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  • inkcil
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    • Jul 2002
    • 5253

    #2206
    Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
    I thought they did a good job with it. Its not like it was the focus of every scene with him from the hospital until the end.
    It's not that they did a bad job with it....it's just that i feel it was out of context to do it that way. The movie felt so real up to that point. So real. Then all of a sudden - BAM! - here's a half-cartoon version of Two-Face. Up to that point Gotham felt so real. Suddenly it became a cartoon.

    Still I loved ev'thing up to that point and the rest after that wasn't all bad, but the scene under the freeway with Gordan was really streched out, awkward and not well written. And the fact (or opinion) that the weakest scene in the movie ended up being the last scene, it left a bad taste in my mouth.

    Joker was brilliantly done.
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    • Fresh Tendrils
      Strike Hard and Fade Away
      • Jul 2002
      • 36131

      #2207
      Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

      Out of context? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to get at with Two-Face. Was your big problem the actual CGI of his face or what?

      I thought the exchange between Batman and Gordon to end the movie was amazing and wrapped up all the emotions and the complete atmosphere perfectly.



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      • inkcil
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        • Jul 2002
        • 5253

        #2208
        Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
        Out of context? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to get at with Two-Face. Was your big problem the actual CGI of his face or what?

        I thought the exchange between Batman and Gordon to end the movie was amazing and wrapped up all the emotions and the complete atmosphere perfectly.
        Yes I had a problem with the CGI of his face.


        The scene with Gordon and Batman at the end was cool but I was specifically referring to the whole scene with two-face and gordon and his kid and batman and gordon's wife...that scene sucked
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        • Blzer
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          • Mar 2004
          • 42533

          #2209
          Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

          The only problem I had is how Dent became somewhat of a big baby post-half-face-burn. Everything was "... just like Rachel did," "... just like how I loved Rachel," "... say sorry as you watch your loved one die, just like I had to."

          Unfortunately most of this movie was probably scripted and filmed before Spider-Man 3's reception about rushing Venom, and had they known some stuff before I feel they maybe could have added a good ten more minutes of substance to iron out Two-Face more so it's a bit more realistic in a way.
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          • CaptainZombie
            Brains
            • Jul 2003
            • 37851

            #2210
            Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

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            • Pared
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              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #2211
              Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

              Someone spent a lot of time one that.
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              • Beantown
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                • Feb 2005
                • 31523

                #2212
                Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                That's pretty sick, though.

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                • yamabushi
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 1265

                  #2213
                  Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                  Originally posted by inkcil
                  Yes I had a problem with the CGI of his face.


                  The scene with Gordon and Batman at the end was cool but I was specifically referring to the whole scene with two-face and gordon and his kid and batman and gordon's wife...that scene sucked
                  I feel your pain, Two-face looks like he came out of one of the Schumacher films.
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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #2214
                    Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                    Originally posted by inkcil
                    Yes I had a problem with the CGI of his face.


                    The scene with Gordon and Batman at the end was cool but I was specifically referring to the whole scene with two-face and gordon and his kid and batman and gordon's wife...that scene sucked
                    I thought that scene was amazing. Very, very tense and really portrayed Two-Face with a very twisted sense of justice.

                    I still don't have a problem with the CGI. Yeah, that picture isn't good to look at, but in motion and cleaned up it looked a lot better in actual movie.



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                    • Misfit
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5766

                      #2215
                      Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                      I thought the visible bone was over the top and a bit cartoony. He would have looked better with just a really burnt face. Still, I thought they did a good job of making him look disgusting.

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                      • Kashanova
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 12695

                        #2216
                        Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                        Originally posted by yamabushi
                        I feel your pain, Two-face looks like he came out of one of the Schumacher films.
                        that looks nothing like the two face in the movies

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                        • Kashanova
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 12695

                          #2217
                          Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                          I thought that scene was amazing. Very, very tense and really portrayed Two-Face with a very twisted sense of justice.

                          I still don't have a problem with the CGI. Yeah, that picture isn't good to look at, but in motion and cleaned up it looked a lot better in actual movie.
                          I agree that scene was awesome, I really love the part where he tells gordon " Tell your boy he's going to be alright. Lie like I Lied" it was very twisted.

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                          • JohnnytheSkin
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 5914

                            #2218
                            Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                            Originally posted by yamabushi
                            I feel your pain, Two-face looks like he came out of one of the Schumacher films.
                            Or it came from...you know...the comics...


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                            • ehh
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #2219
                              Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                              I finally saw this tonight, what an amazing movie. I love flicks with great villains and this one is at the top of the list. I'm not into buying/collecting DVD's at all but I think I'm going to pick this up.
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                              • inkcil
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 5253

                                #2220
                                Re: The Dark Knight Discussion **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

                                Originally posted by Misfit
                                I thought the visible bone was over the top and a bit cartoony. He would have looked better with just a really burnt face. Still, I thought they did a good job of making him look disgusting.
                                exacly, that's all I'm saying...it was too cartoony and didn't fit the rest of the movie b/c the rest of the movie wasn't cartoony like that. Imagine if Joker's smile was CGI or if batman's motorcycle was cgi...two-face's burnt side fit in more with Speed Racer than batman.

                                They should have just hired a really good makup artist to make him look naturally burnt, with puss and sores and scars, etc. Two-face's burnt side in this movie looked like a perfect diagram of what your muscles and tissues look like under the skin, like some kind of drawing in a medical book.

                                It just totally snapped me out of the perfect fantasy that had been created up until that point.

                                That's what I loved about Batman begins and movies like Punisher...it's like "this could really happen."
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