LCD or OLED? - The TV Thread

[Majingir]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Maybe there's something in the options/settings that can fix it? Cause the site you got it from(assuming you got it from the site you posted) does say 120HZ so it seems like it does support it, unless you got an older model or something(like LN5300) which just goes up to 60.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well it turns out the TV doesn't really have that 120HZ feature I was looking for so I'm going to be returning it. When I called LG, they're talking about the 120HZ is "already installed" into the tv and it scales itself up to 120HZ when needed. However, when I click info on the remote, it says 60HZ no matter what I'm watching.

It's going be a manual setting. It might be called something obscure like Motion Flow or Trumotion or something, but it will be there. Check all Picture settings and Setup settings, etc.

[wrestlinggod1]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

To answer you both, I went through all of the settings and couldn't find the TruMotion options anywhere. I called LG to ask about this, and he was walking me through the menus to find the TruMotion option. When I wasn't able to find it, the person basically told me that the TV is set to 120hz when it is made at the factory and there's no options to change it. He also said that the TV has the "power to go up to 120hz", and it would change automatically from 60hz to 120hz depending on what's on the screen. I told him I was trying out the motion blur by playing FIFA on my PS4 that is connected with my HDMI cable, and he said that the 120hz wouldn't be on because the game probably doesn't support it. I couldn't fathom how the TV would be able to determine when to turn on the 120hz depending on what game I'm playing, so I called Amazon and they're sending a replacement because I believe I received either the wrong product, or an outdated version.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Maybe it's the wrong product, then.

120Hz will never be automatically set by the television itself, and you can always force it. It's like muting your speakers.

Personally, I don't like 120Hz for anything anymore. I used to argue that it was good for sports, but then I would catch the weird trails that I didn't like. Then I used to argue that it was good for games, but then I noticed there was worse input lag. In the end, I figured I only like plasma really for not having motion blur, and even my family plasma set has a 120Hz option that I really don't like.

[wrestlinggod1]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Maybe it's the wrong product, then.

120Hz will never be automatically set by the television itself, and you can always force it. It's like muting your speakers.

Personally, I don't like 120Hz for anything anymore. I used to argue that it was good for sports, but then I would catch the weird trails that I didn't like. Then I used to argue that it was good for games, but then I noticed there was worse input lag. In the end, I figured I only like plasma really for not having motion blur, and even my family plasma set has a 120Hz option that I really don't like.

Hopefully this TV won't have that problem because I'll be really disappointed.

[Blzer]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Hopefully this TV won't have that problem because I'll be really disappointed.

120Hz is the process of creating artificial frames, it can't not happen.

I don't mean "trails," I just meant the soap opera effect in general. It's the kind of effect where like it will look like the background is at a standstill and then foreground will have its own movement. I even mean that with a football player running and the grass being behind him in the shot.

Go to Best Buy and demo a TV with 120Hz vs. 60Hz with multiple types content sources, and decide if 120Hz is something that you actually like. Normally it sells in stores because it gives off that "truer than real life" feel (just like blue whites and sharpened edges and such), but at home it just doesn't have the same sell IMO.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well it turns out the TV doesn't really have that 120HZ feature I was looking for so I'm going to be returning it. When I called LG, they're talking about the 120HZ is "already installed" into the tv and it scales itself up to 120HZ when needed. However, when I click info on the remote, it says 60HZ no matter what I'm watching.

Model Number?

[Stormyhog]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Maybe it's the wrong product, then.

120Hz will never be automatically set by the television itself, and you can always force it. It's like muting your speakers.

Personally, I don't like 120Hz for anything anymore. I used to argue that it was good for sports, but then I would catch the weird trails that I didn't like. Then I used to argue that it was good for games, but then I noticed there was worse input lag. In the end, I figured I only like plasma really for not having motion blur, and even my family plasma set has a 120Hz option that I really don't like.

I did the same thing had 120hz on all the time after awhile I turned it off as I hated the artifacts & soap opera effect it created. I would never go back to it now. At first your eyes have to adjust to it off because it does look stuttery but then that subsides the more you watch. I use game mode when I play video games so it's automatically off. I still debate if I should leave dynamic contrast & dynamic color on or off when playing games. I know it's a processing feature and it is off in game mode but the picture looks flatter & dull with it off.

[Seether4113]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Well it turns out the TV doesn't really have that 120HZ feature I was looking for so I'm going to be returning it. When I called LG, they're talking about the 120HZ is "already installed" into the tv and it scales itself up to 120HZ when needed. However, when I click info on the remote, it says 60HZ no matter what I'm watching.

The tv will display everything at 120 Hz (frames per second). There is no way to change that. When you are pressing the info button on the remote, that is showing what the input signal is coming in to the tv at. You will not see anything actually going into the tv at 120 Hz; you'll typically see 24, 30, 48, or 60. The tv then converts those frame rates to its native refresh rate of 120 Hz. The TruMotion setting that somebody mentioned changes how the tv processes the image to get from the input refresh rate to the tv's refresh rate (doubling frames, black frames, motion interpolation, etc...). Some of these methods will make the picture look smoother than others. If you turn TruMotion off, the tv will still display in 120 Hz; it will simply duplicate the frames to get it to 120 frames per second rather than interpolating them.

Does that make more sense than the way LG explained it? Your tv is 120 Hz, and everything you play on it will be displayed in 120 Hz.

EDIT: and the TruMotion setting should be in the Advanced picture settings (or something close to that). I don't believe it is available in the Dynamic picture mode. It's been a couple of years since I worked for LG so they may have changed the names for the menu sections a little.

[wrestlinggod1]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

Model Number?

42LN5400

The tv will display everything at 120 Hz (frames per second). There is no way to change that. When you are pressing the info button on the remote, that is showing what the input signal is coming in to the tv at. You will not see anything actually going into the tv at 120 Hz; you'll typically see 24, 30, 48, or 60. The tv then converts those frame rates to its native refresh rate of 120 Hz. The TruMotion setting that somebody mentioned changes how the tv processes the image to get from the input refresh rate to the tv's refresh rate (doubling frames, black frames, motion interpolation, etc...). Some of these methods will make the picture look smoother than others. If you turn TruMotion off, the tv will still display in 120 Hz; it will simply duplicate the frames to get it to 120 frames per second rather than interpolating them.

Does that make more sense than the way LG explained it? Your tv is 120 Hz, and everything you play on it will be displayed in 120 Hz.

EDIT: and the TruMotion setting should be in the Advanced picture settings (or something close to that). I don't believe it is available in the Dynamic picture mode. It's been a couple of years since I worked for LG so they may have changed the names for the menu sections a little.

Yes your way of explaining was understandable, but what I'm trying to say is, I don't believe that technology is in this TV. In terms of motion blur, everything looks the same. Whether I'm watching a movie on HBO or watching the USAMBT practice, there's no type of soap opera effect or anything. I feel like I paid for a larger version of my older tv which was a 32 inch Panasonic from 09 that had 60hz. The television is above average in terms of picture quality, but when there's a fast paced motion on the screen, it becomes a problem. When I go to Best Buy and look at the TVs, the 120hz and 60hz demo clearly shows the difference between the two as if it were night and day. This just isn't the case with my tv. I don't understand because when I see others review the TV, they speak highly of the TruMotion setting, but for some reason, I'm not getting the same experience. I truly believe that Amazon must have put the wrong TV in the box.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

42LN5400


Yes your way of explaining was understandable, but what I'm trying to say is, I don't believe that technology is in this TV. In terms of motion blur, everything looks the same. Whether I'm watching a movie on HBO or watching the USAMBT practice, there's no type of soap opera effect or anything. I feel like I paid for a larger version of my older tv which was a 32 inch Panasonic from 09 that had 60hz. The television is above average in terms of picture quality, but when there's a fast paced motion on the screen, it becomes a problem. When I go to Best Buy and look at the TVs, the 120hz and 60hz demo clearly shows the difference between the two as if it were night and day. This just isn't the case with my tv. I don't understand because when I see others review the TV, they speak highly of the TruMotion setting, but for some reason, I'm not getting the same experience. I truly believe that Amazon must have put the wrong TV in the box.

So yes, your TV is native 120HZ which is a good thing. Everything that comes in is converted to 120HZ. I'm attaching a link to a review of your TV and another link to some Calibrated settings

TV Review

http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lg-lcd-tv/lg-42ln5400.html

Calibrated Settings

http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lg-lcd-tv/lg-ln5400-picture-settings.html

The reviewer claims you should have a TruMotion Setting. The problem with your TV is, it doesn't offer the option to set Blur and Judder Options separately.

Those settings help reduce what your seeing. Again your display doesn't offer those options so when TruMotion is engaged you may get that Soap Opera Effect.

I suggest you leave it off and let the display do the interpolation.

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[wrestlinggod1]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

So yes, your TV is native 120HZ which is a good thing. Everything that comes in is converted to 120HZ. I'm attaching a link to a review of your TV and another link to some Calibrated settings

TV Review

http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lg-lcd-tv/lg-42ln5400.html

Calibrated Settings

http://reviews.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lg-lcd-tv/lg-ln5400-picture-settings.html

The reviewer claims you should have a TruMotion Setting. The problem with your TV is, it doesn't offer the option to set Blur and Judder Options separately.

Those settings help reduce what your seeing. Again your display doesn't offer those options so when TruMotion is engaged you may get that Soap Opera Effect.

I suggest you leave it off and let the display do the interpolation.

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That's the thing. The "Soap Opera Effect" never occurs and I don't think the interpolation is happening. There is no difference when watching sports, or watching a movie. As a matter of fact, the movies look gorgeous until movement occurs. The same as with sports. Also, with the calibration setting, I don't have an option for "ISF Expert 1."
My replacement just came in and after setting it up, it looks the same. I guess the TV just isn't offering what I was hoping for. It sucks because I'm not trying to get a huge TV because this is just for my bedroom. I'm just going to have to keep looking.
I'm down to one of these 3
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN40FH...6757875&sr=1-7
http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-M422i-B1...I2C1RHLKR3Z7LX
http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E400i-B2...6757117&sr=1-1

[TheBadazz]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I finally decided to replace my Sammy 46 DLP with this

http://www.sears.com/samsung-51inch-...adCell=REC_1_0

Put it on layaway only owe $140. Didn't need a smart TV, got a extra Roku box laying around. Will have it in time for the Bears! Only thing I hate is 2 HDMI inputs. Now my PS4 and Roku will be on a HDMI splitter http://www.ebay.com/itm/271325177298...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Hopefully it all works together.

[GAMEC0CK2002]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

That's the thing. The "Soap Opera Effect" never occurs and I don't think the interpolation is happening. There is no difference when watching sports, or watching a movie. As a matter of fact, the movies look gorgeous until movement occurs. The same as with sports. Also, with the calibration setting, I don't have an option for "ISF Expert 1."
My replacement just came in and after setting it up, it looks the same. I guess the TV just isn't offering what I was hoping for. It sucks because I'm not trying to get a huge TV because this is just for my bedroom. I'm just going to have to keep looking.
I'm down to one of these 3
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN40FH...=operasport-20
http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-M422i-B1...=operasport-20
http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-E400i-B2...=operasport-20

I'd go with the Sammy.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: Plasma or LCD? - The TV Thread

I finally decided to replace my Sammy 46 DLP with this

http://www.sears.com/samsung-51inch-...adCell=REC_1_0

Put it on layaway only owe $140. Didn't need a smart TV, got a extra Roku box laying around. Will have it in time for the Bears! Only thing I hate is 2 HDMI inputs. Now my PS4 and Roku will be on a HDMI splitter http://www.ebay.com/itm/271325177298...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Hopefully it all works together.

I have this TV in my bedroom right now. So far it's been really good. We watch about 1-2 hours of TV nightly on it.

We've watched different content (Cable, Netflix & Blu Ray movies) since we've had it and all the content has looked really nice.

This is all running OTB Movie Mode with some minor setting tweaks.

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