the Xbox 360 is really healthy and it's doing incredibly well. I think the 360 has a lot more than two years [left]. It has legs for a long time."

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                      However, we expect Microsoft will keep supporting Xbox 360 for quite a while after the Xbox 720 arrives. Especially if they both share the same version of Xbox Live. Even if the first party games stop flowing, that doesn't prevent users from using their 360 for Netflix, purchasing videos, nor does it prevent third party developers from leveraging the tens of millions of current Xbox owners. So fret not, 360 owners.
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                      • TracerBullet
                        One Last Job
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 22119

                        #296
                        Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                        Originally posted by CaptainZombie
                        I really think the 360 will take on the role that the PS2 did for awhile after the PS3 released. Wonder if the PS3 will stick around or not though.
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                        • mestevo
                          Gooney Goo Goo
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19556

                          #297
                          Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                          I wouldn't be surprised if in a year or two they were able to get the system down to a Wii or Mac Mini size and sold it for 5 more years as a separate product than it's replacement. Xbox Live and the entertainment options it provides would make it difficult for Roku and that class of devices to really compete if they can price something like that at $99.

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                          • CaptainZombie
                            Brains
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 37851

                            #298
                            Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                            Originally posted by TracerBullet
                            I really think the 360 will take on the role that the PS2 did for awhile after the PS3 released. Wonder if the PS3 will stick around or not though.
                            I agree with that, I think the 360 will continue to sell like the PS2 did when it was in the same position. With the PS3 it will be interesting to see where things go. The dark horse in all this is that WiiU, it possibly could steal sales again from both. I find it funny though how both MSFT and Sony continue to write off Nintendo yet again, I guess they forgot what happened the last time.
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                            • mestevo
                              Gooney Goo Goo
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19556

                              #299
                              Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                              I just think the thing that makes them easy to write off is there's no Wii Sports.

                              I remember playing Wii Sports for the first time, and showing that to other people... and that game got us and them to buy the console. There's nothing really close to that experience at this point... especially if SmartGlass and Vita-PS3 stuff can gain any traction before the WiiU launches, takes a bit of the luster of experiencing the Gamepad even if it's not a superior experience.

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                              • DickDalewood
                                All Star
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 6263

                                #300
                                Re: Both PS4 and XBOX3 to be shown at E3

                                This is but one of the reasons I don't think we'll see new hardware from MS or Sony next year:



                                Not to say Wii U isn’t up to snuff with the other platforms. Iwata pointed out that certain multi-platform games that have already been shown already look comparable to their counterparts on other systems. “If you look at the game Assassin’s Creed III, which was recently announced or shown, you can’t see much difference when you compare it with games for other companies’ systems,” he said.
                                Yes, Nintendo is getting a jump start, but right now, and based off those comments, neither of the other two companies need to worry about their systems being outperformed yet graphically.

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