LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Do you know what Full Range RGB is? I'm not talking about its look, I'm merely speaking by definition.

If you did, you might want to know that, even if you had a Pioneer Kuro 9G, Full Range RGB is not something you'd necessarily be looking into for gaming, and especially not for watching movies. It's mostly used for PC purposes.

Oh so thats why my tv was looking like that. I notice the difference between dark grey and blacks now. before all greys looked black. I also use Game Mode on my TV. Sorry for being a newb

[WildFan22]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Let me say this....u are playing russian roulette with your Plasma TV with gaming. Now, Supposedly.....Samsung is WORSE in-regards to image burning with Plasma. Panasonic is maybe the best, as the IR (image-retention) supposedly goes away most of the time. I would go with a Panasonic. Go to the AVS forum to find the best model.

I was talked into buying a plasma by the guys on this thread and it's been one of the best purchases I can remember making. I game 2-3 hours a night once the wife is asleep and I have never had any image retention after the first 150 hours. I had a little bit with the Madden ticker in the begining but it lasted 2-3 minutes.

For the first time my games look as good as the screenshots you see in magazines. I have had zero problems with the TV and I would recommend it to anyone. I went with the 42 panni 3D tv for $749. It was a steal at that price.

[Giants4Natic]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Plasma colors and black levels for gaming and movies on a samsung plasma is incredible.

Use the pixel shifter and no IR will happen. Simple as that

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Plasma colors and black levels for gaming and movies on a samsung plasma is incredible.

Use the pixel shifter and no IR will happen. Simple as that

I'm a huge plasma fan. You just have to be careful with it early on.

[55]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Let me say this....u are playing russian roulette with your Plasma TV with gaming. Now, Supposedly.....Samsung is WORSE in-regards to image burning with Plasma. Panasonic is maybe the best, as the IR (image-retention) supposedly goes away most of the time. I would go with a Panasonic. Go to the AVS forum to find the best model.

Shenanigans.

[Mr.Scarface]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Shenanigans.

LOL...i guess the people who have the problem are MAKING IT UP....lol. Go to the plasma section of the AVS forum. Some will say the IR goes away and some will say it never fully goes away. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance. To each, their own. Don't say you weren't warned.....

[Methlab]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I got an lg pv400 on sale. So fa it is awesome. 50 inch screen. Anyone have one of these or any tips for break in? I cant run slides at night, but my appletv runs them for when I am gone.

[mjb2124]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

LOL...i guess the people who have the problem are MAKING IT UP....lol. Go to the plasma section of the AVS forum. Some will say the IR goes away and some will say it never fully goes away. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance. To each, their own. Don't say you weren't warned.....

I think his point is that many of us have Plasma's and have no IR or Burn-In problems. Burn-In is virtually non-existent anymore...IR does happen, but will often go away by running a whitewash. Saying you're playing Russian Roulette is a tad misleading. It could happen, but isn't necessarily going to happen and with most newer plasma's, probably won't happen unless some form of neglect is involved.

AVS is also a decent place to gain knowledge, but there are a lot of "display supporters" who will trash another display because they have their favorite (ie: LED vs Plasma) - there could be some of that going on. Some of it might be true as well, but I can only go on my own experience and that of friends who have plasma's.

In my personal experience, I have had zero IR or Burn-In on my plasma (Samsung PN63C8000). I did run the break in slides while I was at work and overnight and watched regular TV programming while at home with low contrast/brightness for the first two weeks of the TV. I once left a video game paused for 30-45 minutes because I let my dog out and wound up talking to my neighbor - completely forgot about the TV. I came in and was positive I'd see some IR, but nothing. IR and/or burn-in isn't even a concern for me anymore.

[jmood88]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

LOL...i guess the people who have the problem are MAKING IT UP....lol. Go to the plasma section of the AVS forum. Some will say the IR goes away and some will say it never fully goes away. Personally, I wouldn't take the chance. To each, their own. Don't say you weren't warned.....

People who have problems with burn-in either have an old/defective set or are treating their tv horribly.

[jrivera34]

Plasma colors and black levels for gaming and movies on a samsung plasma is incredible.

Use the pixel shifter and no IR will happen. Simple as that

Looking to get a Panasonic plasma early in 2012. What is the pixel shifter?

[Methlab]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I put the black noir settings on my tv and wow this thing looks great. Just a gorgeous picture.

Do I need to use game mode on it and just tweak the settings? I like the black noir because it does not fatigue my eyes, but I don't want input lag.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Looking to get a Panasonic plasma early in 2012. What is the pixel shifter?

Just as the feature says, it takes your entire screen and either horizontally or vertically shifts one pixel every X minutes, and will travel a Y amount of pixels before orbiting a different perpendicular direction.

So for instance, I have my television set to pixel-shift every two minutes, and it will go a total of four pixels in both the horizontal and vertical directions from center. I think what this actually means, really, is that it has a shifting range of 64 pixels (8x8), but I'm not sure.

This helps prevent burn-in and IR, since images, especially static logos, are never technically in the same place for any longer than two minutes at a time.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I put the black noir settings on my tv and wow this thing looks great. Just a gorgeous picture.

Do I need to use game mode on it and just tweak the settings? I like the black noir because it does not fatigue my eyes, but I don't want input lag.

I'm not sure what "black noir" is, but if it's a preset picture option, then if you enable Game Mode, there's a good chance you probably can't switch to that preset.

I mostly use Game Mode because I want my settings for games to look different than my settings for movies. It's slightly brighter, more vivid, and cooler in overall tone. Movies are warmer, pay more attention to shadow detail, and have different settings for motion. Game Mode is good because you can have different settings for each, plus you can have less input lag should you desire.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

People who have problems with burn-in either have an old/defective set or are treating their tv horribly.

Treating it horribly by not babysitting it? The main point of contention with people who don't want plasmas is they have to do any care and maintenance. It's a TV not a car. There's enough things in life that have to be maintained, a TV shouldn't have to be one of them.

To me (and to alot of others I would assume) is that the superior picture of a plasma (and with a good LED that is properly calibrated, it is barely noticeable these days) is not worth the extra care and nuturing required for a plasma in the break in period as well as using more power and the glare screens (which was my biggest turnoff with the plasma I had, unfortunately all my main floor rooms have those pesky windows.)

It's not a personal insult to plasma owners, I'm not sure why people seem to get personally offended when burn in is mentioned. It's a fact of life with these TVs that if you treat it like you do with a LED right out of the box there's a good chance you might have problems later on. LCD\LED owners don' get personally offended when plasma owners always mention they have the better pictue quality. They accept that but also realize theirs are maintenence free which is just as attractive to them especially when you have kids and relatives who could care less about nurturing a plasma when they want to watch the same channels all day long. If I buy a TV I should reserve the right to watch what I want when I want and for how long I want without worrying about having to run a pixel shifter or whatever the manufacturer puts in there for you to maintain.

[jmood88]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Treating it horribly by not babysitting it? The main point of contention with people who don't want plasmas is they have to do any care and maintenance. It's a TV not a car. There's enough things in life that have to be maintained, a TV shouldn't have to be one of them.

To me (and to alot of others I would assume) is that the superior picture of a plasma (and with a good LED that is properly calibrated, it is barely noticeable these days) is not worth the extra care and nuturing required for a plasma in the break in period as well as using more power and the glare screens (which was my biggest turnoff with the plasma I had, unfortunately all my main floor rooms have those pesky windows.)

It's not a personal insult to plasma owners, I'm not sure why people seem to get personally offended when burn in is mentioned. It's a fact of life with these TVs that if you treat it like you do with a LED right out of the box there's a good chance you might have problems later on. LCD\LED owners don' get personally offended when plasma owners always mention they have the better pictue quality. They accept that but also realize theirs are maintenence free which is just as attractive to them especially when you have kids and relatives who could care less about nurturing a plasma when they want to watch the same channels all day long. If I buy a TV I should reserve the right to watch what I want when I want and for how long I want without worrying about having to run a pixel shifter or whatever the manufacturer puts in there for you to maintain.

Not at all. I've already stated in this thread that I don't baby my tv at all, I just use common sense. I don't leave my tv on the same channel for 12 hours or leave a pause screen up when I'm not in my room. I also don't limit the amount of hours I play games, only watch full screen movies, use the pixel shifter, run slides, or any of that avs nonsense. I have accidentally left my tv on a static image overnight when I've fallen asleep and there wasn't any hint of burn-in.

I'm not offended if someone doesn't want a plasma but with so many people coming into this thread looking for advice, they shouldn't be worrying about things that are not real issues.