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  • Beantown
    #DoYourJob
    • Feb 2005
    • 31523

    #136
    Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

    Originally posted by DirrtySouth78
    Don't believe Locke is truly dead, but don'tknow where they going with that.
    Best thing I can think of, is, that he had to "die" in order to get everyone back to the Island. However, once they get back to the Island, Ben will probably bring Locke back to it and bam...he'll be alive.

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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #137
      Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

      Originally posted by Longhorn
      Best thing I can think of, is, that he had to "die" in order to get everyone back to the Island. However, once they get back to the Island, Ben will probably bring Locke back to it and bam...he'll be alive.
      I can't remember the exact quote, but Ben said something to Jack that made it seem like Locke wasn't exactly dead. I mean, he's dead, but Ben had a weird reaction to Jack mentioning this to him. It was during the time they discussed what would happen to the casket.

      But, yea, I think it's exactly like you say. We've seen dead people pop up on the Island. I'm sure once Locke is back there, he'll be alive too.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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      • soltrain
        The Batman
        • Feb 2003
        • 6863

        #138
        Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

        Originally posted by DirrtySouth78

        Hurley IMO just has a guilt trip about constantly lying to everyone. He seems to know they have to go back to island but don't know who to trust of how to go about it so just has a moment. Hears different things from different people and confuses him. We also don't know who Besides Charlie has visited him and talked to him. Echo played chess but did he say anything to him? Sayid said not to trust ben no matter what and thats why he gave himself up.

        I think Ben wanted Hurley to give himself up. Ben knew Hurley would not listen to anything he told him to do.
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        • Miles_Yuhas
          MVP
          • Mar 2004
          • 2689

          #139
          Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

          Originally posted by soltrain
          I think Ben wanted Hurley to give himself up. Ben knew Hurley would not listen to anything he told him to do.
          I disagree that with that, but i do think that Ben will find a way to use the situation to use advantage and convince Hurley to come back. Now that he has been arrested for 3 murders, what does he have to lose. He'll go back to the island.

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28960

            #140
            Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

            Originally posted by soltrain
            I think it's Rossou's group.
            They look like they're from the 1950's to me, their dress made them look too old to be Rossou's group IMO.
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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #141
              Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

              Good catch. Did some research and lostpedia says that production listed the time period as
              Spoiler
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • poster
                All Star
                • Nov 2003
                • 7506

                #142
                Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                I always forget about the Lostpedia recaps, they are really well laid out and informative. After reading them, I better understand what is going on at the moment.

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                • dossier
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2272

                  #143
                  Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                  Originally posted by Miles_Yuhas
                  I disagree that with that, but i do think that Ben will find a way to use the situation to use advantage and convince Hurley to come back. Now that he has been arrested for 3 murders, what does he have to lose. He'll go back to the island.
                  I think Ben will just somehow manipulate the system or act as an authority figure and move him to a "new prison" (The island)

                  I really hope they bring charlie back, too good of an actor and character.

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                  • Coug00
                    LOB
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3476

                    #144
                    Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                    Originally posted by dossier
                    I really hope they bring charlie back, too good of an actor and character.
                    Don't count on it. Monaghan wanted off the show. Some of the deaths were pre-planned, but some of them were due to the actors wanting off the show. Mira Furlan (Rousseau) and the guy who played Eko are others who had Island Fever and needed out.
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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28960

                      #145
                      Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                      Yeah, neither Eko's or Rousseau's death made much sense, it was kinda easy to see they were written off for that reason. It's too bad Eko couldn't have been a long-standing character on the show, he was fun.
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                      • fistofrage
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 13682

                        #146
                        Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                        Originally posted by ehh
                        Yeah, neither Eko's or Rousseau's death made much sense, it was kinda easy to see they were written off for that reason. It's too bad Eko couldn't have been a long-standing character on the show, he was fun.
                        How many season 2 people are left? Thats my main problem with season 2, all those silly flashbacks that have absolutely no consequence on the show. Ecko, Lou Chia Pet, Libbey, flight attendant lady. Some of it was off set behavior that you really can't predict, but when a character like Echo just wants off the show, thats just plain unfortunate for the fans and the story line.
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                        • aukevin
                          War Eagle, Go Braves!
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 14700

                          #147
                          Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                          Originally posted by fistofrage
                          How many season 2 people are left? Thats my main problem with season 2, all those silly flashbacks that have absolutely no consequence on the show. Ecko, Lou Chia Pet, Libbey, flight attendant lady. Some of it was off set behavior that you really can't predict, but when a character like Echo just wants off the show, thats just plain unfortunate for the fans and the story line.
                          Benard and Cindy the flight attendant is all I can think of. I guess those two kids The Others stole are still around as well.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #148
                            Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                            Originally posted by poster
                            I always forget about the Lostpedia recaps, they are really well laid out and informative. After reading them, I better understand what is going on at the moment.
                            I also read the entire breakdown of both episodes and they do a great job of recapping every single important facet of the show.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • fistofrage
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 13682

                              #149
                              Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                              Why isn't there a huge concerted effort to get Walt back on the island? The oceanic 6 is really the oceanic 7 with Walt. Where's Walt at? Living with his Grandma or is he playing Division 1 B-ball now that he's 7 feet tall?

                              What about Michael, he died on the freighter, right? Why doesn't his body have to get back to the island.
                              Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #150
                                Re: *** LOST: Season 5 Discussion***

                                This is the thing with the entire plot... by making claims such as "The island doesn't want that" you can say that as an explanation for anything.

                                Perhaps it is not necessary for Walt to get off the island. I think it's possible we may either 1) never get an explanation for Walt's connection to the island or 2) have him be some ridiculous surprise as we near the conclusion of the series.
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