PlayStation 4 Discussion

[Focus10]

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Speaking of the PC vs consoles "debate"...just over 4 years ago I spent $2800 on a top of the line ASUS gaming laptop. Since I'm buying Quantum Break tomorrow I am getting a free copy of the Windows 10 version. I check the system specs thinking my laptop would run it but probably at lower settings.

Nope, my $2800 laptop which was as badass as they come 4 years and 1 month ago won't even run Quantum Break on the lowest possible setting.

Then I look over at my PS4 and Xbox One and remember why I prefer console gaming. I've had my PS4 for 2 years. I'll bet in 2 more years when its 4 years old it'll still be relevant to new PS4 games.

$399 versus $2,800 and the cheap one runs games for years and years while the other simply....doesn't. End of debate IMO.

Dont ever buy gaming laptop, overpriced junk. Just build a gaming PC, much much cheaper and you'll get quality visuals from your game

[The JareBear]

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You raise an excellent point, the dawn of the $69.99 game is upon us with this PS4K thing...

I'm confused, will they be using a new kind of blu-ray? Why is the price gonna go up?

[ckarlic]

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I just hope my Benq monitor doesn't explode and damage my house when my new 4k Ready PS4.5 starts pumping that insane, almost unthinkable futuristic image quality.

HDMI cords can't catch on fire, can they? I sure hope not. I bet that thing is gonna be runnin hot due to the juice being zipping through those wires

LOL..make sure you buy a wide enough HDMI cable to handle the 4K throughput..you don't what the cable slowing you down.

All jokes aside, im looking forward to the PS4.5

[The JareBear]

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I just don't understand how this is screwing over PS4 owners? The PS4 is still going to play PS4 games. You don't have to buy the PS4K.

This was predicted over a year ago I don't know why everyone is surprised.

Oh man you should have seen the novels I wrote on the Toyota Camry forum when, after I bought my Camry LE back in 2002, they released a Camry XLE later on that made my Camry TOTALLY OBSOLETE. I mean WTF Toyota? I have had this obsolete junker driving my fat butt around town ever since. Woe is me. 200k plus miles on an obsolete junker. Darn them, darn them straight to heck.

I mean, every time they come out with a new Camry, I just HAVE to buy it, right, or else, I mean, or else I get screwed over!

OR, I Dunno. Call me crazy, but MAYBE, just MAYBE, this isn't THAT big of a deal, and maybe some people are possibly over-reacting a little? Like, maybe lets get a concrete statement from Sony first, and move on from there?

[KingTocco]

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Lmaoooo I love this forum. You guys are great.


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[ODogg]

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I'm confused, will they be using a new kind of blu-ray? Why is the price gonna go up?

They'll use this as a reason for a game to be considered "premium" is my bet

[The JareBear]

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All I expect from the upgraded console is the ability to play games at 1080p at 60fps (if the devs patch old games to support it, and with all new games going forward). If they add something like SATA 3.0 support to take full advantage of SSD, that would just be icing on the cake. More USB ports? Even better.

If I am able to get a decent deal from GS or BB on a trade-up deal, I am gonna be all over it. That's just me. I don't think it's a big deal either way, and I think Sony is smart for making their already great product even better. Just my opinion.

[DJ]

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PlayStation Vue is pretty sweet, man. Doing the week trial now, but will go with the Core Elite package once that's up. $35/mo. for all the channels my wife and I watched on DirecTV for a third of the cost with no contract.

[The JareBear]

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PlayStation Vue is pretty sweet, man. Doing the week trial now, but will go with the Core Elite package once that's up. $35/mo. for all the channels my wife and I watched on DirecTV for a third of the cost with no contract.

Yeah due to the great reviews of the service on here I am for sure gonna try it out and probably pull the trigger on it.

[DJ]

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Yeah due to the great reviews of the service on here I am for sure gonna try it out and probably pull the trigger on it.

The Core Elite got me access to the local FOX Sports channels, so that's why I went that direction.

[H8ter2]

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They'll use this as a reason for a game to be considered "premium" is my bet

I could see this happening but if they offer it in non-4K at current price and 4K at higher price I don't see an issue with that

However I don't see game companies doing that for anything outside of 1st party Sony and Maybe for COD games

I just think the only difference with the games will be that the PS4k will upscale the "new" games which if I'm not mistaking really has much more to do with hardware then software

So long story short lol I still see $59.99 in the foreseeable future

[dickey1331]

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Oh man you should have seen the novels I wrote on the Toyota Camry forum when, after I bought my Camry LE back in 2002, they released a Camry XLE later on that made my Camry TOTALLY OBSOLETE. I mean WTF Toyota? I have had this obsolete junker driving my fat butt around town ever since. Woe is me. 200k plus miles on an obsolete junker. Darn them, darn them straight to heck.

I mean, every time they come out with a new Camry, I just HAVE to buy it, right, or else, I mean, or else I get screwed over!

OR, I Dunno. Call me crazy, but MAYBE, just MAYBE, this isn't THAT big of a deal, and maybe some people are possibly over-reacting a little? Like, maybe lets get a concrete statement from Sony first, and move on from there?

It makes me wonder how often some people update their cellphones.

[daniel77733]

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Why don't games on PC cost more? They can be run at 4k. How would releasing a PS5 in 2018 erase all your other concerns with a PS4.5 coming out in 2017? Wouldn't a PS5 make the PS4 obsolete, and everything else you said as well? Is the extra one year the difference between "perfectly OK with" and "totally outraged?"

Once again, PC can't be used as a comparison or argument. PC games sell LESS, a LOT LESS than on consoles and let's be honest, they're usually accompanied by a crap load of problems that doesn't exist on the console version. Also, the majority of them, if not all aren't on disc. Even in a case, you get a digital download which makes the entire retail version pointless.

Just because the PC can run a game in 4K doesn't mean the game will be in 4K. The game has to be developed with 4K in mind and how many PC gamers out there really run games in 4K or even own games that support 4K and by 4K, I mean native 4K. Not some watered down version.

PS5 would make PS4 obsolete but im looking at it in this regard - you know what they're doing and what their plan is from the BEGINNING, as opposed to three years down the line. Look at now...Sony has said NOTHING. Let's say they don't say anything at E3 which is what im expecting them to do as talking about it kills off the current PS4 in regards to sales for the summer and the fall/holiday season.

With PS5, the CONSUMER (you know, US, those who buy the damn thing) has the choice from the BEGINNING to either buy a launch console or to wait three years for the upgraded version. HUGE DIFFERENCE between KNOWING from the BEGINNING of a console's run compared to halfway down the line which sorry, is ******* bull crap no matter how you look at it. Some consumers wouldn't wait because they want it "now" while others may wait especially since the first two years in are usually cross gen ports and average at best.

Obviously, as one of the 40m users that own a PS4, I DON'T have that OPTION/CHOICE. Instead, I can either spend MORE MONEY on an upgraded console while my current one becomes useless and worthless or I can just stay with what I have and whatever the games are, they are. Luckily for me, im not a visual whore but what happens when there's games I want to play but are exclusive to PS4.5?

Then what? Let's say The Last of Us 2 is a PS4.5 exclusive? I have to purchase another PS4 just to play a game that my CURRENT PS4 should be able to play in the same damn way.

As for PS5, that was an example of doing the upgradable console thing CORRECTLY and WITHOUT screwing ANYONE over in the process. Personally, I think this gen should go at least eight years because when you look at what NAUGHTY DOG has done with Uncharted 4, imagine what The Last of Us 2 will be like and other developers too once they get more used to the console and what it can and can't do as well as the workarounds.

Go back to SNES, it's slow processor speed caused massive slowdown but once the third year hit, you saw less and less until it was basically no more. Reason why is TIME. Developers in time learned how to work around that problem.

Developers can easily do the same thing with PS4 and Xbox One but this isn't about the developers and I don't want to hear them say - "we need more power". Sorry but more power isn't going to make your game play better or eliminate the potential bugs, glitches and freezing problems. When the developers say that, in my head, it's the publishers who are paying their salaries that tell them to say that.

Do some of the developers want more power? Yes but is it necessary? No. It's just to get the publishers what they want the most and that's more money. People complain about the lack of innovation and revolutionary games this gen thus far and I agree 100% but why do people think that has happened? It's not because of the lack of power. It's the simple fact that these games cost tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to develop and that doesn't add in the fact of manufacturing, shipping, distribution, as well as paying the developers themselves as well as their studio utilities so when you have all of that cost, up front and with no guarantee that you'll earn it back, you have the same formula being repeated in games regardless of the publisher because it's less expensive to use assets from other games than to create and develop new ones.

The publishers were those who were pushing for all digital with Xbox One as it wasn't just Microsoft who wanted that. It was the publishers telling them that's what they wanted. Sony didn't want to do the same thing yet. But why do you think publishers want that?

It's because of MONEY, plain and simple. NONE of them including Sony and Microsoft give a flying **** about you, me or anyone else. This is why I completely changed my way of thinking in regards to gaming. Gaming isn't a cheap hobby and form of entertainment so I became like them. Want more but pay less. They want you to pay more but get less.

To me, Sony has been screwing up left and right. The consoles updates have been pathetic and I don't even care about them. PlayStation Plus is joke and instead of spending money on PS4.5, they should be taking all that money from the PlayStation Plus subscribers and using that to improve all the servers for PS4. Yeah, I know the store is getting a different look and I have seen it...it's worse. I don't want it going straight to a video. No. No. No. Add in the horrible launch of Vita (which in itself is a shame because it's easily superior to 3DS), PlayStation TV (which I still can't figure out why Sony released this), PlayStation Now which is another joke and then the insane price for PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games.

Sorry but Sony is eventually going to shoot themselves in the foot. They did it already. Microsoft and Nintendo have also done it several times. It's like none of the big three ever ******* learn and after a while, it's like, okay, no thanks...im sick and tired of spending all this extra money on consoles or whatever that will just be worthless a few months later.

And yet, there's consumers that are actually (no offense) stupid enough to want to buy a PS4.5 even though they don't realize that the console won't be able to do what those who are buying it are thinking it will do and that's play games in 4K. Honestly, good luck with that. All I see here is Sony screwing up all their momentum and good will and for what? A slightly more powerful console? Sorry but this isn't a Wii U situation. If anything, it's the complete opposite and why Sony wouldn't want to ride PS4 as long as possible is beyond me simply because it makes no sense whatsoever.

But hey, when this happens, go buy you4 PS42K console because that's pretty much what you're be getting for $400-$500.

One more tidbit - never ever in a history of console gaming has the console INCREASE in price. This would be the very first time that's EVER happened in console gaming which is just one more valid reason why this is an insane ******* idea.

One last tidbit - considering the fact that this was obviously planned out years ago yet Sony never mentioned any of it and still haven't despite it pretty much being real should show and tell everyone how bad of an idea it truly is and the simple fact that they don't give a damn if they rip you off or not.

After all, if they cared about the consumer and thought it was a good idea, they would have talked about it years ago as opposed to not talking about it 2 1/2 years after the PS4 launched.

EDIT: Seeing someone mention HDMI made me remember something else. The new PS4.5 would only be compatible with HDTV's that have HDMI 2.0 so if your HDTV doesn't have this port, sorry but that new PS4.5 console you just bought for $400+ is worthless. And yes, that's actually going to be another requirement.

As for the car or cell phone comparisons. Neither one is valid because that's how they've ALWAYS been not to mention the cell phone comparison is a joke. You can't do half the stuff on a console that you can do on say, an Iphone...not to mention the simple fact that cell phones are small, portable and fit in your pocket. Good luck fitting your PS4.5 in your pocket or carrying it around and even if you did somehow manage to do that, where the hell are you going to plus it in??? LMFAO.

[redsox4evur]

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It makes me wonder how often some people update their cellphones.

I go every 2 years usually. Whenever Apple decides to come out with a new phone.

[dickey1331]

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this post was way too long

You need to step away from the ledge. They aren't going to make PS4K exclusives. They aren't going to make the PS4 irrelevant. Your PS4 will play the same games as the PS4K except it will look a little worse but you won't know that because you won't own a PS4K.