No Man's Sky

[Burns11]

Re: No Man's Sky

Patents aren't like trademarks, you don't lose them if you don't defend them (mostly because it's less obvious that transgressions are being made).

I'm really not sure what Genicap's patents cover extend to No Man's Sky, their patents seem to to be focused on the compression of stuff, not using them to procedurally generate something new.

Anyway Hello Games definitely should hire a good lawyer, and probably just let Genicap have a good look at their code if that will keep them off their backs. By the time Genicap could have something produced from any code they see from Hello Games, No Man's Sky will have been out for a good long time and already be the game of it's ilk. Look how many Minecraft, GTA, etc clones are out there and how many are regarded as a lesser product because of that. I don't think NMS does anything so novel someone else could do it to, it's the application of what they are doing and once the game is out (and even now before it is out) the application of it is well known and repeatable.

Also of note, Sony has no dog in this fight really, all they are is a distributor, Hello Games is developer and publisher so they bear any infringement penalties.

[PVarck31]

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So in a Kotaku article just released, is says that apparently Sean Murray was aware of this patent for a while now.

Logic says that he wouldn't knowingly put this whole game on the line if he knew there could be a potential patent issue.

I have to believe he used what was patented in a way where it wouldn't fall under that patent and potentially violate it.

I can't see him being that stupid.

[rudyjuly2]

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Sean Murray had this response:

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https://youtu.be/9cgrEA6eQ_g

[PVarck31]

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Here is a video someone made about the patent situation. Once again, take it with a grain of salt.

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[EnigmaNemesis]

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Here is a video someone made about the patent situation. Once again, take it with a grain of salt.

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Do you have a synopsis of this?

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[PVarck31]

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Do you have a synopsis of this?

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He basically says that he knows someone who has knowledge on patent law. Then he goes on to show documents that state the patent isn't active. And says his friend says that they would have no case.

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. I've read so many so called patent law experts take on this today my head is spinning.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Ah ok, thanks. I have a gut feeling this will not be as bad as is sounds.

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[PVarck31]

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Ah ok, thanks. I have a gut feeling this will not be as bad as is sounds.

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Same here. Just looking at the context of the situation I'm not as worried as I was. Genicap explicitly said they do not want to stop the launch. They said they are very interested in the game and want to know more about it. And then said they would like to have a civil talk if they are using their specific tech.

And another thing is, they aren't suing them. I've read so many takes on the internet today where people think there is a lawsuit in play. This is not true. And if they were to sue, it would be foolish to do before release. One would think they would sue after HG made a ton of money off the game.

And like I said before I don't think Murray is stupid enough to violate a patent. The superformula isn't patented. Murray can use it how he sees fit. As long as he doesn't use the exact patented code that is the application of the superformula.

And in reality, I think Genicap just may want a licensing fee and credit. Given their initial statement on the matter.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Very rational interpretation. I think you are right on that.

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[Burns11]

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Can this game just come out already? Much better than the combat trailer.

[LingeringRegime]

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45 second mark...

New Technology Discovered!

Man, I am going to be so addicted. My wife is going to kill me.

[PVarck31]

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That trailer looked great. And in the end the Sony wipe said August 9th. I can't really see them releasing another trailer today with the August 9th date at the end if there was any uncertainty about the release date.

[kt-od]

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That trailer looked great. And in the end the Sony wipe said August 9th. I can't really see them releasing another trailer today with the August 9th date at the end if there was any uncertainty about the release date.

Where did you see August 9th? The wipe I saw said 10.08.2016. Unless they are reversing month and day like some do. But I didn't think that because it would be a day off then.

[PVarck31]

No Man's Sky

Where did you see August 9th? The wipe I saw said 10.08.2016. Unless they are reversing month and day like some do. But I didn't think that because it would be a day off then.

It says right at the end available August 9 2016 in the blue Sony wipe. I just watched it again to make sure.


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[Burns11]

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The trailer I posted is the euro version, August 10 is their release date.