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  • mestevo
    Gooney Goo Goo
    • Apr 2010
    • 19556

    #1666
    Re: Comic Book Fans....

    I need to pick up killable.

    Got the Infinity HC, really nice.

    Wondering what they're going to do with Dr. Strange in New Avengers.

    Have the two you mentioned and a few others and haven't read them yet. Seeing a lot of chatter about Ms. Marvel being good so grabbed that too.

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #1667
      Re: Comic Book Fans....

      Haven't gotten around to reading the Marvels yet (that'll be tomorrow) but my three most anticipated titles this week are Wolverine, Punisher and Ms. Marvel in that order. We'll see how it goes.

      I tend to read the non DC/Marvel stuff on Wednesdays, Marvel on Thursday and DC on Friday/Saturday.
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      • JBH3
        Marvel's Finest
        • Jan 2007
        • 13506

        #1668
        Re: Comic Book Fans....

        Originally posted by mestevo
        I need to pick up killable.

        Got the Infinity HC, really nice.

        Wondering what they're going to do with Dr. Strange in New Avengers.

        Have the two you mentioned and a few others and haven't read them yet. Seeing a lot of chatter about Ms. Marvel being good so grabbed that too.

        Sent from my VZW Note 3

        Yea...I heard a lot of chatter about Ms. Marvel too, but the artwork didn't really impress me. Wasn't too into that style I guess. Marvel is going all-out w/ these new Marvel: NOW #1's. I don't know if it's desperation, or a great way to launch a lot of whole new titles....just seems a little much.


        Also, the amount of Avengers books is just ridiculous: Avengers, Avengers World, Secret Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Avengers AI, Avengers Assemble, Uncanny Avengers, and a new one w/ Baron Zemo....still feel like I'm missing a couple lol.
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        All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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        • LionsFanNJ
          All Star
          • Apr 2006
          • 9464

          #1669
          Re: Comic Book Fans....

          Ugh. I hate I've fell so fat behind my xmen comics that I have about twelve issues to catch up on. I haven't even gotten to battle of the atom

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #1670
            Re: Comic Book Fans....

            I gotta say I really liked Ms. Marvel though I didn't know about the hook of the book before reading it and I must say it's surprising in a good way that they're focusing on a teen Muslim girl. I liked the artwork in general as it evoked some of the artwork from the previous Ms. Marvel volume but being a bit cleaner. The best scene in the issue was seeing Kamala interacting with her family. I'm sure that SOME people would take issue with the family dynamic but I thought it was well done.

            Punisher was AWESOME! Marvel has been on a roll with that character (well except that weird space Punisher thing) and this is no exception. It seems he isn't completely a loner and that's a good thing IMO. I did like the referencing of The Howling Commandos. I'm sure that's not a reference to Sgt. Fury but it's nice that they're using the name either way. It'll be interesting to see how the develops over the next few issues.

            Wolverine.....massive disappointment. I'll still read it though but meh, this doesn't appeal to me.

            JBH3 I totally agree about Avengers. Marvel has really diluted the impact of that brand by having a gazillion books. It's gotten to the point that there's such a glut like the way they overdid it with the X-Men in the '90s. It also doesn't help that the Avengers books are often used for big events that interrupts the main story that the writer is doing.
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            • mestevo
              Gooney Goo Goo
              • Apr 2010
              • 19556

              #1671
              Re: Comic Book Fans....

              Yeah, the death of Uatu event is next up and more Avengers.



              I'm a little irked by the separate world-threatening arcs happening concurrently. This Uncanny Avengers arc going on w/ the fatalities and now a celestial executioner threatening the planet, feels so disconnected from the world that just went through the Phoenix Five, Age of Ultron, and to a lesser extent the Battle of the Atom. Yet this is contained in one book that has been going on what seems like forever.

              Hate the Apocalypse Twins though, they can't die soon enough. Have Kang bring back En Saba Nur and do something to make it so he's the only Apocalypse now and ever or something, please. If the X-Men movies were Marvel produced I bet I'd get my wish by 2016's X-Men: Apocalypse.

              Kinda getting tired of the incursion stuff in Avengers.
              Last edited by mestevo; 02-06-2014, 01:31 PM.

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              • RGmoney
                MVP
                • Sep 2003
                • 4681

                #1672
                Re: Comic Book Fans....

                What's Brewing for the New Wolverine Comic in 2014?: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/...ccb7122e000071

                Warning - there are spoilers for the new Wolverine #1 in this article.

                Wolverine's world is never peaches and cream, but lately life has grown even more difficult for the Ol' Canucklehead. During the course of Paul Cornell and Alan Davis' "Killable" storyline, Wolverine lost his healing factor and faced a gauntlet of his fiercest enemies. In the end, Sabretooth left him broken and scarred, and Wolverine made the dramatic declaration, "The Wolverine is dead."

                That storyline feeds directly into the newest Wolverine relaunch, which pairs Cornell with artist Ryan Stegman and chronicles a new era in Wolverine's career - what Marvel is labeling as "Season 2" of Cornell's run. As we saw in the first issue yesterday, Logan is now decked out with new gear, teamed with a group of supervillains, and working for a mysterious benefactor named "The Offer." And based on the final page, it would seem Logan has finally given up playing the hero.

                With the new series attracting equal parts excitement and controversy, Marvel chose to hold one of their "Next Big Thing" press calls today to shed more light on the new series. Cornell and Stegman were in attendance, along with editors Tom Brennan and Jeanine Schaefer and Marvel's Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso.

                Big Changes are Coming for Wolverine

                Cornell started off by talking about Wolverine's new group of allies. "They're a small group of supervillains led by another supervillain with a very simple power. That is to say, he can make anybody the best possible offer at that particular moment. He thinks he can parlay his small team into something much, much bigger. And Logan is part of his strategy in doing that. Logan is fully aware of that. Logan is a member of the team, and he doesn't quite know where his ethics lie right now. As a supervillain, he should feel more free to express himself in a claw-y and gun-y way. And the end of issue #1 sees him doing just that."



                One of issue #1's more distinctive qualities was the way it threw readers right into the action without really setting up this new status quo. Cornell indicated that readers will learn over the course of this first four-issue storyline exactly how everything came together. "The Offer did make him a very good offer - one that fitted very well with where he was at the time. The first four issues go back and forth between now, when he's working for The Offer, and a few weeks ago, where he was still trying to be a superhero. At the end of issue #4, we'll catch up to the present day and find out everything that's happened and how he got here."

                The new series also offers a new visual approach to Wolverine and his world compared to what we've seen from the various X-books in recent years. The most obvious change is Wolverine's new "ablative armor" costume, which was designed by artist Kris Anka. But Stegman explained the revamped style he wanted to bring to the series. "I just wanted to make him my own, or at least take him back to what I think he is, which is a little bit shorter and a bit uglier, so to speak. As far as the visual tone of the story, for the most part I just try to do what I think I do best, which is focus on the dynamic stuff and put in little acting flourishes. With Paul's scripts, the characters have a lot of character, so i just try to bring that out." Stegman also praised the work of colorist Daniel Curiel, whom he said "is really good at adding texture" to the page.

                Cornell said to Stegman, "I love how lumpy your Wolverine is. He's short and stout and lumpy and ugly. It really feels different." he continued, "I should really say that I love Ryan's work. He's brought this book alive. He's injected so much energy into it. It's awesome."
                Brennan addressed the need to design new characters to fill out Wolverine's supporting cast. "The mix of what Paul created in the text of those characters and Ryan's very creative design sense... before they even talk you already kind of have a feel for who they are based on the look that Ryan's given them. He always does a good job of creating very specific and memorable characters that we can play with. And then the moment they do speak, you feel like they're characters you've known your whole life."

                The conversation then shifted to Wolverine's dark character turn. Cornell said, "I think he's trying to find out what his rules are. As Sabretooth pointed out in the last arc, he's always said he's had a code of honor. But whatever it is, he doesn't stick to it. I think now, he wants to find out exactly where the line is and what his rules are. It's the second season of this one, big story about Wolverine. We'll get to him finding out some kind of understanding about who he is and what he stands for - what sort of hero and what sort of man he is."

                Brennan elaborated, "We've seen him savage. We've seen him lose control. We've seen him as a dangerous character. I don't think we've ever seen him as emotionally cold as Paul and Ryan are crafting him in this arc. To me, as a reader, it's more chilling than ever before."

                Marvel fans can look forward to a number of guest stars in the months ahead. Black Widow appeared in issue #1. Spider-Man is featured on the cover to issue #2. And as the newly revealed cover to issue #5 shows, Wolverine is due for another run-in with Thor soon. Cornell said of issue #5 (which will be illustrated by Gerardo Sandoval), "Thor is outraged, frankly. Wolverine makes the mistake of trying to go back to his favorite bar where superheroes hang out. And that life is not available to him anymore. Thor appeared in our last arc visiting that bar, and he sticks around. So when Wolverine goes back to that bar, there's Thor, and he doesn't fancy sharing space with somebody who has left the fold. And it becomes the fight. It's a good sign that Wolverine has left that life behind, because Thor is the most innately noble of all Marvel characters."

                The encounter between Wolverine and Spider-Man in issue #2 should offer a more unexpected dynamic, as Spider-Man has been going through his own character transformation of late. Cornell said, "That's actually a reversal of the situation that's been happening, where Peter Parker used to follow Wolverine around. And now it's Doc Ock in there, and it's Logan following him to ask him some specific questions. They have a very interesting conversation about big personality changes in superheroes. I've wanted to have those two talk for the longest time, and I'm really pleased we got it done."

                As for Wolverine's relationship with the X-Men, Cornell described it as "strained and distant." The editors promised that it will quickly become apparent how the various X-books fit together in relation to Wolverine's new status quo. In particular, Jason Latour's Wolverine and the X-Men will deal heavily with Wolverine's decision to find a replacement to lead his school. Brennan said, "A big part of Wolverine and the X-Men is him thinking about who's going to replace him when he's gone. Fantomex is playing a role in that book, Storm is playing a role in that book, Quentin Quire is playing a more mature role in that book. As we're seeing in this series, he's already thinking about that." Sabreooth was also confirmed to play a role in this series, as his influence will continue to be felt even if he doesn't immediately appear.

                It was revealed that angry letters have already started arriving at the Marvel office, despite the issue only having just debuted yesterday. Cornell noted some excitement at the thought of making people angry with a comic book. And Schaefer acknowledged, "People are angry, but in a great way. You want to evoke that really passionate emotion in fans. I think we've been able to tap into something that has gotten people really fired up. And I think it's going to keep people coming back. I'm really excited to see what people react to as we go along."

                Stegman said, "The first time it happened on Superior Spider-Man, I was really scared that the rage meant the book was going to tank or something. This time I understand that it's more that the fans are just passionate about the character, and this means that they're into it, which is good."

                Alonso teased, "If fans are angry now, they're going to be much angrier towards the end of the year. There's going to be a lot of controversy. What Paul is doing is building, really, two stories here, and teeing up something massive. I have no doubt we'll be talking about Wolverine a lot in the next few months."

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                • JBH3
                  Marvel's Finest
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 13506

                  #1673
                  Re: Comic Book Fans....

                  Originally posted by LionsFanNJ
                  Ugh. I hate I've fell so fat behind my xmen comics that I have about twelve issues to catch up on. I haven't even gotten to battle of the atom

                  Sounds like fun to me, now get to reading.

                  Originally posted by SPTO
                  JBH3 I totally agree about Avengers. Marvel has really diluted the impact of that brand by having a gazillion books. It's gotten to the point that there's such a glut like the way they overdid it with the X-Men in the '90s. It also doesn't help that the Avengers books are often used for big events that interrupts the main story that the writer is doing.

                  Yea like there's too many Avengers books and I don't know where to start. I picked up one of the books recently, "Avengers" issue #24; the variant edition mainly because I like the throwback cover from Uncanny X-Men #142. I was about to pick up the Mighty Avengers out this week because the cover struck me too, but I declined because I didn't know what I was jumping into.


                  I read X-Factor #2, major disappointment IMO. I felt like they could've really done something w/ the
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                  but they just wrapped up the story into a neat little bow and dismissed it altogether in order to have a confrontation w/ some chick Polaris saves and some Quicksilver continuity which I know nothing about. Stupid.... and the next issue features Gambit on the cover holding a bunch of puppies... yea... Besides that the writing of the antagonist's dialogue was just weak and elementary. Not really looking forward to X-Factor after this.
                  Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                  All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                  • JBH3
                    Marvel's Finest
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 13506

                    #1674
                    Re: Comic Book Fans....

                    One thing I was pondering earlier today was, who is a fairly new character in the Marvel U (let's say 10 yrs old) who is prominent and gaining popularity. Is there anyone like this?


                    Because from the books I've been reading, it's mainly just the same old characters w/ new stories. Part of the value in comics is having that "1st Appearance" of a rising/popular character. Is their a new character like this nowadays in Marvel?


                    I think I saw that the Avengers World book was introducing some brand new characters.


                    I guess maybe Winter Soldier would be one of the more prominent/new characters (although he's really just Bucky Barnes)?


                    I begin to get to this point where it seems like today's writers/creators can spin a good yarn, but creatively...really jumping out there and taking risk in a new character or developing a new villain for an older hero, there's just not that level of creativity, or it's not the direction Marvel wants to go in?
                    Last edited by JBH3; 02-07-2014, 09:59 PM.
                    Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                    All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                    • GiantYankee
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 717

                      #1675
                      Re: Comic Book Fans....

                      Originally posted by JBH3
                      One thing I was pondering earlier today was, who is a fairly new character in the Marvel U (let's say 10 yrs old) who is prominent and gaining popularity. Is there anyone like this?


                      Because from the books I've been reading, it's mainly just the same old characters w/ new stories. Part of the value in comics is having that "1st Appearance" of a rising/popular character. Is their a new character like this nowadays in Marvel?


                      I think I saw that the Avengers World book was introducing some brand new characters.


                      I guess maybe Winter Soldier would be one of the more prominent/new characters (although he's really just Bucky Barnes)?


                      I begin to get to this point where it seems like today's writers/creators can spin a good yarn, but creatively...really jumping out there and taking risk in a new character or developing a new villain for an older hero, there's just not that level of creativity, or it's not the direction Marvel wants to go in?
                      That's my biggest problem with Marvel/DC these days. Lack of new characters. As a kid I didn't mind reading the most popular characters over and over. I initially jumped in very hard on the New 52 but I burned myself out by buying too many titles. I also got frustrated that some of the new(er) charterers like Static, Grifter didn't last. I feel like if Marvel or DC really wanted to try to create and push a new hero/villain, they would put a Scott Synder, Mark Waid, Dan Slot, etc on the project. Getting the itch to jump back in. I've heard great things about Superior Foes of Spider-Man and New Avengers.
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                      • mestevo
                        Gooney Goo Goo
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 19556

                        #1676
                        Re: Comic Book Fans....

                        Hate what DC did to Wildstorm.

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                        • mestevo
                          Gooney Goo Goo
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 19556

                          #1677
                          Re: Comic Book Fans....

                          So I just read all of Injustice Year One... back to back in one sitting.

                          Wow. Amazing.

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                          • Slymm
                            Th* m*n...
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 3406

                            #1678
                            Re: Comic Book Fans....

                            Originally posted by mestevo
                            So I just read all of Injustice Year One... back to back in one sitting.

                            Wow. Amazing.
                            Did this two weeks ago. Awesome book. Can't wait to see where it goes.
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                            • JBH3
                              Marvel's Finest
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 13506

                              #1679
                              Re: Comic Book Fans....

                              Originally posted by mestevo
                              So I just read all of Injustice Year One... back to back in one sitting.

                              Wow. Amazing.
                              Originally posted by Slymm
                              Did this two weeks ago. Awesome book. Can't wait to see where it goes.


                              Injustice is hands down my favorite book right now; Deadpool is a close 2nd.


                              Injustice takes all the risk that you want to see happen in normal continuity but never does (or is a snails-pace build up to).
                              Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                              All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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                              • JBH3
                                Marvel's Finest
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 13506

                                #1680
                                Re: Comic Book Fans....

                                Posted this in the Xmen Days of Future Past thread, but it may get more traction here:


                                Originally posted by JBH3, Xmen Days of Future Past Movie Thread
                                I wasn't born when the "Days of Future Past" story was written in 1980 (Born '81), but I recently bought the trade. Having read the story now and from what I've seen of the movie previews, it seems like a very vague adaptation of the comic.


                                In the comic Wolverine does not travel to the past, Kitty Pryde does. Wolverine's future self is trying to infiltrate the Baxter Building to overthrow the Sentinels main computers, while Wolverine's present self battles the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants lead by Mystique as they try to kill Senator Kelly.


                                Kitty Pryde's future self switches minds with her present day self IOT save Senator Kelly from the assassination that leads to the sentinels taking over the future.


                                The comic story is all about Kitty Pryde's coming of age as a member of the team, which I would've rather seen the movie be about, but it appears Fox thinks the viewership will only want to see Wolverine/Hugh Jackman be the main protagonist?


                                I am still interested in the movie though.
                                Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                                All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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