Official Hip Hop/Rap Music Thread

[DieHardYankee26]

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I thought this was his best work from top to bottom. Didn’t really find myself skipping thru tracks like I usually do.

Why’d you give him 0/5 on release timing?

This album is probably my favorite of his albums, and has the highest highs of any of them. I do like The Cut Off and ATM on the first half, but the whole second half he's in the pocket I wanna hear him in. My favorite project of his is still Friday Night Lights, Before I'm Gone is forever my ****. What I do like about this is it's very concise.

The release timing thing was kind of a joke, it's probably genius timing. Just very much a buzz kill on such a joyous holiday. My favorite song is FRIENDS by far, and I definitely could've waited until next week to hear it lol.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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I freaking love Cole’s album . From top to bottom . The Once and Addict hit my soul because I went through similar with my mom .

[DieHardYankee26]

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So with this decade of hip-hop coming to a close relatively soon, where do you guys rank it compared to the 90s and 00s?

I'm starting to realize how much music tastes has to do with associating certain periods of your life and being 31 now, I definitely don't seek out the kinds of songs I was listening to in the 00s. When I've tried, I just haven't been able to get into anything probably since 2012-14. I'm just not down with the "mumble rap" and am meh on Drake.

With that said, I think I'd rank it:

- 00s
- 90s
- 10s

I'm sure my ranking is reflective of my age and my adolescence/early 20s being in the late 90s-mid 00s, but I'm curious on how others would rank them. I love the best of the 90s and would maybe even rank the best (Pac, Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z) over the best of the 00s, but I have a wider-range of 00s songs on my playlists than 90s.

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For me, there's music before I got my first iPod and music after (2006). The 90's speak for themselves, icons and laying the groundwork. My memory of the 2000s is a worse version of what we have now, where pop rap dominates the charts and I just didn't have the methods to search the internet to escape it and find what I actually wanted. Most of what I remember from the 2000s aside from regional **** like Timbaland, Clipse, Pharrell, and Missy is stuff like 50 Cent, Ludacris. Not that the music wasn't good, just that I have no desire now to go back and listen to it. So 90s > 10s > 00s. A lot of the music I love now, the seeds were planted in the 2000s like T-Pain and auto tune and then Kanye with 808s leading into Drake. Because of that, it's hard for me to separate a lot of the mid-2000s from the late 2000s when I was in high school, and a lot bleeds over. Guys like Drake, Cudi, Cole were around kind of in both eras to an extent, even if it was super late.

I agree that a lot has to do with age and also location. We have a meme here (VA) that everyone a certain age from this area tried to recreate the Grindin beat at the lunch table. I always wonder what that song is in other places. Are kids in the Bay trying to recreate Mac Dre beats? Are kids in Houston trying to recreate slowed down versions of whatever beats they like? I feel like every rapper I listened to as a kid was from New York. Now they're spread out everywhere. The genre is just so much bigger now that even having to sift through the trash, there's still more than enough gems to make it worth it. If you include R&B then the 2000s comes up big just for the Weeknd, but the 90s were great there as well so still on top.

Wayne's mixtape run is probably the most impact rap has ever had on me. Even outside of music, scavenging for his stuff is how I ended up learning networking and getting into my field.

Two questions for the thread:

1.) Is there a difference to you between your favorite rapper and who is the best? Wayne is my favorite by far, but I think Biggie and Black Thought are who I consider the best.

2.) Do you separate music from the artist? This one is interesting to me, especially in the context of rap where a lot of guys come up from hard situations and have to fight their way out of them. It just made me wonder. I was thinking of asking this a few weeks back when I was reading an article about XXXtentacion and Kodak's legal issues, whether or not it's condoning their behavior by supporting their music, and then the Kanye stuff made me think about it again.

[DieHardYankee26]

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http://www.tmz.com/2018/04/24/meek-mill-released-from-prison/

The justices released Meek with no bail, pending a hearing in about 60 days to possibly dismiss the conviction.

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[ProfessaPackMan]

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You know Kanye got an album ready to drop when he starts saying wild **** again.

[DieHardYankee26]

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He's gone full Charlie Sheen. Dragon energy is the new tiger blood. **** is wrong with this guy LMAO

[DieHardYankee26]

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This ****in' guy...

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The whole tape is great but that and Santeria are just amazing to me.

Also:

https://twitter.com/blackthought/status/1000043742664028162

Streams of Thought June 1.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Dunno if I can embed a Soundcloud link but had to post this separately...it has begun!

https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown/duppy-freestyle

[KG]

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Thank you Pusha!


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[Jukeman]

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Another Meh Pusha solo project ontop of getting bodied...I’m long overdue for a Clipse or Re Up Gang reunion...

Unpopular opinion but I haven’t heard a good KanYe beat since the Rocafella days.


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[DieHardYankee26]

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Another Meh Pusha solo project ontop of getting bodied...I’m long overdue for a Clipse or Re Up Gang reunion...

Unpopular opinion but I haven’t heard a good KanYe beat since the Rocafella days.


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I can't understand a single word of this. Another meh solo project...getting bodied by who? The worst lines in the Drake diss were to Kanye and Quentin Miller lol. He's not lyrically capable of bodying Pusha, and I'm a huge Drake fan. The Canadian pop star who watched 2 seasons of Narcos can't make comments on drug trafficking, he just can't, we can't allow that.

His diss bars don't really hold up for me. It reminds me of the Meek thing, at the time everyone was freaking out over the "Is that a world tour or your girl's tour" and Meek came out a while after and was like "Half of my bitches they richer than me" cause that's not even an insult lol.

Breakfast Club yesterday Push said he wouldn't respond if Drake came at him but I really, really hope he does. Someone's gotta do it, one time for the culture.

[Jukeman]

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I’m the biggest Pusha fan going back to early 2000’s Pusha is not lyrical either. I’ve been highly disappointed in his solo projects. The absence of Malice (No Malice) have been noticeable. He’s the lyricist and have been writing most of Clipse stuff.

He’s bodied because everything Drake said was a fact. Pusha really can’t say anything about Drake that hasn’t been said before...


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[J_Posse]

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Not to jump in on a convo that is already in progress, but I gotta disagree about Pusha's solo projects.

Haven't fully heard the new one, but his two mixtapes (Fear of God & Wraith of Cane) and two LP's prior (My Name is My Name & King Push: DBD Prelude) all have more gems than duds.

Also, clearly Push is exxagarating with the level of the drug game he was in. Or did people really take all the rhymes Lil Wayne, Juelz Santana, Future, T.I., Kool G Rap, Jay - Z, Notorious B.I.G., Scarface or any rapper that spits about drugs as gospel?

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And he can talk plenty of **** because we don't know what other dirt people have on Drake, Young Money, Lil Wayne, etc.

Every line he spit way back then on "Exodus" was truth and pretty sure he knows even more "industry secrets."

Anyway, I like both artist and it is nice to see lyrical beef actual matter. Nobody is talking about killing or any bull**** like that. Just bars and lyrics....

I guess Hip - Hop needs fact checkers now to make sure everything these people rhyme about is factual.....

Did 50 really kill all those people on his first LP, did Too $hort pimp all those broads on Cocktails and did Redman smoke all that weed on Muddy Waters?

I'll assemble the team to find out.....

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[J_Posse]

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Anyway, it's nice to see Stalley reemerge with dope music. Just caught his "Tell The Truth Shame The Devil" trilogy and the dude has still got bars.

The mainstream isn't his lane, but I think he can find a great niché like Budden and Royce did after losing major label deals.

https://youtu.be/o_UqC0YjruA

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[DieHardYankee26]

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He’s bodied because everything Drake said was a fact. Pusha really can’t say anything about Drake that hasn’t been said before...


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Drake is B Rabbit now? The only stuff he said to Push is the same stuff he said on Two Birds One Stone, so if you can't repeat in beef the whole song is moot. It's a fact that Push isn't top 5 at GOOD Music? Drake talking about not holding people back given the OVO sweatshop jokes?

I actually think Drake is a fairly easy target but not in the sense that his status will be affected.