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  • Miles_Yuhas
    MVP
    • Mar 2004
    • 2689

    #91
    Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

    Originally posted by The Chef
    Well here is a front page article on yahoo that actually mentions that the show could just be canceled outright.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100108/...us_tv_jay_leno
    Interesting. I guess that Conan being pushed back to 12:05 wouldn't be to bad...

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    • bkfount
      All Star
      • Oct 2004
      • 8467

      #92
      Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

      Originally posted by Lintyfresh85
      What? Does Leno run NBC? A talent doesn't get to choose what time slot he wants his show to run. He doesn't have a say at all as to whether or not his show runs at 11:30, or, if he even stays on the air at all.
      lol...Leno's ego basically ****ed NBC. He said he'd retire to avoid the drama that happened when he took the show over. The wheels of succession started turning, only for Leno to change his mind when it came time to step down. That forced NBC's hand, and they made the compromise.

      Leno's new show bombed, and was hurting Conan's show just by existing. Leno got the better guests, destroyed the lead in ratings, and made Conan redundant as the 2nd show of the night.

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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #93
        Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

        Leno's manipulations and such at NBC makes me believe that book that was written about the Carson Succession even more (I forget the name of the book) Leno seems to be a real bastard in real life.

        Oh well, I hope Conan says "eff you!" and leaves NBC.
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        • MC Fatigue
          Banned
          • Feb 2006
          • 4150

          #94
          Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

          Originally posted by TheMatrix31
          TMZ is a pretty reliable source. They break EVERYTHING nowadays.
          Yup - TMZ is very reliable these days. They had all the death reports hours before any other site got their own information on it. Not sure why people are saying they aren't reliable. They may be trash news, but they're very reliable.

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          • TimmeH
            Cult of Personality
            • Jun 2003
            • 4588

            #95
            Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

            I don't know the contract details, such as no-compete clauses or whatever...but if Conan ended up without a network, I fully expect him on Fox or ABC going head-to-head with Leno within two months.
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            • Gibbz
              All Star
              • Aug 2005
              • 8240

              #96
              Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

              Did anyone watch it tonight? Aziz Ansari is so ****ing hilarious.

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              • MassNole
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 18848

                #97
                Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                Because it is his fault......

                His selfishness sabotaged Conan from the beginning.

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                • eXperiment63
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3077

                  #98
                  Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                  Originally posted by bkfount
                  Leno's new show bombed, and was hurting Conan's show just by existing. Leno got the better guests, destroyed the lead in ratings, and made Conan redundant as the 2nd show of the night.
                  Leno is averaging more than 3M more viewers a night than Conan... I wouldn't say Leno bombed in comparison to Conan. And don't blame it on guests, as Conan has had plenty of great guests.

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                  • bkfount
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 8467

                    #99
                    Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                    Originally posted by eXperiment63
                    Leno is averaging more than 3M more viewers a night than Conan... I wouldn't say Leno bombed in comparison to Conan. And don't blame it on guests, as Conan has had plenty of great guests.
                    Leno is in primetime, and his ratings are poor enough for affiliates to complain about it killing their local news. It is such an outright failure of a show that NBC wants to push it back AND cut it down to 30 minutes. All this while still making Conan's show look 2nd and less important.

                    If Conan doesn't work on The Tonight Show, then he doesn't work. I always wondered if he'd translate to that slot myself, but it's not like NBC gave him a fair shot either. NBC is just screwing themselves with how they've managed all this.
                    Last edited by bkfount; 01-09-2010, 02:52 PM.

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                    • MassNole
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 18848

                      #100
                      Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                      <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703481004574646660133894126.html?m od=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories">Conan O'Brien Mulls Jump to Rival Network - WSJ.com</a>

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                      • eXperiment63
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 3077

                        #101
                        Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                        Originally posted by bkfount
                        Leno is in primetime, and his ratings are poor enough for affiliates to complain about it killing their local news. It is such an outright failure of a show that NBC wants to push it back AND cut it down to 30 minutes. All this while still making Conan's show look 2nd and less important.
                        I'm not saying Leno's show is doing great by any means, but it IS averaging 6M a night. Conan is averaging 2M; Leno averaged the same in that slot as he is in his new one. That is a 4M viewer swing from one season of The Tonight Show to the next, so yeah, this falls on Conan as well.

                        Conan IS less important to NBC than Leno. That is just how the cards are. Leno is more marketable, so he is more valuable to them. Leno wasn't even talking to other companies when NBC decided to open negotiations about a new series for him. There were whispers that another broadcaster would try and pick him up, so NBC overshot any bid there would have been.

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #102
                          Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                          If he goes to Fox, he could start at 11PM. As far as I know, all Fox stations have News at 10PM and usually some syndicated show or animated show at 11PM. At 11PM, he probably could get more people and even if people didn't watch the whole show, they could start there and then switch to Leno.

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                          • aukevin
                            War Eagle, Go Braves!
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 14700

                            #103
                            Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                            I liked Leno on the Tonight Show, so I hope he goes back to something like that. I wouldn't watch his new show because I don't like how it took away primetime shows.

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                            • Speedy
                              #Ace
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 16143

                              #104
                              Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                              I'm not surprised. Conan's material to me isn't funny and simply put very childish...
                              Originally posted by Gibson88
                              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #105
                                Re: Conan's Reign Begins - The Tonight Show

                                I know Conan isn't for everybody, but I think he is very creative and always seem to be having a good time. Leno is very generic to me.



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