Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

[ExtremeGamer]

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Are any of the gaming stores/sites taking PS3 preorders? I'm excited about this system.

Try Toys R Us, they are probably your best best until EB/Gamestop figures out what they are doing.

[bigfnjoe96]

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Try Toys R Us, they are probably your best best until EB/Gamestop figures out what they are doing.

Just a heads-up, more than likely Toys R Us will be doing bundles, so be ready to shell-out some dough...

[CaptainZombie]

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Just a heads-up, more than likely Toys R Us will be doing bundles, so be ready to shell-out some dough...

$1,000+ maybe for the bundles.

[stiffarmleft]

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I called Toys R Us and was told they probably would not be taking pre-orders until the end of summer. I pre-ordered my 360 from there a couple months before release, so it makes sense.

[backbreaker]

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Sony's tilt controller and patent: 04/13/1999


http://v3.espacenet.com/textdoc?DB=E...QPN=JP11099284

As you can see the controller is from the PS1 days(evident by the lack of analog sticks), so when Sony says they have been working on this type of controller for a while, I think I will believe them.

[backbreaker]

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video of PS3 tilt sensor controller, it doesn't need an external sensor, its all in the controller.

http://reviews.cnet.com/E3_PS3_s_state_of_the_art_controller/4660-12331_7-6519205.html?tag=vid

[bigeastbumrush]

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video of PS3 tilt sensor controller, it doesn't need an external sensor, its all in the controller.

http://reviews.cnet.com/E3_PS3_s_sta...5.html?tag=vid

sweet. glad they kept the original PS1 layout. that was the most comfortable controller i've ever used. all the buttons were laid out in the right places.

good move

[bigfnjoe96]

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This is an excellent read here, especially the financial aspects of it all. I still believe Sony's initial numbers are wishful thinking at best however.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/709/709082p1.html

May 17, 2006 - With E3 come and gone, Sony has now played their biggest cards in the PS3-hand. Price point, launch date, and playable games all made their debut last week, and it'll be a pretty big surprise if we get another info dump of this magnitude before the Tokyo Game Show in late September and the actual system launch on November 17th. With most of the critical information now available, a far clearer picture of Sony and their plans for the PS3 becomes apparent.

To say that Sony is betting heavily on the success of the PS3 is an understatement. Over the past four years, the conglomerate's revenues have remained essentially flat, while operating profits have increased by only 3 percent. Though the total amount of money (revenue) that flowed into Sony last year was an impressive $67.94 billion dollars, their profit margins were a slim 1.65%, figures that reveal a giant corporation barely squeezing profits out of its many disparate holdings in consumer electronics, movies, music, and videogames. For a company that has long cited it's technology and consumer electronics divisions as bedrocks of stability, these numbers look weak compared to arch-rival Matsu****a Electric Industrial (Panasonic), which has seen it's operating profits more than triple in the same years Sony has managed only 3% growth.

In the heyday of the PlayStation and PlayStation 2, the videogame market was a cash cow for Sony and a much needed source of actual profits, rivaled only by the major successes of the Spiderman movies for contribution to profits. Sony's troubled music arm, razor thin margins in personal computers and general consumer electronics, and the need to play catch-up in LCD and plasma HDTV technology have all necessitated greater and greater reliance upon the PlayStation to keep the company rolling.

The coming year will be critical for Sony. The PlayStation 3 will be facing the heaviest challenge yet for dominance of the $25 billion videogame industry from Microsoft's Xbox 360 and Nintendo's Wii. Microsoft is already proclaiming a solid head-start with six-million consoles shipped, and the double threat of the low-cost but innovative Wii may succeed in bringing Nintendo's "disruption" strategy to success. On top of it all, Sony has embroiled itself in the next-generation DVD format war, challenging its many HD-DVD supporting consumer electronics competitors with the Blu-ray format.

The costs of fighting these battles will be high. In addition to the billions already spent in developing the Cell processor and the PS3's general architecture, Sony has announced that investors should expect the company's operating profits to fall by 48 percent in the fiscal year to March 2007 as the PS3's production and start-up costs force the videogame division to report massive losses.


Despite the challenges, if all goes Sony's way the PlayStation 3 will look like an excellent business decision. Senior Vice President Takao Yuhara spoke with reporters a few weeks ago and told them "The [PS3's] impact will be felt in all Sony's core businesses. Our movie division is also holding high hopes on Blu-ray. PS3's success is a concern for the Sony group as a whole." Indeed, the PS3's success may be the key to Blu-ray's victory over HD-DVD. The low-cost version of the PS3 will retail in America at $499, the same price as Toshiba's low-cost stand-alone HD-A1 HD-DVD player. Faced with a choice between competing formats, consumers may well decide that the PS3, and thus Blu-ray, is an excellent deal thanks to both its high-end gaming capabilities and high-def DVD support, as opposed to a similarly priced box that does nothing but play movies.

The most recent sales figures show that Toshiba has only sold a worldwide total of 7,500 HD-A1 units (1,500 in Japan, 6,000 in the US) and has plans to ship an additional 4,000 units "soon." While these were sell-out figures, the numbers pale in comparison to the 2 million PS3's Sony will ship on November 17, the additional 2 million that will ship by the end of the calendar year, and the extra 2 million units Sony promises to have produced by the end of the fiscal year in March 2007. Despite the fact that HD-DVD is available now, whereas the first stand-alone Blu-ray drives will not ship until late June, unless the HD-DVD supporting manufactures intend to pour money into manufacturing and perhaps begin selling at a loss, if the PS3 succeeds in selling out through the first six months of the console's availability, Sony stands a chance of steam-rolling the format war on the back of its videogame division.


The long-term benefits of a PS3 win would do a lot to put Sony back on top of the overall consumer electronics heap. Efficiencies of scale due to PS3 success would dramatically lower Sony's production costs of both Blu-ray drives and Cell Processor chips. Sony has long insisted the Cell Processor will be a cornerstone of its general consumer electronics and will eventually be found in many products other than the PS3. The chip is undoubtedly more powerful than what competitors like Matsu****a or Samsung will have available in-house, and if there are practical uses for such power, Sony may be able to put the hurt on its cost-leading competitors. In an interview with Reuters, Mizuho Investors Securities analyst Mitsuhiro Osawa commented: "Achieving volume production of Cell chips for the game console and then putting them in its digital electronic products is Sony's strategy. If Sony fails to sell PlayStation 3 in volume, this business model crumbles."

The success or failure of the PS3 will leave indelible medals or scars on all that is Sony. The company is risking their position as the dominant force in videogames, the outcome of the next-gen DVD format wars, the future of the Cell Processor as a uniting force in consumer electronics, the billions already spent in development, and the billions more that will be spent selling the console at a loss. With so much at stake, it's no surprise that a degree of skepticism surrounds Sony's business plan. Mitsushige Akino, Chief Fund Manager at Ichiyoshi Investment Management, gave Reuters his take on the situation: "Sony has been the winner in the game industry and I have no problem with that. But it appears that it is going to cost Sony an arm and a leg to defend that position. I wonder just how much return they can get from that."

The answer to that question will come with time. PS3 failure will be disaster, and even success could be squandered if Sony can't positively leverage such an outcome in many other markets. It'll be an exciting show without doubt, and it certainly speaks highly of the significance of the videogame market when giant corporations bet their very futures upon it.

[countryboy]

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Try Toys R Us, they are probably your best best until EB/Gamestop figures out what they are doing.

EB/Gamestop will start taking pre-orders at the end of September/First of October.

[countryboy]

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According to the latest EGM article and a rumor that has been floating around at work,(its rumors so take them for what they are worth) but it appears that the World of Warcraft series will make its jump to the PS3 next year and will be only for the PS3 and PC.


Also according to the same sources, it seems that Square Enix is going to remake Final Fantasy VII and put it on the PS3 sometime in the very near future.

[bryan_05]

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Also according to the same sources, it seems that Square Enix is going to remake Final Fantasy VII and put it on the PS3 sometime in the very near future.

How original!

[CaptainZombie]

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According to the latest EGM article and a rumor that has been floating around at work,(its rumors so take them for what they are worth) but it appears that the World of Warcraft series will make its jump to the PS3 next year and will be only for the PS3 and PC.


Also according to the same sources, it seems that Square Enix is going to remake Final Fantasy VII and put it on the PS3 sometime in the very near future.

FFVII remake would be sweet.

[countryboy]

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FFVII remake would be sweet.

I am hoping they do.

[CaptainZombie]

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How original!

A remake of FFVII will sell PS3's and you know it's true. We were promised remakes of FFVII, VIII, and IX for the PS2 but they never did recreate them.

[Rodster]

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A remake of FFVII will sell PS3's and you know it's true. We were promised remakes of FFVII, VIII, and IX for the PS2 but they never did recreate them.

It will sell to those who are willing to pay $600, for those who've said stop the insanity with the high price of the PS3 FF7 will do little to sway that group.