LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Yeah, receiver itself is a BD player also.

I agree with blzer, but if the decision has already been made then make sure you get the extended warranty. Because if something goes bad, then not only are you out of a blu ray player but also the surround sound for all your gear.

If you're going to stick with a HTIB, I'd strongly consider getting one that has a dedicated receiver. (You'd have to get a stand alone blu ray player)

[Jet Sufferer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

So i have two more follow up questions and THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for the advice and just for this thread in general. I'm always on this site and trust the opinions. It is just handled nicely here.
I've sort of narrowed my decisions down but with a caveat. I'm scrapping the idea of the Vizio just because I keep reading too many horror stories even for their M series, so it's looking like two Sonys.
1.Sony KDL-55W802A which is 1500 from Best Buy
or
2.Sony KDL-55W900A which is 1999 from Best Buy

Seems like the only difference between the two is the 120 vs 240 refresh rate? Is it going to be something I really notice? They both have the best industry input lag according to Cnet. I'll be watching a lot of sports on this tv and games. Movies/Netflix as well but less than the other content.

Here is the caveat though. It keeps popping up to me that Plasma really still is superior to LED for both lag, motion, and everything and cheaper. I'm aware that what spooks people away from Plasma is mostly a thing of the past so should i really be looking at Plasma instead? The room isn't THAT bright in my living room and I do have shades to lower if it turned out to be a super bright day. Also, my favorite sport is hockey which normally is played in the evening anyway. If I get either of those two Sonys, am i basically sacrificing just for the heck of it when I can just get a Plasma instead? I'd want a "55 inch though which seems harder to come by. Help!

The KDL series has just about the lowest input lag you can find, the ST60 has some of the highest input lag. Just keep reading as many reviews as you can about all the TV's that interest you, then read some more, eventually you'll find the TV that matches what's important to you.

[Keirik]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

The KDL series has just about the lowest input lag you can find, the ST60 has some of the highest input lag. Just keep reading as many reviews as you can about all the TV's that interest you, then read some more, eventually you'll find the TV that matches what's important to you.

TV wise, i'm almost 99.9999% I'm going with the KDL. It's the best of both worlds for me and it's still a Sony, so although i'll pay a few more pennies, it's not an area i'd like to skimp on as compared to sound (just for me at least).

[authentic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I'm definitely willing to listen, even if it cost an extra 200-300 (considering i would still then need to buy a 3dd BD player) but what headache am i going to run into if i were to get the Samsung HTF6500 for 449?

To start off your only getting 2 Hdmi inputs. So if you ever decide to add anything else to your system your buying a Hdmi hub. You're also sacrificing sound quality in a big way. Don't let those high wattage numbers fool you. For htibs, they don't list the rms rating usually. 1000w peak Power is very weak. To give you an idea, 1000w in peak power is somewhere near 300-400w rms. Also, those speakers are difficult to replace and the receiver is the same way. You cannot swap out any of your components at any time. Your system is set from day 1. With the Polk system, you can buy those speakers individually and add a second sub if you ever wanted to. For 140 dollars more, in my opinion, it's a no brainer. You can also make the rears wireless on the Polk system with the rocket fish rear kit.


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[Keirik]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

To start off your only getting 2 Hdmi inputs. So if you ever decide to add anything else to your system your buying a Hdmi hub. You're also sacrificing sound quality in a big way. Don't let those high wattage numbers fool you. For htibs, they don't list the rms rating usually. 1000w peak Power is very weak. To give you an idea, 1000w in peak power is somewhere near 300-400w rms. Also, those speakers are difficult to replace and the receiver is the same way. You cannot swap out any of your components at any time. Your system is set from day 1. With the Polk system, you can buy those speakers individually and add a second sub if you ever wanted to. For 140 dollars more, in my opinion, it's a no brainer. You can also make the rears wireless on the Polk system with the rocket fish rear kit.


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Thanks for the info. I won't be adding anything to the system so i'm not that worried about the additions aspect. As for the power, i know they won't rock the house. Thats fine because the Onkyo and Bose system I have for the other entertainment system already does. This is supposed to be a minimalist system in my mind. Thanks!

[Keirik]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Picked up the TV today. KDL55W900A. Will post up some impressions in the coming weeks.

[WTF]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

My Projector arrived today!

Bad news, I still haven't finished the mudding/drywall in my mancave. Now I have to figure out if I want to get the BEHR Silver Screen paint, and paint a screen, or go w/a Carls Screen.

Even on an unfinished wall, with some light leaking in from outside,the picture was actually phenomonal. My wife was in awe when she came down and saw the picture taking up the entire wall, with great clarity.

I'm really looking forward to getting everything finished. Just sanded,and then threw another bit of "mud" on the wall, hopefully it'll get it as smooth as I want it. I have the paint,etc ready to go.

[authentic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Picked up the TV today. KDL55W900A. Will post up some impressions in the coming weeks.

I was just posting my suggestions. You got a top of the line led tv, just see a lot of buyers remorse when people combine an awesome tv with a subpar sound system, that's all...


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[Keirik]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I was just posting my suggestions. You got a top of the line led tv, just see a lot of buyers remorse when people combine an awesome tv with a subpar sound system, that's all...


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Oh I 100% appreciate all and any opinions. All good!

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

With a $500 budget:
Samsung BD-F5900 3D Blu Ray Player ($115 Samsung--Amazon)
Pioneer VSX-822K 5.1 Receiver ($200--Amazon)
Yamaha 5.1 Speaker set ($149--Amazon)
200 ft. of speaker wire ($20--Amazon) $10 if you get by with only 100ft. of speaker wire. Not sure you big your room is.
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less than $500 shippped from Amazon

For the same $500 I KNOW this will sound better than the Samsung HTIB you plan on getting (you'll also have 6 HDMI inputs vs. only 2)


If you're dead set on buying the whole thing in one box, make sure you get one with a dedicated receiver and active sub. Just buy the 3D blu ray player separate. You really really really don't want your blu ray player having to also drive the speakers. That's just asking for headaches down the road.

I'd highly suggest getting one of these systems :
http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S3500...=operasport-20

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YHT-497...=operasport-20

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-HT-S5400...=operasport-20

And whichever Samsung 3D blu ray player you want:
F5900 3D Player with WiFi http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BD-F59...=operasport-20

Don't forget $10 - $20 for speaker wire.


The picture below is the Problem I see with that system:


1) It uses proprietary inputs. You're stuck with what you have. Even if you don't plan on ever upgrading...you'll pay way more to replace a bad speaker because of the wiring. It will have to come from Samsung.

2) Only 2 HDMI inputs. Really? For almost 500? You get at least 4 from lower end $200 receivers.

3) It uses a passive sub. The sub in that HTIB is basically just another speaker. You really want a system that has a powered/"active" sub. Bass is important.

If you've read any of my older posts, you'll see I'm not against HTIBs as long as they have 3 things:
1) A dedicated receiver 2) Non-proprietary wiring 3) A active sub

The system you are considering fails on all 3 of those. And at close to $500 it seems like highway robbery for what you're actually getting.


Like you said, these are just suggestions. In the end, it's your money. Good luck.

[SuperBowlNachos]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Panasonic Plasma 60" $999 at Best Buy right now - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/viera-60...0s60&cp=1&lp=1

It's $1,300 on Amazon.

[mgoblue]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I'll also add that having a dvd (or blu-ray) player in the receiver is annoying in the future when you get a new receiver and still want a blu-ray player.

Having separate components is much better for down the line, when you want to use that blu-ray player in your kid's room 5 years from now.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Sad News is the Display World...

Panasonic to exit Plasma TV Panel business...

TOKYO (Reuters) - Panasonic Corp will pull out of the plasma television panel business by the end of the financial year to March 2014, sources familiar with the situation told Reuters, marking a key milestone in the long-term decline of Japan's TV industry.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/panasonic-exit-plasma-tv-panel-business-end-march-003316544--finance.html#JOUd5Mm

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Sad News is the Display World...

Panasonic to exit Plasma TV Panel business...



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/panasonic-e...e.html#JOUd5Mm

Sad news indeed. Plasma is all but finished. SMH

[Artman22]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Sad News is the Display World...

Panasonic to exit Plasma TV Panel business...



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/panasonic-e...e.html#JOUd5Mm

This is horrible news. After leaving LCD and going plasma I can't see myself going back. Plasmas have way better picture and inky blacks. Terrible news..