LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

lol.. did i talk to you on the phone last night and not my buddy? you guys said the same thing pretty much word for word lol..

we wouldn't use it much, esp at first since we would need all that stuff..

once we settle in, and everything in order, down the line i could always move that 50 from living room to the bed room and upgrade to 3d or whatever at that time. i think those s30's will be great for us now!!

Like Game says, Panny plasmas are some of the best. You can't go wrong with either Sammy or Panny plasma.

Plus you'll need to get a new HDMI cable, unless you have a 1.4 already which can be picked up for cheap.

I think the S30's will be fine for you. Just make sure to break these in properly the first 150-200 hours and just be careful with the gaming during those first set of break-in hours. I was such a neurotic when I first got my G20 and was worried about every little thing. LOL! I have gotten so much better since then.

[Fiddy]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Like Game says, Panny plasmas are some of the best. You can't go wrong with either Sammy or Panny plasma.

Plus you'll need to get a new HDMI cable, unless you have a 1.4 already which can be picked up for cheap.

I think the S30's will be fine for you. Just make sure to break these in properly the first 150-200 hours and just be careful with the gaming during those first set of break-in hours. I was such a neurotic when I first got my G20 and was worried about every little thing. LOL! I have gotten so much better since then.

do you have any links for the Pannys that could help me with the proper settings during the break in period?

my buddy has a dvd ill be able to use to get the colors etc to look good in the rooms they will be in. im gonna do that obviously after the break in period.

any suggestions on gaming settings at first? while in break in period? or will those settings be global so to speak?

sorry for all the questions.. lol.

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

do you have any links for the Pannys that could help me with the proper settings during the break in period?

my buddy has a dvd ill be able to use to get the colors etc to look good in the rooms they will be in. im gonna do that obviously after the break in period.

any suggestions on gaming settings at first? while in break in period? or will those settings be global so to speak?

sorry for all the questions.. lol.

On AVS, here is the official S30 thread......and you can ask in there. There aren't many posts since many people have been jumping on the ST30 as their entry level plasma for 3D.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1331381

[WTF]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Holy cow, I picked up a Samsung Plasma PN50C7000

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-pn50c7000/4505-6482_7-34005781.html

For the bedroom today for $837 at HHGregg and this thing has a BEAUTIFUL picture. Much better than my 55" LG LED. I haven't tried the 3D portion of it yet, but wow, what a tv. It was an open box, came from the warehouse with a damaged box and they had it marked for $1099, and ended up paying just at $900 after taxes.

VERY happy with this. I actually think it may replace my LED as my main tv.

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Holy cow, I picked up a Samsung Plasma PN50C7000

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-pn50c7000/4505-6482_7-34005781.html

For the bedroom today for $837 at HHGregg and this thing has a BEAUTIFUL picture. Much better than my 55" LG LED. I haven't tried the 3D portion of it yet, but wow, what a tv. It was an open box, came from the warehouse with a damaged box and they had it marked for $1099, and ended up paying just at $900 after taxes.

VERY happy with this. I actually think it may replace my LED as my main tv.

That's what I keep saying. I have the 63" C8000 which is a bump up from the C7000 and the picture is ridiculously good. I think the biggest difference from the 7000 to the 8000 is that the 8000 has a black filter and allows the user to turn off the "Motion Judder Cancellor". I watched part of one movie with the Motion Judder Cancellor set to "On - Smooth" and didn't like how it looked. It made everything look washed out IMO.

My family room is pretty bright during the day so having the black filter is perfect (even if I'm usually not home during the day to watch TV).

In any case, Samsung really did a great job with these sets. It's been 4-5 months since I bought mine and I couldn't be happier. Still haven't had one instance of IR on the TV either...and I've unintentionally let static images sit on the TV for as long as 45min.

3D is great on this thing as well. Just make sure to be in a completely dark room while watching.

[Fiddy]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

On AVS, here is the official S30 thread......and you can ask in there. There aren't many posts since many people have been jumping on the ST30 as their entry level plasma for 3D.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1331381

sweet.. ill take a look. thanks for the link!!

[WTF]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

That's what I keep saying. I have the 63" C8000 which is a bump up from the C7000 and the picture is ridiculously good. I think the biggest difference from the 7000 to the 8000 is that the 8000 has a black filter and allows the user to turn off the "Motion Judder Cancellor". I watched part of one movie with the Motion Judder Cancellor set to "On - Smooth" and didn't like how it looked. It made everything look washed out IMO.

My family room is pretty bright during the day so having the black filter is perfect (even if I'm usually not home during the day to watch TV).

In any case, Samsung really did a great job with these sets. It's been 4-5 months since I bought mine and I couldn't be happier. Still haven't had one instance of IR on the TV either...and I've unintentionally let static images sit on the TV for as long as 45min.

3D is great on this thing as well. Just make sure to be in a completely dark room while watching.

From what I understand, Samsung fixed the Motion Judder thing with my set as well. I just need to apply the firmware update. I did some research, and the "fix" is available from Sammy's site.

The more I look at this tv, the more I like it. It's as thin as my LED too, which is awesome. The brushed aluminum panel is VERY slick looking, very aesthetically pleasing.

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

From what I understand, Samsung fixed the Motion Judder thing with my set as well. I just need to apply the firmware update. I did some research, and the "fix" is available from Sammy's site.

The more I look at this tv, the more I like it. It's as thin as my LED too, which is awesome. The brushed aluminum panel is VERY slick looking, very aesthetically pleasing.

I did test it after the latest firmware release which supposedly fixed it. I only watched part of one movie that was on TV - "War of the Worlds" - and didn't like the way the MJC made everything look un-natural...oddly enough I felt it looked more jerky with MJC on than with it off. I've read other people that love it so it's simply a matter of taste. There actually is a way to make the C7000 have the same menu as the C8000 with the ability to disable MJC, but it's a service menu hack. AVS has the hack somewhere.

I definitely love the look of the TV. Very thin and love the clear edge that surrounds the display. Just a great looking TV aesthetically and in terms of image quality.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Plasma gives the best picture quality, IMO.

full array LED is a close second.

[WTF]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I did test it after the latest firmware release which supposedly fixed it. I only watched part of one movie that was on TV - "War of the Worlds" - and didn't like the way the MJC made everything look un-natural...oddly enough I felt it looked more jerky with MJC on than with it off. I've read other people that love it so it's simply a matter of taste. There actually is a way to make the C7000 have the same menu as the C8000 with the ability to disable MJC, but it's a service menu hack. AVS has the hack somewhere.

I definitely love the look of the TV. Very thin and love the clear edge that surrounds the display. Just a great looking TV aesthetically and in terms of image quality.

Would it be this one:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18482775&posted=1#post18482775

I've been reading for the past 20 minutes on this. Not sure I want to do it, but may do it. I'm watching Spurs & Grizzlies on the set right now, running back and forth between the bedroom & living room, to see the difference in the Picture Quality.

I swear, the Plasma is the MUCH better tv. It could be because it's the new toy, but seriously, this is nice. Blacks are very nice, speakers are better than my LED, remote is very functional, picture quality is just better.

Looks like I may now be a Plasma converted fan.

Do you think it's worth updating to the 8000 over the 7000? I've read through the thread, but can't make heads or tails of it.

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Would it be this one:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18482775&posted=1#post18482775

I've been reading for the past 20 minutes on this. Not sure I want to do it, but may do it. I'm watching Spurs & Grizzlies on the set right now, running back and forth between the bedroom & living room, to see the difference in the Picture Quality.

I swear, the Plasma is the MUCH better tv. It could be because it's the new toy, but seriously, this is nice. Blacks are very nice, speakers are better than my LED, remote is very functional, picture quality is just better.

Looks like I may now be a Plasma converted fan.

Do you think it's worth updating to the 8000 over the 7000? I've read through the thread, but can't make heads or tails of it.

Yes, that's the thread. Honestly, if you don't mind the MJC being on all the time, I wouldn't bother with the service menu hack. Those that didn't like MJC, are the people who ran the service menu hack. While this service menu hack is pretty easy, it's always a bit nerve racking to change something in the SM.

I've always read that plasma still has the best picture. I don't have an LED, but I can't imagine much better PQ than my C8000. Even after 4-5 months, I still say "Wow" when watching different programs.

[WTF]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Yeah, that's me. I don't know if its worth it. I don't really see the judder, so it probably wouldn't effect me much. I am curious about the Day/Night settings that it would allow my set to have though. I'm sure there's not a lot of other difference that I'd gain. I've never been into a TV Service Menu, and had never really planned on it, but if I can have a few more options that make since, I may do it in the future.

In the meantime, I've brought the plasma to the living room, and LED into the bedroom. Even for the 5" difference (Plasma is a tad smaller) I am able to see a big enough picture disparity to prefer the smaller set in the living room.

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Yeah, that's me. I don't know if its worth it. I don't really see the judder, so it probably wouldn't effect me much. I am curious about the Day/Night settings that it would allow my set to have though. I'm sure there's not a lot of other difference that I'd gain. I've never been into a TV Service Menu, and had never really planned on it, but if I can have a few more options that make since, I may do it in the future.

In the meantime, I've brought the plasma to the living room, and LED into the bedroom. Even for the 5" difference (Plasma is a tad smaller) I am able to see a big enough picture disparity to prefer the smaller set in the living room.

Will, plasma is the way to go man. When I first started this thread I was looking at LCD's and wound up with a plasma. I bought the 50" Panasonic G20 which has THX, and now that we moved all of our stuff back downstairs about 1.5 months ago I wish I had a bigger set. LOL! That extra 5-10" of real estate make a difference so I think my next set will be 59/60".

Glad you are enjoying the C7000, I've heard its a mighty fine TV. The C8000 that Mike has is very badass set. I can't believe too how thing these sets are and they are getting very close to LED thinness which is nuts for a plasma. I just can't see myself ever going back from plasma unless the technology dies out or morphs into something else. For the price and quality of TV, it can't be beat. We don't watch much SD, but plasma's do a great job at broadcasting SD signals. Plus, getting a 3D set is the way to go for plasma even if you do not use the 3D, because they offer the best 3D picture you can get.

Have fun man with the new purchase......I've had my plasma for 4.5 months now and my jaw still drops to the floor at times. We watched Die Hard 4 BD the other day and for a movie a few years old, it looked very good.

[Fiddy]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

friends and family today at Sears..

[WTF]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Ahhh, oh no. Ah well, I got a good enough deal. Post any of your scores today guys.