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  • jpup
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    • Feb 2003
    • 4571

    #5641
    Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

    Originally posted by Pared
    Right, but it's doing that via the cable box regardless. If you have your cable box set to only 720p, your set will stretch the image on a native 1080i, right? Same thing if your cable box is set to 1080i.

    CNET isn't all it's cracked up to be. I love the site but there are plenty of times when their information isn't 100% correct.

    I'll try tonight and check back with my results.
    you said that your box can do both at the same time? If that is so, then it would not stretch or "squish" it through the box. If not then yes I guess it would. I will say that it's a complicated mess that I will never fully understand.
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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #5642
      Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

      Originally posted by jpup
      you said that your box can do both at the same time? If that is so, then it would not stretch or "squish" it through the box. If not then yes I guess it would. I will say that it's a complicated mess that I will never fully understand.
      The box can detect what is the signal being broadcast then output that resolution to the TV. I mean even if the box can detect it's a 720p signal, since my TV is native 1080, the TV would still compensate when displaying the 720p signal, hence what you were initially saying. So it would still be squished/stretched/whatever either way.

      I think we can all agree on the last part!
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      • Rainey
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 4507

        #5643
        Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

        Originally posted by Pared
        Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but there is no "ideal setting" for most of these TV's. A professional takes into account many things including lighting, set placement, viewing distance/angle and so forth.
        Ah, that makes sense.
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        • SoMiss2000
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2002
          • 20499

          #5644
          Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

          just got home with my 37'' Vizio. I thought about paying a bit more for "1080p true HD". All this time they've been tellin us that 720p was HD. Next year, what's it going to be 2000p now is "true HD". This one will do. Its for the bedroom so I didn't need a 50'' 1080p tv. I'll use the extra money for a wall mount and HT in a box or a HD DVD player
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          • mjb2124
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 13649

            #5645
            Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

            Originally posted by jpup
            The TV is going to stretch that image to 1080, at least, that is the way I understand it. If you leave it at 1080 then the image isn't going to be stretched. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have never read anything to make me believe that the PQ of 720P is better than that of 1080i. I have read things to the contrary. Really, I don't think it makes a huge difference. I do know that with my TV, 1080i looks better than 720P. I guess that's what we all have to go by if we aren't to believe sites such as CNET.
            As you mentioned, set the cable box output to your TV's native resolution. I should have mentioned that earlier in my other post as that's the best one can get. In other words:

            1080i output is better for a native 1080i set whereas 720p output is better for a native 720p set. I've tried both on my native 720p and honestly didn't see much difference at all. I set it to 720p though because the guy who calibrated my set said that was what I should do.

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            • SoMiss2000
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2002
              • 20499

              #5646
              Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

              got my Vizio all set up. Using standard cable for now. i'll be picking up another digital hd receiver from TimeWarner tomorrow.
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              • Bruins
                .
                • Mar 2004
                • 6433

                #5647
                Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                Now I'm confused... my TV's native resolution is 1366 x 768. What resolution should I have my cable box output, 720p or 1080i?

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                • SoMiss2000
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 20499

                  #5648
                  Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                  Originally posted by Bruins
                  Now I'm confused... my TV's native resolution is 1366 x 768. What resolution should I have my cable box output, 720p or 1080i?
                  720
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                  • Bruins
                    .
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 6433

                    #5649
                    Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                    Originally posted by SoMiss2000
                    720
                    That's what I had. Thanks.

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                    • SportsorDeath
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2870

                      #5650
                      Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                      jpup is 100% right. Set your cable box/satellite receiver/game consoles to output at whatever the native resolution of your tv is, or as close to it as possible. If you have a 1080p set, I would set it to 1080i.

                      Nothing is "stretched", as jpup said, but keep in mind that every input signal will be scaled to the set's native resolution regardless of what it is. That means even a 480i or 480p signal.

                      While a lot of people believe a progressive signal, like 720p, will be better for fast moving images, and it is better, it doesn't matter if your set is 1080i. Even if you set your box or whatever to output at 720p, your set will still have to scale, or upconvert, to 1080i, or 1080p, or 768p, whatever the native rez is. Now, if you have a tv with a native resolution of 720p, and you have the output of your source set to 720p and the material you are watching is broadcast at 720p, then you will notice the cleaner motion on sports and other fast moving programming.

                      You want to minimize the number of conversions going on as much as possible, though. In many cases, there will be one at the cable box, or whatever source, and then another at the tv itself. If your box/sat receiver, etc. has a native resolution setting, you can use that and the box will switch on the fly to output 480p, 720p, or 1080i, depending on what resolution each channel is broadcasting at. The downside of that is that it often takes longer for the box to "lock onto" a channel, so it takes a bit longer for the image to show up after switching channels.

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                      • jpup
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 4571

                        #5651
                        Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                        Originally posted by SportsorDeath
                        jpup is 100% right. Set your cable box/satellite receiver/game consoles to output at whatever the native resolution of your tv is, or as close to it as possible. If you have a 1080p set, I would set it to 1080i.

                        Nothing is "stretched", as jpup said, but keep in mind that every input signal will be scaled to the set's native resolution regardless of what it is. That means even a 480i or 480p signal.

                        While a lot of people believe a progressive signal, like 720p, will be better for fast moving images, and it is better, it doesn't matter if your set is 1080i. Even if you set your box or whatever to output at 720p, your set will still have to scale, or upconvert, to 1080i, or 1080p, or 768p, whatever the native rez is. Now, if you have a tv with a native resolution of 720p, and you have the output of your source set to 720p and the material you are watching is broadcast at 720p, then you will notice the cleaner motion on sports and other fast moving programming.

                        You want to minimize the number of conversions going on as much as possible, though. In many cases, there will be one at the cable box, or whatever source, and then another at the tv itself. If your box/sat receiver, etc. has a native resolution setting, you can use that and the box will switch on the fly to output 480p, 720p, or 1080i, depending on what resolution each channel is broadcasting at. The downside of that is that it often takes longer for the box to "lock onto" a channel, so it takes a bit longer for the image to show up after switching channels.
                        very well said and I agree. You said it much clearer than I did.
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                        • SoMiss2000
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 20499

                          #5652
                          Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                          picked up a new HD Box for my new Vizio. I have a Time Warner box. how do I change the output settings to at least 720p. It's currently showing 480i according to the tv. Do I need the HDMI cable? The new box does not have HDMI but my dvr in the living room does. I think i'm going to switch out the boxes this weekend.
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                          • PVarck31
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                            • Jan 2003
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                            #5653
                            Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                            On the time warner dvr box if you turn it off then press info and guide on the box at the same time, it should take you into hd setup mode. note: sometimes you have the press them a few times for it to pop up.

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                            • Pared
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #5654
                              Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                              Originally posted by SportsorDeath
                              jpup is 100% right. Set your cable box/satellite receiver/game consoles to output at whatever the native resolution of your tv is, or as close to it as possible. If you have a 1080p set, I would set it to 1080i.

                              Nothing is "stretched", as jpup said, but keep in mind that every input signal will be scaled to the set's native resolution regardless of what it is. That means even a 480i or 480p signal.

                              While a lot of people believe a progressive signal, like 720p, will be better for fast moving images, and it is better, it doesn't matter if your set is 1080i. Even if you set your box or whatever to output at 720p, your set will still have to scale, or upconvert, to 1080i, or 1080p, or 768p, whatever the native rez is. Now, if you have a tv with a native resolution of 720p, and you have the output of your source set to 720p and the material you are watching is broadcast at 720p, then you will notice the cleaner motion on sports and other fast moving programming.

                              You want to minimize the number of conversions going on as much as possible, though. In many cases, there will be one at the cable box, or whatever source, and then another at the tv itself. If your box/sat receiver, etc. has a native resolution setting, you can use that and the box will switch on the fly to output 480p, 720p, or 1080i, depending on what resolution each channel is broadcasting at. The downside of that is that it often takes longer for the box to "lock onto" a channel, so it takes a bit longer for the image to show up after switching channels.
                              That's pretty much what I said I was going to do and it worked well for me yesterday. I liked having the TV display whatever was the native signal for that specific channel.

                              It's pretty stupid these channels aren't outputting all the same. I understand the difference but it is rather silly.
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                              • SoMiss2000
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                                • Oct 2002
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                                #5655
                                Re: HDTV Questions and Answers Thread

                                so apparently, new Vizio has this huge black box that has popped up on the bottom right corner of the screen and will not go away. I've turned the tv on and off, i've unplugged it and reconnected it, no dice. back to the store it's going on my day off thursday. sigh....


                                edit: i'm an idiot. crisis averted. won't tell what happened.
                                Last edited by SoMiss2000; 11-27-2007, 11:06 PM.
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