The Last of Us Part 2 (PS4)

[ForeverVersatile]

Re: The Last of Us Part 2 (PS4)

16 hours played so far.

Dude...

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Stalkers...

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They make the game a lot more tense than the clickers, especially in the more dark and creepy environments.

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[titanswin53]

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Finished this last night, and IMO, it's a close 10/10 game for me.

I found everything about it to be great. I actually didn't even want to finish it last night, but couldn't stop playing.

The story worked for me, especially if you get the subtle reasons for everyone's motivations. Then again, I'm not a hard critic to games. If I enjoy the gameplay, story, etc, I feel I get my monies worth.

I'm gonna give myself a month or so, then replay TLOUR and then 2 again.

[georgiafan]

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about the ending and future games

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The stopping the violence thing at the end is one I've heard from a lot of people as to why they like it. So going with that how do you have a future game without starting the violence all over again and the 2nd ending being for nothing.

[Jr.]

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about the ending and future games

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The stopping the violence thing at the end is one I've heard from a lot of people as to why they like it. So going with that how do you have a future game without starting the violence all over again and the 2nd ending being for nothing.

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I don't think they're going to do anymore games, but if they do, they will probably create different characters and do a new storyline within the universe

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[kingkilla56]

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I have no doubt there will be more TLOU games.

[JazzMan]

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about the ending and future games

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The stopping the violence thing at the end is one I've heard from a lot of people as to why they like it. So going with that how do you have a future game without starting the violence all over again and the 2nd ending being for nothing.

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IMO, it's Ellie's story, hence the realization of stopping the violence. I have no doubts that there will be another Last of Us in the future, maybe we take over as Lev or Abby in the next game in their search/adventure for the Fireflies, or maybe even elsewhere. Toward the end of the game they were hinting at traveling across the Pacific ocean, it'd be awesome to see a TLOU game set in Japan or Eastern Russia, Vietnam, etc... let's see how other countries have been affected by the virus

[Blzer]

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I just wanted to say that I know nothing about where this game is going to go, and surprisingly only recently have been privy to story controversy in this game. I have a guess of what could possibly happen.

Don't tell me if I'm right or wrong, but I just want to go back to this later and see if there is anything to it. I kind of just wanted a public stamp of approval for myself. Don't read if you haven't gone as far as I've gotten (again, I've played 16 hours and I play kind of slowly), or if you're not interested in considering what could happen here:

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As I'm only at the first look at "stalkers," I'm really not that far. Ellie is still trying to get to the hospital in Seattle. I just came from some sewer water.

Anyway, we've played as Abby before. Why deviate and play as somebody who would kill one of our protagonists unless we are supposed to play more as her later? My guess is that eventually Ellie discovers the truth about what Joel hid before, and either becomes a martyr for the greater good of the human race or is killed rejecting it regardless, and the rest of the story is us playing as Abby as she has to fight off whomever to get the cure to the right place for mass production.

I could be way off-base. Only time will tell on this one. Give me a few more weeks, lol.

[zello144]

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I just wanted to say that I know nothing about where this game is going to go, and surprisingly only recently have been privy to story controversy in this game. I have a guess of what could possibly happen.

Don't tell me if I'm right or wrong, but I just want to go back to this later and see if there is anything to it. I kind of just wanted a public stamp of approval for myself. Don't read if you haven't gone as far as I've gotten (again, I've played 16 hours and I play kind of slowly), or if you're not interested in considering what could happen here:

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As I'm only at the first look at "stalkers," I'm really not that far. Ellie is still trying to get to the hospital in Seattle. I just came from some sewer water.

Anyway, we've played as Abby before. Why deviate and play as somebody who would kill one of our protagonists unless we are supposed to play more as her later? My guess is that eventually Ellie discovers the truth about what Joel hid before, and either becomes a martyr for the greater good of the human race or is killed rejecting it regardless, and the rest of the story is us playing as Abby as she has to fight off whomever to get the cure to the right place for mass production.

I could be way off-base. Only time will tell on this one. Give me a few more weeks, lol.

Game is gonna get juicier.

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Abby's reasons will get revealed.

[JohnnytheSkin]

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Alright, finally finished this. Don't have my hours count as I restarted a chapter mid-playthrough, but I imagine 30-35 hours or so. Loved so much about the game, but really disliked how much more combat there was in this one. It's been the flaw for me with all of Naughty Dog's games since Uncharted...I love the exploring, the character dialogue, the mystery, the world, the puzzles, but damn do I hate all the chest-high walls running and gunning. TLOU2 seemed to take it to another level and there were a lot of times I was frustrated (those damn dogs!), but ended up tweaking some of the difficulty to make it work.

Now the big story part (apologies for anything disjointed or unclear):

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Holy crap did I love the ending. I think a lot of the non-bigoted criticism comes from binary vs. lateral thinking. If you like simple black/white and good/evil characters and plots then this game isn't for you. If you live in a world of gray, I can't imagine why you'd dislike this. Abby reminded me of one of my favorite literary characters of the last 20 years from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones...Jaime Lannister. You hate them right away, but then you learn what motivates them, care about them, and most importantly EMPATHIZE with them, maybe even root for them (which I admittedly did twice in this game).

I've seen complaints that she didn't "earn" the killing of Joel...how? Did we play the same game? It was designed to shock. It started the whole Ellie revenge plot. The fact that her background wasn't handed to you on a silver platter from minute one made the whole story work. And leaving Ellie and Tommy alive made sense unless you were ignorant of the rest of the game...her friends/former Fireflies followed her on this quest, but the quest was just for that. No collateral damage, only Joel. The job was done and they left back home and tried to move on. But as we saw later with Ellie, getting the revenge didn't heal the hole in Abby's heart.

Fighting Ellie as Abby was also well done, as Abby's rage blinded her and it was seen on both ends. It wasn't until Lev intervened, a boy Abby came to care for deeply, overcoming a divide between their two factions, that she backed down and realized anger and killing wasn't enough anymore. It would just continue the cycle. She had someone that mattered to her.

When Ellie couldn't let it go and went west, on the prodding of Tommy (who has lost physical function and likely his wife over his inability to let go and desire for revenge), I was glad it failed. Abby shouldn't have gone out that way. I wanted Ellie to cut her down and just leave...I really didn't need the last fight. I liked the last flashback (Ellie saying she wanted to try and forgive Joel, that her life needed meaning which she would have had if she died) as it showed what Ellie was missing. Her "purpose" was revenge, and when she realized there was more to life than that and left, it was powerful. It ended a cruel, meaningless cycle of violence and now both her and Abby can seek real meaning in their lives. I hope she finds Dina and potato and they work it all out. I hope Abby finds the Fireflies or a life that works for her and Lev.

Other story highs: Ellie and Nora was straight brutal, with her showing her immunity while Nora turned (and the torture not shown onscreen). The Rat King was pure nightmare fuel. Worldbuilding was of course top-notch, with my fave being how they repurposed CenturyLink Field. The guitar minigame was just fun...like a tech demo a dev had and was told to run with.

Minor story quibbles: I wanted to know more about who the prophet was with the Seraphites and they could be characterized a bit more (we did get a little with Lev and Yara), did Abby talk to the Fireflies in the basement in California or was it a trap for the Rattlers, and yes the latter were bad for the sake of being bad like the cannibals in TLOU. I wanted to go into the Space Needle.

Do I want to play it again? Not right away. It needs to simmer. I'll probably check it again if they boost the framerate or make other next-gen upgrades. But it's going to stick with me, and it's definitely the type of story I want. It's not happy, it's not sad...it's real.

[ForeverVersatile]

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Alright, finally finished this. Don't have my hours count as I restarted a chapter mid-playthrough, but I imagine 30-35 hours or so. Loved so much about the game, but really disliked how much more combat there was in this one. It's been the flaw for me with all of Naughty Dog's games since Uncharted...I love the exploring, the character dialogue, the mystery, the world, the puzzles, but damn do I hate all the chest-high walls running and gunning. TLOU2 seemed to take it to another level and there were a lot of times I was frustrated (those damn dogs!), but ended up tweaking some of the difficulty to make it work.

Now the big story part (apologies for anything disjointed or unclear):

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Holy crap did I love the ending. I think a lot of the non-bigoted criticism comes from binary vs. lateral thinking. If you like simple black/white and good/evil characters and plots then this game isn't for you. If you live in a world of gray, I can't imagine why you'd dislike this. Abby reminded me of one of my favorite literary characters of the last 20 years from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones...Jaime Lannister. You hate them right away, but then you learn what motivates them, care about them, and most importantly EMPATHIZE with them, maybe even root for them (which I admittedly did twice in this game).

I've seen complaints that she didn't "earn" the killing of Joel...how? Did we play the same game? It was designed to shock. It started the whole Ellie revenge plot. The fact that her background wasn't handed to you on a silver platter from minute one made the whole story work. And leaving Ellie and Tommy alive made sense unless you were ignorant of the rest of the game...her friends/former Fireflies followed her on this quest, but the quest was just for that. No collateral damage, only Joel. The job was done and they left back home and tried to move on. But as we saw later with Ellie, getting the revenge didn't heal the hole in Abby's heart.

Fighting Ellie as Abby was also well done, as Abby's rage blinded her and it was seen on both ends. It wasn't until Lev intervened, a boy Abby came to care for deeply, overcoming a divide between their two factions, that she backed down and realized anger and killing wasn't enough anymore. It would just continue the cycle. She had someone that mattered to her.

When Ellie couldn't let it go and went west, on the prodding of Tommy (who has lost physical function and likely his wife over his inability to let go and desire for revenge), I was glad it failed. Abby shouldn't have gone out that way. I wanted Ellie to cut her down and just leave...I really didn't need the last fight. I liked the last flashback (Ellie saying she wanted to try and forgive Joel, that her life needed meaning which she would have had if she died) as it showed what Ellie was missing. Her "purpose" was revenge, and when she realized there was more to life than that and left, it was powerful. It ended a cruel, meaningless cycle of violence and now both her and Abby can seek real meaning in their lives. I hope she finds Dina and potato and they work it all out. I hope Abby finds the Fireflies or a life that works for her and Lev.

Other story highs: Ellie and Nora was straight brutal, with her showing her immunity while Nora turned (and the torture not shown onscreen). The Rat King was pure nightmare fuel. Worldbuilding was of course top-notch, with my fave being how they repurposed CenturyLink Field. The guitar minigame was just fun...like a tech demo a dev had and was told to run with.

Minor story quibbles: I wanted to know more about who the prophet was with the Seraphites and they could be characterized a bit more (we did get a little with Lev and Yara), did Abby talk to the Fireflies in the basement in California or was it a trap for the Rattlers, and yes the latter were bad for the sake of being bad like the cannibals in TLOU. I wanted to go into the Space Needle.

Do I want to play it again? Not right away. It needs to simmer. I'll probably check it again if they boost the framerate or make other next-gen upgrades. But it's going to stick with me, and it's definitely the type of story I want. It's not happy, it's not sad...it's real.

You either take out the dog handler right away which makes the dog stand around and cry or keep moving.

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[bcruise]

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You either take out the dog handler right away which makes the dog stand around and cry or keep moving.

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You can also chuck a brick or bottle away from you and when it lands it will draw the dog's attention away without revealing you. Worked great for me throughout my Hard playthrough.

I really didn't want to end up in situations where I'd have to hurt the dogs.

[Brandwin]

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You can also chuck a brick or bottle away from you and when it lands it will draw the dog's attention away without revealing you. Worked great for me throughout my Hard playthrough.

I really didn't want to end up in situations where I'd have to hurt the dogs.

Man, F them dogs. I killed all of them I could. I wish I could have sneaked up behind one and did a stealth kill.

[zello144]

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I'm still not finished with the game but I'm close to the ending.

The story just feels kinda short imo.

[Blzer]

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Whoa. The Accessibility menu has a lot of different options that I wasn't aware of. I suggest everyone explores some of the settings here.

I might tinker with the camera distance and FOV settings a little. I have trouble seeing around me sometimes when trying to engage enemies.

[JMD]

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It's not horrible but it's not great either. Every time I had a companion, they would stand up as opposed to being crouched or in cover like I was. They would get in my way repeatedly. And yeah, the enemy AI doesn't see your companion AI just like in the first game.

My biggest problem with the companion A.I. is when I'm quietly taking people out with my bow and arrow ******* Dina stands up and starts firing away with a gun making a ton of noise and alerting the world. I actually tried to shoot Dina several times, but of course the game wouldn't let me.

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My other big problem with this game is our lack of choice. Everything is scripted to go a certain way based on Druckmans feminist view of things. If we wanted to kill Abbey at the end of the game we should have had that option. Have a pop up appear that simply says kill Abbey or spare Abbey. I mean come on Ellie goes through all she does , kills all of those people, then finally when she's face to face with Joel's killer she has a sudden change of heart. Hogwash.