Gaming Monitor discussion

[Artman22]

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I agree, also IMO, a lot of the crazy expensisve TV's out here are flat out overrated. I uses to be so Into getting the best TV's and what not, I don't care anymore, like you said, Im happy with what I play on and think it looks great.



I'm sorry, I'm not spending $4000 on any TV ever. I'm 40 years old, so trust me I have been in this TV/Gaming phase for a long time to know I myself ain't missing anything, and especially at $4000/$5000 for a TV

You can get an OLED for less than $2000 depending on the size and model and it’ll destroy that LG monitor to shreds when it comes to picture quality. It’s not even close. That monitor just has better performance in certain areas like input lag.


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[Artman22]

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I just got that a couple months ago. I will say it is AMAZING...The HDR I think is about as good as my OLED tv's and is super bright. 144hz in 4k with gsync works great with my 2080ti...the image quality is great on consoles...but there definitely is a little bit of blooming. Black screens with white text there most definitely is a glow around it. But due to having lighting zones there is no way around that without being OLED.

Well yea because its an LED but OLED cannot touch this monitor for HDR. OLED cannot reach 1000 nits which is the standard for HDR. This monitor is the best way to experience HDR in PS4 PRO and X

I’d love to get this monitor but it’s way overpriced. I’d give it a year or 2 to jump on it or the prices come down. I saw it in person and also noticed a little blooming too which drives me nuts. I’d personally prefer the perfect blacks of OLEDs. $2000-$1700 for a gaming monitor is insane in my opinion. It’ll be maybe another 2-3 years before gaming PCs can even do 4k at 144fps at max settings. Right now a high refresh rate 4k overpriced monitor doesn’t make sense.


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[XxGamerXx]

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I’d love to get this monitor but it’s way overpriced. I’d give it a year or 2 to jump on it or the prices come down. I saw it in person and also noticed a little blooming too which drives me nuts. I’d personally prefer the perfect blacks of OLEDs. $2000-$1700 for a gaming monitor is insane in my opinion. It’ll be maybe another 2-3 years before gaming PCs can even do 4k at 144fps at max settings. Right now a high refresh rate 4k overpriced monitor doesn’t make sense.


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Blooming will always be on LED tvs. But that is only sligh and on dark transition screens. OLED tvs cannot hold a candle to this monitor

HDR is true and super bright and DCI color is near 100 percent in HDR

Low input lag something OLED still cant get below 21ms

OLED HDR is dim compared to this monitor

OLED are great for watching movies and netflix.

For gaming not so much

And my i9 9900k and Asus Strix 2080ti gets easily over 100 fps in many 4k resolution max settings

Resident Evil 2 max settings can get to 120fps in 4k max with my rig

And the monitor works for PS4 and X as it does 4k 60hz and on xbox it can do 1080p 120hz via hdmi

The HDR in my PS4 PRO and X games blows away my C8 and QLED 8FN tvs

No question about it

[XxGamerXx]

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You can get an OLED for less than $2000 depending on the size and model and it’ll destroy that LG monitor to shreds when it comes to picture quality. It’s not even close. That monitor just has better performance in certain areas like input lag.


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Talking just gaming and HDR the TCL 6 series can be had for 550 at 55 inch and 800 for 65 inch and that tv is way better for gaming with lower input lag and superior brightness over OLED

[Artman22]

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Blooming will always be on LED tvs. But that is only sligh and on dark transition screens. OLED tvs cannot hold a candle to this monitor



HDR is true and super bright and DCI color is near 100 percent in HDR



Low input lag something OLED still cant get below 21ms



OLED HDR is dim compared to this monitor



OLED are great for watching movies and netflix.



For gaming not so much



And my i9 9900k and Asus Strix 2080ti gets easily over 100 fps in many 4k resolution max settings



Resident Evil 2 max settings can get to 120fps in 4k max with my rig



And the monitor works for PS4 and X as it does 4k 60hz and on xbox it can do 1080p 120hz via hdmi



The HDR in my PS4 PRO and X games blows away my C8 and QLED 8FN tvs



No question about it

Talking just gaming and HDR the TCL 6 series can be had for 550 at 55 inch and 800 for 65 inch and that tv is way better for gaming with lower input lag and superior brightness over OLED

I was talking overall picture quality. They’re not in the same league. Oled is picture quality king. I said before performance will always go to monitors.


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[XxGamerXx]

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I was talking overall picture quality. They’re not in the same league. Oled is picture quality king. I said before performance will always go to monitors.


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Yea OLED is incredible for movies....Gaming and HDR I take this monitor and the TCL 6 series.

Until OLED reduces the input lag and makes the HDR well above 1000 it falls short for me for HDR and Gaming

[joet6683]

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I was talking overall picture quality. They’re not in the same league. Oled is picture quality king. I said before performance will always go to monitors.


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yeah while OLED might not have the same peak brightness, the overall picture quality with pixel by pixel brightness overrides it. I think this monitor gets close, but not quite. Probably due to the smaller screen and having a decent number of dimming zones the bloom isn't terrible. But definitely is better than most LED tv's I've seen. And of course less input lag than a tv makes a huge difference, even though I believe the C8 is down in the low 20s, I notice a huge difference.

As far as the 4k 144hz ultra, the 2080ti can get well above 60 for newer games, sometimes up into the 100s (Anthem being an exception...) Games a few years old 120+ never seems to be a problem. Since I was previously using the 4k HDR LG monitor, it is a pretty big upgrade with the brightness, better dimming areas/blacks, g-sync, and refresh higher than 60hz. So it isn't totally worthless

[Artman22]

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yeah while OLED might not have the same peak brightness, the overall picture quality with pixel by pixel brightness overrides it. I think this monitor gets close, but not quite. Probably due to the smaller screen and having a decent number of dimming zones the bloom isn't terrible. But definitely is better than most LED tv's I've seen. And of course less input lag than a tv makes a huge difference, even though I believe the C8 is down in the low 20s, I notice a huge difference.



As far as the 4k 144hz ultra, the 2080ti can get well above 60 for newer games, sometimes up into the 100s (Anthem being an exception...) Games a few years old 120+ never seems to be a problem. Since I was previously using the 4k HDR LG monitor, it is a pretty big upgrade with the brightness, better dimming areas/blacks, g-sync, and refresh higher than 60hz. So it isn't totally worthless

Oh I’m sure this monitor is insane. I’m not doubting that at all. My thing is the asking price is nuts right now.


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[joet6683]

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Yea OLED is incredible for movies....Gaming and HDR I take this monitor and the TCL 6 series.

Until OLED reduces the input lag and makes the HDR well above 1000 it falls short for me for HDR and Gaming

The C8 is 21.8 in 4k HDR, while the TCL 6 is 19.6. Not a huge difference there. The OLED 9 series I believe I read a few months ago is targeting below 15ms. Not quite to a monitors 1-5ms, but amazing for a tv.

If you are sold on peak brightness, more power to you. But to me that doesn't make up for better black uniformity or contrast. And the OLEDs handle motion better, less blurring of the image.

[Artman22]

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The C8 is 21.8 in 4k HDR, while the TCL 6 is 19.6. Not a huge difference there. The OLED 9 series I believe I read a few months ago is targeting below 15ms. Not quite to a monitors 1-5ms, but amazing for a tv.



If you are sold on peak brightness, more power to you. But to me that doesn't make up for better black uniformity or contrast. And the OLEDs handle motion better, less blurring of the image.

I agree 100% with you on this. To me the perfect blacks, contrast and no blooming I’ll take over 1000 nite of brightness. Because the blacks on OLEDs are so good it makes HDR look fantastic.


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[XxGamerXx]

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The C8 is 21.8 in 4k HDR, while the TCL 6 is 19.6. Not a huge difference there. The OLED 9 series I believe I read a few months ago is targeting below 15ms. Not quite to a monitors 1-5ms, but amazing for a tv.

If you are sold on peak brightness, more power to you. But to me that doesn't make up for better black uniformity or contrast. And the OLEDs handle motion better, less blurring of the image.

Input lag not a big difference but still a bit better and what makes the TCL better for gaming is the fact that in HDR you get great peak brightness unlike the OLED. It does not matter pixel for pixel what OLED does because I have the C8 and I will never game on it after using my QLED and Asus monitor is not even a debate.

If I want to watch movies and tv there is nothing better then OLED right now but that is changing soon

[XxGamerXx]

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I agree 100% with you on this. To me the perfect blacks, contrast and no blooming I’ll take over 1000 nite of brightness. Because the blacks on OLEDs are so good it makes HDR look fantastic.


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HDR never looks fantastic when you cannot reach standard peak level of brightness and ABL is a game killer for me on any OLED.

Not to mention you need to baby an OLED with gaming with static logos

OLED is going to die in the next couple of years or be insignificant when Micro LED comes out and by the numbers more people buy LED over OLED because of Brightness and Burn in concern

Until you do not see how HDR looks in the ASUS monitor you cannot know what awesome HDR is

[RoyalBoyle78]

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HDR never looks fantastic when you cannot reach standard peak level of brightness and ABL is a game killer for me on any OLED.

Not to mention you need to baby an OLED with gaming with static logos

OLED is going to die in the next couple of years or be insignificant when Micro LED comes out and by the numbers more people buy LED over OLED because of Brightness and Burn in concern

Until you do not see how HDR looks in the ASUS monitor you cannot know what awesome HDR is

So here's a question, when I bought My LG UK650 and mentioned it was HDR , for those who bought the same monitor got feedback saying our Monitor is Fake HDR because it was 8bit Panel. Isn't your monitor only an 8 bit panel also, your contrast ratio is plenty higher then my LG, but again what makes the Asus monitor's HDR more real then the LG??

[XxGamerXx]

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So here's a question, when I bought My LG UK650 and mentioned it was HDR , for those who bought the same monitor got feedback saying our Monitor is Fake HDR because it was 8bit Panel. Isn't your monitor only an 8 bit panel also, your contrast ratio is plenty higher then my LG, but again what makes the Asus monitor's HDR more real then the LG??

Well that is easy, your LG monitor is 8 bit + FRC just like my ASUS monitor which is required to get HDR to accept

The difference is that Asus reaches at minimum 1000 nits and can reach close o 1200 nits in HDR and 50k in contrast.

The LG monitor maxes at 400 for HDR and contrast is about a few notches over 1000 in contrast only which is terrible

8bit + FRC and 10 bit panels get to the same color gradient but in different ways as 10 bit does it natively and 8 bit + FRC does it by quickly flipping the pixels and that to the human eye will look just like 10 bit native

But is the superb brightness and contrast that makes the ASUS stand out

Your TCL 6 series is also 8 bit + FRC and it has awesome HDR

[joet6683]

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I have the LG HDR monitor, ASUS monitor, and a C7 in my office. All connected via an HDMI matrix.


I can take a 4k HDR picture with my phone (not entirely sure if it will be better than a standard picture, but what the hell) of the exact same image on each at once. Assuming the picture justifies it, the ASUS monitor will be the brightest. The C7 will have much better blacks near bright images due to no blooming and better brightness accuracy overall, though not quite as bright. The LG HDR monitor will be sort of meh in comparison. Without dimming zones, the color is sort of washed out overall, not great on blacks. And not very bright either. Will certainly look better than the LG 4k monitor that doesn't have HDR...and looks good for the price considering the OLED and ASUS monitors are in the $2k range and that monitor is around $400 or so?