Mass Effect 3

[SoxFan01605]

Re: Mass Effect 3

I'm about 15 hours in and just finished up some business on The Citadel..

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What's the point in sending me a lesbian assistant... garbage.

Just out of curiosity, would that change something if you had a female Shepard ?

It also seems that Shepard's scars are getting worse as the game goes along..

Just in case (romance options):

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Yeah, she's a romance option for a female Sheppard. The shuttle pilot guy is one for male Sheppard.

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: Mass Effect 3

I'm a vain SOB because I got my scars cleaned up.

[Flawless]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Compiled pre-release quotes:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10056886/1

I especially like these. Spoiler tagged just in case.

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• “There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
  could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
  then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
  say any more than that…”

• “You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless
  of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide
  some answers to these people.”

• Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that
  same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
  Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
  build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
  eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
  coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
  more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
  decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
  stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
  where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
  ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
  variety in them.”

• “[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
  Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

I think I know the answer, but did any of the reviews mention the ending at all? I believe Hudson has fallen back on "critics' reviews" as a defense against his consumer/fans, but I would imagine if the ending causes such a fervor among the fans then surely the reviews would've at least touch on the ending.

I brought that up a few pages ago, after seeing an ad then looking at the reviews listed on Metacritic and none of them mentioned it. The ending isn't universally hated, but it's hated enough that it's weird none of the reviewers made mention of it.

Only after the fact on podcasts.

[BlueNGold]

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“There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
say any more than that…”

But isn't that what happened?

I'm so confused over this whole situation, so I'm just going to assume it's EA's fault.

[DirtyJerz32]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Man, this isn't setting a dangerous precedent by any means. That ending was flat out unacceptable. Impressed the community in unison held on and got results.

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How exactly is this not good for the gaming industry?

Well I haven't finished the game so I don't know how it ends, don't want spoilers. But I just feel like if companies start changing endings in games just because we don't like something, what's to stop this from happening again.

Just a though.

If I'm wrong then so be it, but that's just my opinion.

[goh]

Re: Mass Effect 3

I just made a choice that I am totally ticked about. Didn't have any backup saves either and it auto saved.

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I let Legion upload the code to the Geth, and they destroyed the Quarian fleet. Then Tali was so upset that she took her mask off and fell backwards off a cliff. The paragon icon popped up as she spread her arms to fall and I hit the wrong trigger and was too late. She's dead now and the Quarian fleet with her. I have the Geth forces but Legion died also uploading the code. Tali was one of my favorite characters too.

Not happy at all right now.

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You would've been more pissed if you DID hit the button...it's a fake out.

The best shotgun is the one that comes with the special edition. Once you upgrade it anyway.

[Eman5805]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Compiled pre-release quotes:

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10056886/1

I especially like these. Spoiler tagged just in case.

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• “There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How
  could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and
  then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? But I can’t
  say any more than that…”

• “You'll get answers to everything. That was one of the key things. Regardless
  of how we did everything, we had to say, yes, we're going to provide
  some answers to these people.”

• Interviewer: [Regarding the numerous possible endings of Mass Effect 2] “Is that
  same type of complexity built into the ending of Mass Effect 3?”
  Hudson: “Yeah, and I’d say much more so, because we have the ability to
  build the endings out in a way that we don’t have to worry about
  eventually tying them back together somewhere. This story arc is
  coming to an end with this game. That means the endings can be a lot
  more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many
  decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that
  stuff. It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings,
  where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got
  ending A, B, or C.....The endings have a lot more sophistication and
  variety in them.”

• “[The presence of the Rachni] has huge consequences in Mass
  Effect 3. Even just in the final battle with the Reapers.”

Only after the fact on podcasts.

Like I said. It's like "kiss the bricks" at the Indy 500 actually being slamming headfirst into a brickwall just past the finish line.

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No closure. No noticeable presence of any of the factions you recruit. I wonder if the ending would even be all that different if I just sped through and ignored side quests.

I'm disappointed. But I can easily see how some people are furious and demand a better one.

It's not even so much as closure as it is lack of information. The ending I got pretty much the only people that I know lived are Joker, Liara, and Javik (who was unharmed). But I had him in my party for the last mission. What happened to Garrus, my other running mate? I thought all three rushed the pulled from nowhere beam thingy with me? Was Garrus killed and lying behind me, cuz I wasn't about to turn around with Shep limped up like that. And not sure if another enemy was about to jump out at me in slow motion. But I doubt it cuz Javik somehow got back to the Normandy. Was he shy for that last scene and didn't come off the ship?

And somethings flat out didn't make sense. Was the Destroy ending wave energy thing physical or like some kinda EMP? Cuz it takes out the Reapers but it also looked to destroy Big Ben and set the whole planet on fire. Yet...a couple no name helmeted Alliance soldiers can just jump behind the all mighty waist high walls and they were perfectly fine? How's that work?

[Solidice]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Like I said. It's like "kiss the bricks" at the Indy 500 actually being slamming headfirst into a brickwall just past the finish line.

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No closure. No noticeable presence of any of the factions you recruit. I wonder if the ending would even be all that different if I just sped through and ignored side quests.

I'm disappointed. But I can easily see how some people are furious and demand a better one.

It's not even so much as closure as it is lack of information. The ending I got pretty much the only people that I know lived are Joker, Liara, and Javik (who was unharmed). But I had him in my party for the last mission. What happened to Garrus, my other running mate? I thought all three rushed the pulled from nowhere beam thingy with me? Was Garrus killed and lying behind me, cuz I wasn't about to turn around with Shep limped up like that. And not sure if another enemy was about to jump out at me in slow motion. But I doubt it cuz Javik somehow got back to the Normandy. Was he shy for that last scene and didn't come off the ship?

And somethings flat out didn't make sense. Was the Destroy ending wave energy thing physical or like some kinda EMP? Cuz it takes out the Reapers but it also looked to destroy Big Ben and set the whole planet on fire. Yet...a couple no name helmeted Alliance soldiers can just jump behind the all mighty waist high walls and they were perfectly fine? How's that work?

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Big Ben was actually a reaper..............

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[Drewski]

Well I haven't finished the game so I don't know how it ends, don't want spoilers. But I just feel like if companies start changing endings in games just because we don't like something, what's to stop this from happening again.

Just a though.

If I'm wrong then so be it, but that's just my opinion.

Finish it and let me know how you feel, curious to see if your perspective changes.

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[LambertandHam]

Re: Mass Effect 3

BioWare needs to be very careful about how they address this. They chose to do so and want to keep their creative integrity, but if they charge for some semblance of closure after that ending and the day 1 "From Ashes DLC", it's only going to further upset people.

I think they bit off more than they can chew. Your Shepard and choices carrying over from game to game was probably a bigger burden on them than they'll ever admit. Trying to close it all out and please longtime fans, new players, the Action/Story/RPG settings, and multiplayer in a 18 month dev cycle. A project like this should have been 3 years, but that's probably not going to happen under EA's watch.

Bioware would become the patron saint of gaming if they released the ending DLC/epilogue for free. I'm conflicted about a DLC rewriting the ending itself, just so people can have their

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house with Liara and five blue kids running around

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Fallout 3's "Broken Steel" is a good example of how it can be done, but Mass Effect 3 has so much voice work in it, it'll be insane.

[HarkTheSound]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Beat it two or three days ago, definitely feeling a bit underwhelmed.

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I think I would be relatively ok with the ending if they just cut out the last part showing Joker and the Normandy running away. Seriously. Served no purpose whatsoever.

I would've been happier with the ending being the Illusive Man shooting you and Anderson (happens if you don't do the renegade options) if that was the way Bioware ended the game rather than their actual one, lol.

[DirtyJerz32]

Re: Mass Effect 3

Finish it and let me know how you feel, curious to see if your perspective changes.

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Definietly looking to do this. I'll let you know, hopefully it won't take to long.

[RedPhazon8]

Re: Mass Effect 3

I really think it's a bad idea for them to revisit the ending, the outrage for it was so unnecessary. Anyway you put it, there's a lot of other things to go and complain about other then an ending... and it's not the first time there's been a bad ending.

[Drewski]

That ending was god awful, completely warranted criticism. If it wasn't, then it wouldn't have gotten as big as it did.

Can't think of other issues in the game that were glaring enough to complain about. Was fantastic till the end.

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[Jasong7777]

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Video about a theory on the ending

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