Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

[Rodster]

Re: Playstation 3 Information, hardware, games discussion Part II

so why criticize the people who are getting a PS3? i've heard it all from you're overpaying, to you're getting rammed without vaseline, etc., etc.

if you're looking at price, Both consoles and games are expensive. i mean come on now. you're telling me that 360 games at $60 a pop is cheap?

What the hell are you talking about, and who am I criticizing? I think you've got me confused with someone else cause I never made a comment regarding vaseline and the PS3 or overpaying.

I've said many times, the PS3's price was not an issue with me and I have enough money to buy 12 of them right now if they were available. My main bone with the PS3 right now are NO RUMBLE in the controller and the games i've seen shown don't blow me away and Sony hasn't made it's case to me that the PS3 is a better machine.

If you put my response in context to Dogg instead of performing selective reading I was defending the PS3.

[bigeastbumrush]

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What the hell are you talking about, and who am I criticizing? I think you've got me confused with someone else cause I never made a comment regarding vaseline and the PS3 or overpaying.

I've said many times, the PS3's price was not an issue with me and I have enough money to buy 12 of them right now if they were available. My main bone with the PS3 right now are NO RUMBLE in the controller and the games i've seen shown don't blow me away and Sony hasn't made it's case to me that the PS3 is a better machine.

If you put my response in context to Dogg instead of performing selective reading I was defending the PS3.

lol...did i say "Rodster, you're critizing people too much and you've said x, y & z"? relax a bit.

price and available options are legit beefs. it's just getting really stale because we all knew that the console would come with a high price tag. when the 360 came out, there were few if any complaints about the cost.

the one argument i refuse to give any credence to is the use of blu-ray format.

[Flawless]

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I don't know how reliable this source is

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171

Probably over some peoples heads, but this thread on B3D goes in-depth about this.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31255

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[ThaGenecyst]

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it surely went over my head, but i think oxm.uk debunked that article and said that photo was photoshopped.


that guy David Baumman is pretty knowledgable in the graphics department though... from what i know.

[Flawless]

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it surely went over my head, but i think oxm.uk debunked that article and said that photo was photoshopped.

The slide is legit.

that guy David Baumman is pretty knowledgable in the graphics department though... from what i know.

Yes, Dave B. is very knowledgeable, and so are quite a few more people on B3D.

[Spongedaddy]

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Wow I could not keep up with that article either. However, I expect the PS3 to have its share of faults along with the other consoles (I wonder how the Wii will do with those of us who have Carpal Tunnel). my biggest thing right now is that the PS3 does not justify the extra cost (for me) compared to the 360. Next year when Devil May Cry, FF, Ratchet etc come out I am almost certain I will be adding the PS3 to my household. I am also turned off by the arrogance of Sony. I expect these companies to be arrogant but they (especially Ken) seem a bit over the top right now.

Maybe these execs have some kind of strange arrogant cycles (like Nintendo saying gamers don't want to play online or Bill Gates wanting to rule the world).

[LIGHTNING]

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I don't know how reliable this source is, but they just came out and said Sony is a overpriced junky piece of equipment.

Again, I don't know how reliable this source is.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32171

These are the last 2 paragraphs. The rest before that is alot of techno stuff.


Someone screwed up so badly it looks like it will relegate the console to second place behind the 360. All the devs I talked to were lukewarm on the 360 architecture but universally negative on the PS3. Revelations like this go a long way to explain why you keep hearing about simmering problems from the Sony devs.

You end up with a console with half the triangle setup rate of the 360, a crippled CPU that is a bitch to program, and tools that are atrocious compared to the 360. To make matters worse, you have an arrogant set of execs telling us that twice the price is worth it for half the power, a year late. If it isn't already too late, Sony had better do something about this recto-cranial inversion or it may very well sink the console.

The 16MB/sec is the rate the CELL reads data from the GDDR memory according to my sources. Supposedly the CELL will not be required to read from the GDDR memory too often so it is probably not a big deal. Still
16 MB/sec is an extremely low number.

[Ice Cream Truck]

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http://portable.joystiq.com/2006/06/05/rumor-ps3-hardware-slow-and-broken/

Update: The misunderstanding evident in the linked story relates to the distinction between local video memory and local system memory. The slow read speed under discussion is indicative of the feature's lack of utility. This is even reflected on the slide's statement: "No, this isn't a typo ..." A contact at Sony confirmed this telling me, "Again I cannot imagine a situation where you have any SPU reading from the RSX local memory." Nothing to see here, folks.

Blah blah, another week another rumor... This'll never get old

[Spongedaddy]

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http://portable.joystiq.com/2006/06/...ow-and-broken/


Blah blah, another week another rumor... This'll never get old

This kind of thing went on for quite some time in the last gen. I still remember reading articles for and against the emotion engine. I think all of the console companies are too blame somewhat for the hype they are putting into their machines. Sony and Nintendo have bad reps for this and MS is learning fast.

[mjb2124]

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Also, if i wanted to watch one of the formats I'd rather get a standalone player, i don't think game systems are usually as good as a quality standalone (if you want the best playback).

That's the way I've always felt. I've never really thought much of viewing DVD's on an Xbox/PS2/360/PS3. It's definately not the same quality as a standalone player of equal or better quality.

[mjb2124]

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http://portable.joystiq.com/2006/06/...ow-and-broken/


Blah blah, another week another rumor... This'll never get old

Could be nothing, could be damage control. Who knows?

[Ice Cream Truck]

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Top developers slam PS3 "broke" allegations

http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17547

[Spongedaddy]

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That story makes as much sense as the first story. The fact that they wont name sources is strange since the programmers are defending the system. The whole it's broke/it's not hoopla is a bunch of baloney. If the PS3 was really broken there would be quite a few developers who would go on record to talk about it. Several of the studio big wigs are not shy about voicing their opinions. The proof will be in the pudding.

[23]

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I could care less if it was broken or not. The truth is i wish those folks would stop with this garbage spewing.

With that, it serves Sony right for trying to smash the xbox360 in public before its release.

What goes around comes around

[roadman]

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That story makes as much sense as the first story. The fact that they wont name sources is strange since the programmers are defending the system. The whole it's broke/it's not hoopla is a bunch of baloney. If the PS3 was really broken there would be quite a few developers who would go on record to talk about it. Several of the studio big wigs are not shy about voicing their opinions. The proof will be in the pudding.

Agree, each site should be blasted by not naming "sources." The crediablity of those sites should be questioned.