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  • Giants4Natic
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    • Oct 2010
    • 2475

    #1291
    Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

    Originally posted by Pared
    Ha - I read through this thread and already know my answer, but what the hell.

    Samsung PN51D7000 or UN47D7000?
    It all depends on what you are mostly into Pared.

    If you watch tons of sports and movies then Plasma is the way to go

    If you like to use your laptop on your tv and play tons of games and have a room with a lot of ambient light then the LED is the better choice.

    I have the PN59D7000 and it is an amazing set rated the best overall package by CNET

    Colors are the best and blacks are inky. The issue that I did have is that the madden score bar on the top was left on my screen even though I never paused the game for a long time

    It has taken me almost a month an a half to get rid of it mostly by running the slides and the pixel orbiter from time to time.

    Plasmas are darker in terms of brightness compared to LED's but no question that the Plasma is the better tv of the 2 you mentioned, and I think cheaper in price

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    • bigfnjoe96
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2004
      • 11410

      #1292
      Originally posted by Pared
      Ha - I read through this thread and already know my answer, but what the hell.

      Samsung PN51D7000 or UN47D7000?
      Brand Loyalty or you open to another company?

      Sent from my Awesome Phone

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      • tripwire
        MVP
        • Sep 2002
        • 2604

        #1293
        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

        Originally posted by Pared
        Ha - I read through this thread and already know my answer, but what the hell.

        Samsung PN51D7000 or UN47D7000?
        Go with the Plasma option between those two

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #1294
          Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

          Originally posted by tripwire
          Go with the Plasma option between those two
          I appreciate the reply but that doesn't help me. Any reason why?

          Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
          Brand Loyalty or you open to another company?

          Sent from my Awesome Phone
          Just two sets that I really like. Open to suggestions for sure.

          Originally posted by Giants4Natic
          It all depends on what you are mostly into Pared.

          If you watch tons of sports and movies then Plasma is the way to go

          If you like to use your laptop on your tv and play tons of games and have a room with a lot of ambient light then the LED is the better choice.

          I have the PN59D7000 and it is an amazing set rated the best overall package by CNET

          Colors are the best and blacks are inky. The issue that I did have is that the madden score bar on the top was left on my screen even though I never paused the game for a long time

          It has taken me almost a month an a half to get rid of it mostly by running the slides and the pixel orbiter from time to time.

          Plasmas are darker in terms of brightness compared to LED's but no question that the Plasma is the better tv of the 2 you mentioned, and I think cheaper in price
          IR is the only thing swaying me towards the UN. I really don't want to be bothered with being concerned about the issue. Considering I'm obsessive to a fault at times it's something I really need to consider.

          I appreciate the honesty. That was my number one concern - I game 50% of the time on this set and just love the over-saturation the UN provides as well.

          I guess I was just torn b/c the PN was cheaper. The 240Hz option on the LED seems to be sufficient enough from what I've seen on demo units yesterday (football).

          Still up in the air though.
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          • Giants4Natic
            Banned
            • Oct 2010
            • 2475

            #1295
            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

            Originally posted by Pared
            I appreciate the reply but that doesn't help me. Any reason why?



            Just two sets that I really like. Open to suggestions for sure.



            IR is the only thing swaying me towards the UN. I really don't want to be bothered with being concerned about the issue. Considering I'm obsessive to a fault at times it's something I really need to consider.

            I appreciate the honesty. That was my number one concern - I game 50% of the time on this set and just love the over-saturation the UN provides as well.

            I guess I was just torn b/c the PN was cheaper. The 240Hz option on the LED seems to be sufficient enough from what I've seen on demo units yesterday (football).

            Still up in the air though.

            Well the IR is not on all sets since I seem to be the only one that has seen it from other forums I visit about tv's

            Like BFJ stated, other options are good to like Panasonic but their colors are not as good as the Samsungs

            Other things to consider when it comes to plasma is that they provide incredible uniformity unlike the LED plus input lag is far less of an issue on the plasma version compared to the LED version.

            Over saturated colors are nice for gaming and I feel you on that but the Samsung set offers realistic colors for most o your daily needs including Blu Ray movies which look absolutely incredible

            Ambient light is also key since plasmas really look their best in dark rooms but LED can look great in day or night.

            The 240hz is still going to cause a bit of motion blur from time to time in fast paced scenes unlike the plasmas which do not suffer from that.

            Another negative on the plasma is that it has the infamous floating blacks or brightness pops from time to time when scenes go from dark to light. Very annoying at times and this is done on purpose by Samsung to meet the energy regulations.

            I do not believe this is an issue with the LED.

            Regardless I am sure you will love both sets as they are made by a top flight company

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            • bigfnjoe96
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 11410

              #1296
              Originally posted by Pared

              Just two sets that I really like. Open to suggestions for sure.
              What's your budget?

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #1297
                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                No real budget - looking for the best bang for my buck, always.

                I want to stay in the 46-55" range. I'm very particular about my set size so I don't want to "go big or go home" for the hell of it.

                Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                Well the IR is not on all sets since I seem to be the only one that has seen it from other forums I visit about tv's

                Like BFJ stated, other options are good to like Panasonic but their colors are not as good as the Samsungs

                Other things to consider when it comes to plasma is that they provide incredible uniformity unlike the LED plus input lag is far less of an issue on the plasma version compared to the LED version.

                Over saturated colors are nice for gaming and I feel you on that but the Samsung set offers realistic colors for most o your daily needs including Blu Ray movies which look absolutely incredible

                Ambient light is also key since plasmas really look their best in dark rooms but LED can look great in day or night.

                The 240hz is still going to cause a bit of motion blur from time to time in fast paced scenes unlike the plasmas which do not suffer from that.

                Another negative on the plasma is that it has the infamous floating blacks or brightness pops from time to time when scenes go from dark to light. Very annoying at times and this is done on purpose by Samsung to meet the energy regulations.

                I do not believe this is an issue with the LED.

                Regardless I am sure you will love both sets as they are made by a top flight company
                Yeah I'm not really keen on the Panasonic's despite their reviews. Nothing impressed me about them but again, I've admitted to having a soft spot for the increased saturation of the LED's.

                I've seen the motion blur ever. so. slightly. on the UN model. This was while watching football yesterday. I have a good eye for details so I can see that immediately. I did read as long as you have a 240Hz model it can be minimized via settings.

                To be honest, I see the raves from Plasma owners but I see just as equal the fear of IR. The LED owners of the UN model seem to not have an issue with this, from what I've read (or at least it's not noticeable).

                If you can't tell by now I'm leaving towards the UN (actually just going back and forth with a slight preference for the LED). I can be sold on Plasma, just don't know if the buzzing, heat, and IR are worth the extra inches and concern for the savings.

                I'm completely undecided despite the fact that I say I'm not.
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                • Giants4Natic
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2475

                  #1298
                  Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                  Originally posted by Pared
                  No real budget - looking for the best bang for my buck, always.

                  I want to stay in the 46-55" range. I'm very particular about my set size so I don't want to "go big or go home" for the hell of it.



                  Yeah I'm not really keen on the Panasonic's despite their reviews. Nothing impressed me about them but again, I've admitted to having a soft spot for the increased saturation of the LED's.

                  I've seen the motion blur ever. so. slightly. on the UN model. This was while watching football yesterday. I have a good eye for details so I can see that immediately. I did read as long as you have a 240Hz model it can be minimized via settings.

                  To be honest, I see the raves from Plasma owners but I see just as equal the fear of IR. The LED owners of the UN model seem to not have an issue with this, from what I've read (or at least it's not noticeable).

                  If you can't tell by now I'm leaving towards the UN (actually just going back and forth with a slight preference for the LED). I can be sold on Plasma, just don't know if the buzzing, heat, and IR are worth the extra inches and concern for the savings.

                  I'm completely undecided despite the fact that I say I'm not.

                  Sounds like you made up your mind...

                  But in all honesty I would choose the plasma because it is a better tv then the LED.

                  But it seems that you are in love with the LED for what it offers which is still a darn good picture.

                  The PN51D7000 is a top of the line set...There is no debating that part

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                  • bigfnjoe96
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 11410

                    #1299
                    Pared right now Sony might be a better bet if you go LED. I also would take a look @ Toshiba since they have very good gaming response times & great motion software.

                    The UN is a good TV, but it suffers from clouding & flashing due to it being an Edge Lit LED.

                    When I get home I'll put up some links to some possible choices for you

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                    • NC State-31 UNC-27
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1525

                      #1300
                      Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                      Blzr sounds like we have the same buzz issue. Mine is horrible from dead center and I can hear it along with the sound at normal levels. It's a very unpleasant buzz, with some rattling/static sound to it. But if I position my head to one side of the TV or lay down so my head is under it, I don't hear it anymore.

                      For $1500 it bothers me. If I could mount the TV higher I would be fine, but I'm in an apt.

                      Also I've had zero IR on this TV at all and I really didn't worry about it any from the first day. Never seen one ounce of it

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                      • Pared
                        Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 39337

                        #1301
                        Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                        Cool. I just checked out the KDL46HX820 very quickly and it seemed like a nice set.

                        I'll have to go see this one in person.

                        Guess I'm not buying a TV today. Was going to go pick up one of those two today but may have to hold off. The smarter side of me is telling me wait until Cyber Monday and the impulse side of me is saying, "Buy now, fool!"
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                        • bigfnjoe96
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 11410

                          #1302
                          Originally posted by Pared
                          Cool. I just checked out the KDL46HX820 very quickly and it seemed like a nice set.

                          I'll have to go see this one in person.

                          Guess I'm not buying a TV today. Was going to go pick up one of those two today but may have to hold off. The smarter side of me is telling me wait until Cyber Monday and the impulse side of me is saying, "Buy now, fool!"
                          Cyber Monday is a good idea. You also can buy now & try a price match if that set goes on sale on Cyber Monday.

                          As for the Sony HX, it is a nice set.

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42515

                            #1303
                            Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                            Originally posted by NC State-31 UNC-27
                            Blzr sounds like we have the same buzz issue. Mine is horrible from dead center and I can hear it along with the sound at normal levels. It's a very unpleasant buzz, with some rattling/static sound to it. But if I position my head to one side of the TV or lay down so my head is under it, I don't hear it anymore.

                            For $1500 it bothers me. If I could mount the TV higher I would be fine, but I'm in an apt.

                            Also I've had zero IR on this TV at all and I really didn't worry about it any from the first day. Never seen one ounce of it
                            I just wonder if there's something I can do to fix this without having to switch out the television itself, even if I have to pay $100 for that fix (be it a service, new part, or what have you).

                            I still want to see what the surge protector might do with it, but I won't be getting one till next year since I couldn't get a down payment on the television.
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                            • GAMEC0CK2002
                              Stayin Alive
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 10384

                              #1304
                              Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              I just wonder if there's something I can do to fix this without having to switch out the television itself, even if I have to pay $100 for that fix (be it a service, new part, or what have you).

                              I still want to see what the surge protector might do with it, but I won't be getting one till next year since I couldn't get a down payment on the television.
                              Am I reading that right? You have your tv plugged directly into the wall outlet? If so, that's asking for trouble.

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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42515

                                #1305
                                Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

                                Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                                Am I reading that right? You have your tv plugged directly into the wall outlet? If so, that's asking for trouble.
                                Psh, you kidding? Only a fool would do that!

                                Nooo, I have it plugged into a multi-outlet strip.






                                Let it be known that this is the first time I had ever even heard of surge protectors before.
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