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  • dkgojackets
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    • Mar 2005
    • 13816

    #211
    Re: Rock Band 2

    planning on game only and possibly a drum set if I feel its worth it after playing it some since my brother is getting the full game, the set now just isnt fully functional on some expert songs

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    • elicoleman
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      • Sep 2002
      • 34655

      #212
      Re: Rock Band 2

      Been tempted to look into the Ion drum set since I'd actually like to learn real drums.

      $300 for the basic kit then another $300-350 for the 'brain'. $650 for an electric drumset isn't bad, depending on how good this kit actually is.
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      • Bornindamecca
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        • Jul 2007
        • 10919

        #213
        Re: Rock Band 2

        Originally posted by elicoleman
        Been tempted to look into the Ion drum set since I'd actually like to learn real drums.

        $300 for the basic kit then another $300-350 for the 'brain'. $650 for an electric drumset isn't bad, depending on how good this kit actually is.

        I'm in the same situation. If you have a macintosh, you don't need the drum brain, because you can hook the drums directly into Garageband.

        It's funny, some people have said that playing RB drums isn't the same as playing real drums. This is a mental block they are putting on themselves. Either that, or they have terrible technique when they play Rock Band. Drum teachers tell their students to practice patterns on a drum pad. How can a drum pad help you play real drums, but four drum pads not help you?

        Doesn't make sense. As long as you play with bounce in your stick strokes, you're learning real drum technique. If you're 5 starring songs on expert, it'll probably only take two weeks to translate that onto a real drum set while you get used to the new spacing and bouncier surfaces.
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        • Blzer
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          • Mar 2004
          • 42520

          #214
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          Yes, but I wonder if that will help you be able to create your own material. I mean now you know how to sync n' sway, but unless you're paying really good attention to the songs, does it really help you know what each pad means, how/when it should be used in real songs, etc? I mean I know it definitely helps you acquire the drummer skill, especially with separating your hands and feet and coordinating spectacularly with both... but I just don't know if it really is the steppingstone for one to say they are sufficient on a real drum set.

          But maybe it is, you know? I really don't know, I've only played the game once and it was for < 30 minutes. Not only that, but I've never touched a real drum set in my life. I'm not sure if I'm more than capable of adapting to a real drum set after five-starring songs on Rock Band. I hope it is like that, because this game would be oh so valuable if true.
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          • Miles_Yuhas
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            • Mar 2004
            • 2689

            #215
            Re: Rock Band 2

            The game, and probably that new drum set with the cymbol pack, but I suck at the drums with only four pads so that could get interesting.

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            • CS10029
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              • Feb 2004
              • 4616

              #216
              Re: Rock Band 2

              Originally posted by Blzer
              Yes, but I wonder if that will help you be able to create your own material. I mean now you know how to sync n' sway, but unless you're paying really good attention to the songs, does it really help you know what each pad means, how/when it should be used in real songs, etc? I mean I know it definitely helps you acquire the drummer skill, especially with separating your hands and feet and coordinating spectacularly with both... but I just don't know if it really is the steppingstone for one to say they are sufficient on a real drum set.

              But maybe it is, you know? I really don't know, I've only played the game once and it was for < 30 minutes. Not only that, but I've never touched a real drum set in my life. I'm not sure if I'm more than capable of adapting to a real drum set after five-starring songs on Rock Band. I hope it is like that, because this game would be oh so valuable if true.
              I've been playing drums since I was 13 and I'm 20 now. You make a good point, Rockband will help someone get acquainted with a drum set. Meaning the very basic skills, but being able to actually play a beat and know when a fill will fit is another story.

              The thing I always look for when I seen someone playing Rock Band drums is what they do during the fills. Most people make it sound awful. Drummers will make it sound awesome.
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              • Bornindamecca
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                • Jul 2007
                • 10919

                #217
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                Originally posted by CS10029
                I've been playing drums since I was 13 and I'm 20 now. You make a good point, Rockband will help someone get acquainted with a drum set. Meaning the very basic skills, but being able to actually play a beat and know when a fill will fit is another story.

                The thing I always look for when I seen someone playing Rock Band drums is what they do during the fills. Most people make it sound awful. Drummers will make it sound awesome.
                You know, that's been the confusing thing for me watching these vids. These guys sound awful during the fills. It's hard to say this and sound humble, but I'm really good during the fills. So is my friend. Thing is, we're both musicians already. Not drummers, but I play guitar and he plays bass, so we know what the drummer is supposed to do.

                I think people who've been five starring the game need a sit down with a drummer to discuss theory just once. Either that, or they need to really pay attention to their favorite bands to see what real drummers do. It's really baffling hearing some of these guys play during fills. They spend 85% of the song mimicking a real drummer, and then do something completely the opposite when it comes time to do a fill.
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                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #218
                  Re: Rock Band 2

                  Since most of you guys already have the instruments, which "pack" would you guys recommend? Will each set work with both games? Which pack has the better quality of instruments? Etc.



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                  • Sandman42
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                    • Aug 2004
                    • 15186

                    #219
                    Re: Rock Band 2

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    Since most of you guys already have the instruments, which "pack" would you guys recommend? Will each set work with both games? Which pack has the better quality of instruments? Etc.
                    I'd get the Guitar Hero set. I've always preferred the GH guitar over the Rock Band one. Just something about the strum bar on the Rock Band guitar never felt right. Plus the drum set that comes with GH:WT will also have the cymbals, with Rock Band you'll have to buy those separately as an add-on.
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                    • Fresh Tendrils
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #220
                      Re: Rock Band 2

                      Will the GH stuff work with Rock Band?



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                      • Sandman42
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                        • Aug 2004
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                        #221
                        Re: Rock Band 2

                        I'm pretty sure they will both work for each game.

                        EDIT: Not entirely sure. This article on Kotaku said that GH:WT will be compatiable with with non-Guitar hero instruments.

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                        • Fresh Tendrils
                          Strike Hard and Fade Away
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 36131

                          #222
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                          I thought I saw somewhere that Rock Band said the GH stuff would work with their game, but GH hasn't said anything about RB's stuff.



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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42520

                            #223
                            Re: Rock Band 2

                            Originally posted by CS10029
                            I've been playing drums since I was 13 and I'm 20 now. You make a good point, Rockband will help someone get acquainted with a drum set. Meaning the very basic skills, but being able to actually play a beat and know when a fill will fit is another story.

                            The thing I always look for when I seen someone playing Rock Band drums is what they do during the fills. Most people make it sound awful. Drummers will make it sound awesome.
                            What I found is the fills have a lot of lag in the audio portion. I don't know if it was just the version that I was playing, but it was crappy.

                            But yeah, it sounded like crap for me during the fills.
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                            • Bornindamecca
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                              • Jul 2007
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                              #224
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                              ^^It was just that version, man. The fills sound crispy clean at my house.
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                              • aukevin
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 14700

                                #225
                                Re: Rock Band 2

                                Originally posted by CS10029

                                The thing I always look for when I seen someone playing Rock Band drums is what they do during the fills. Most people make it sound awful. Drummers will make it sound awesome.
                                I sit still and catch my breath during the fills. I know I'm no drummer

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