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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #466
    Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils

    He also brought up something I didn't really think about. The formation of Sandman. I understand that he had escaped from jail and was running from the police, but what kind of experiment was going on and why? I mean, the pit literally came from nowhere and disappeared with no explanation.
    It takes a keen eye to see what they were doing but if you looked at him climbing over the fence you'll very quickly see a warning sign saying they were doing a particle accelerator test.

    BTW about Harry's butler. I have to admit that was a bit TOO pat but from the standpoint of Harry finally getting it that Peter truly cared for him and was a friend it worked. The execution of it however was BAD.
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    • Fresh Tendrils
      Strike Hard and Fade Away
      • Jul 2002
      • 36131

      #467
      Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

      Originally posted by SPTO
      It takes a keen eye to see what they were doing but if you looked at him climbing over the fence you'll very quickly see a warning sign saying they were doing a particle accelerator test.
      Yeah, I saw the sign but I still think it was too quick of a reference or background to exactly how and why Marko was turned into the Sandman. I mean, I think it would have been more interesting had the facility been linked to Oscorp or something and attached to the storyline rather than "just being there."



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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #468
        Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
        Yeah, I saw the sign but I still think it was too quick of a reference or background to exactly how and why Marko was turned into the Sandman. I mean, I think it would have been more interesting had the facility been linked to Oscorp or something and attached to the storyline rather than "just being there."
        Ah good point, You know the more I think about the more it seems the script was way too disjointed because Raimi put WAY too much story into the script. Maybe that's why some of the more emotional scenes just didn't click to me. The movie was too jammed packed with different elements.
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        • JayBee74
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 22989

          #469
          Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

          I'm kind of in a reflective mood right now, and whatever your opinion of the Spidey movies are, they didn't hit me as hard from an emotional standpoint as the comics themselves. I don't think it was because I was younger, I think that it's just the nature and magic of the comic book.

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          • The GIGGAS
            Timbers - Jags - Hokies
            • Mar 2003
            • 28474

            #470
            Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

            I enjoyed it a lot.

            A lot a lot.
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            • Kelverin
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 1479

              #471
              Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

              Spider-Man 3 more of the same. Too much crying, but over all much like the other flicks. The action sequences were unbelievable. I hope they continue to make more.

              For those that praise either or both of the first two films and condemn this one??????
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              • Rback21
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1229

                #472
                Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                Originally posted by PrimeTime23
                Also anyone feel Kristen Dunst is getting old? I just see no connection with her and her acting has gone down since the first one.
                I hate to say it but she's just not attractive enough to be MJ. Although MJ is a COMIC BOOK CHARACTER, she was still very attractive and Ms. Dunst doesn't even come close portraying her.
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                • Kelverin
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1479

                  #473
                  Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                  Originally posted by Rback21
                  I hate to say it but she's just not attractive enough to be MJ. Although MJ is a COMIC BOOK CHARACTER, she was still very attractive and Ms. Dunst doesn't even come close portraying her.
                  She should have been Gwen Stacy from the beginning. They nailed Betty but missed big time with MJ and have since the first movie.
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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #474
                    Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                    Mandy Moore is rumored to be the next MJ.

                    Personally I would like to see Denise Richards but she next to Tobey just wouldn't look right.

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                    • rudyjuly2
                      Cade Cunningham
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 14815

                      #475
                      Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                      Originally posted by Kelverin
                      Spider-Man 3 more of the same. Too much crying, but over all much like the other flicks. The action sequences were unbelievable. I hope they continue to make more.

                      For those that praise either or both of the first two films and condemn this one??????
                      Different strokes I guess. I thought the first two were fantastic and the third one mediocre. The third one had a different feel to it and lacked a good story. I liked Norman Osborne/Green Goblin and Otto Octavius/Dr. Octopus a lot better than any of the villains in the third one.
                      Last edited by rudyjuly2; 05-12-2007, 05:47 AM.

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                      • Misfit
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5766

                        #476
                        Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                        Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                        There's no way they can bring back Venom. If the movie established one thing, it established that (at the very least) Brock was killed. Without Brock, there's no Venom.

                        I don't think it would be impossible or too much of a stretch for a franchise that makes one character living sand to bring Brock back. Brock basically got hit with the same bomb that only messed up Harry's face, and the symbiote was there to protect him. After the dust settles we just see a small piece of the symbiote on the ground. They could easily say the symbiote pulled Brock away and off the ledge while only a small portion was destroyed.

                        Plus, IGN said at one of the premieres of the film an actor told them that they're character, who appeared dead on-screen, may not really be dead and is coming back for the sequel. Other than Brock, the only character that appears to die is Harry. If they bring Harry back I won't even watch it, seems more likely the actor they were talking to was Grace.

                        And personally, I don't want a Carnage in Spidey 4. Carnage is a shallow character, a serial killer with a symbiote costume, there's no intelligence within him or method to his madness. The only possible climax for the film would be a cheesey team-up between Spider-Man and Venom. I'd rather the fourth film follow Venom's early appearances in the comics with Venom just stalking and attacking not only Spider-Man, but Peter Parker and those close to him. A new character that could be introduced and make sense would be the Black Cat setting up a conflict where Peter loves Mary-Jane, but Spider-Man is falling for the Black Cat. I'd like to see the Lizard, but I'd prefer not to see another "experiment gone wrong leads to supervillain" in the fourth movie. Instead, build on the Parker/Connors relationship. Have Kurt find a way to help Spider-Man defeat Venom in a more interesting way than with a ring of pipes.

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                        • Misfit
                          All Star
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5766

                          #477
                          Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                          Yeah, I saw the sign but I still think it was too quick of a reference or background to exactly how and why Marko was turned into the Sandman. I mean, I think it would have been more interesting had the facility been linked to Oscorp or something and attached to the storyline rather than "just being there."
                          I think that was the focus. They didn't want the Sandman's creation to be a major story point for the movie. They just wanted it to happen. Hence why the Sandman never makes a remark about it throughout the film as if he's angry it happened, or sad. It just happened. That and it's hard to create a believable reason for a man to be turned into living sand.

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                          • EWRMETS
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 7491

                            #478
                            Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                            Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                            Different strokes I guess. I thought the first two were fantastic and the third one mediocre. The third one had a different feel to it and lacked a good story. I liked Norman Osborne/Green Goblin and Otto Octavius/Dr. Octopus a lot better than any of the villains in the third one.
                            I agree. The first two films were so focussed and really developed the villains. This movie was more about the struggle within Spiderman and the Parker/MJ/Harry dynamic. Because the movie had 2 (or 3) villains and also the dark Spiderman, it came off as more of a montage than a movie. If they would have split up the movies I think it would have been a lot better. Could have done something like Spiderman 3 part 1 in May and part 2 in August.

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                            • Kanobi
                              H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 6052

                              #479
                              Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                              I didn't know Bryce Dallas Howard could look that hot! Wow! She made Dunst look like bad but Dunst has never been that attractive to begin with.

                              I liked the referrence someone made earlier about Denise Richards playing MJ but...I dunno...maybe if it was a younger Richards (i.e Starship Troopers ten years ago) I'd be all for it but she looks a lil aged (She's 36...11 years older than Dunst). As far looks, however, Richards' resemblance to the comic book MJ is just uncanny and well worth an attempt by Raimi to cast her in the role I suppose.

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                              • ODogg
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 37953

                                #480
                                Re: Spiderman 3 Chatter

                                I was a comics shop yesterday and word is Jake Gyllehal (sp?) will be the new Spiderman in the next movie. Anyone else hearing this? It wouldn't surprise me as I think he was wanted to do the first trilogy but was unavailable due to other movie commitments. I also recall he was considered for the Venom/Brock role but declined because he wanted to be Spiderman if MacGuire bowed out.
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