How dare police officers and their family members follow the law

[Flyboy]

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Amusing stereotype note, my dad just started teaching high school...whenever I talk to him I'll ask if he banged any of his hot female students lately

LOL. That's awesome.

[ballerzinc]

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I know where you are going with this and he never said he pulled people over for no reason........anything that warrants a stop. Speeding, no tag, busted tail light etc. You pull them over and ask for their license and run it. If it comes back clean you give them a warning. If they have a warrant you arrest them.

No he didn't, I know he did have a legit reason, so even if he just randomly picked a car I know it would be in the end be justified. I was just wondering how he picked the car, if there were any rhyme or reason to it. Hell maybe he got a lot of people on warrants than obviously he had a good strategy. He seems like a pretty chill cop to me and someone I wouldn't have a problem with.

[Heelfan71]

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No he didn't, I know he did have a legit reason, so even if he just randomly picked a car I know it would be in the end be justified. I was just wondering how he picked the car, if there were any rhyme or reason to it. Hell maybe he got a lot of people on warrants than obviously he had a good strategy. He seems like a pretty chill cop to me and someone I wouldn't have a problem with.

sorry. I thought you were leading into something else. My bad. :wink:

[jim416]

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How would you know or what was a clue that the guy might have a warrant, if he was just driving his/her car?

We know all the dirtbags. Why wouldn't I check and see. You know, failure to show up with his parole officer, etc., etc., etc.

[jim416]

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I know where you are going with this and he never said he pulled people over for no reason........anything that warrants a stop. Speeding, no tag, busted tail light etc. You pull them over and ask for their license and run it. If it comes back clean you give them a warning. If they have a warrant you arrest them.

And that's another reason. Why not use the tools as we ARE bound by search and seizure laws, believe me. Even clean cut looking people have curfews.

There I covered it...clean cut, and the dirtbags. Should make anyone who is suggesting otherwise happy. Thanks heelfan.

[ballerzinc]

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I got a quick question for any cops here that know some of the underage drinking laws. My dad said he heard on the radio that if cops bust a party that they can't make you take a breathlyzer test because you weren't doing anything where you were being impaired and operating a vehicle and you aren't drunk in public or anything. He also said for this to work though you can be in reach of alcohol or anything or obviously be drinking at the time. I call B.S. on this but I was just wondering if the cops on this board knew anything about this.

[jim416]

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I got a quick question for any cops here that know some of the underage drinking laws. My dad said he heard on the radio that if cops bust a party that they can't make you take a breathlyzer test because you weren't doing anything where you were being impaired and operating a vehicle and you aren't drunk in public or anything. He also said for this to work though you can be in reach of alcohol or anything or obviously be drinking at the time. I call B.S. on this but I was just wondering if the cops on this board knew anything about this.

1. Not against the law to be stone cold fall down drunk in your own house. Most of us have been there one time or another, so there is no reason to submit you to a breathalyzer. Now if you step out into your yard you could be arrested for drunk in public, yes, even in your own yard as it is open to the public.

2. I'm not sure what you're saying in the second thing about "in reach". Can you clarify that one for me? You mean in reach in your house?

3. Breathalyzers are used only for DUI suspects, not drunk in public. Drunk in public is subjective, meaning in the opinion of the officer you are a danger to yourself, unable to care for yourself, so you are taken into custody for your own safety.

[Heelfan71]

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He mentioned underage drinking Jim. That changes the rules doesn't it ?

[jim416]

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I got a quick question for any cops here that know some of the underage drinking laws. My dad said he heard on the radio that if cops bust a party that they can't make you take a breathlyzer test because you weren't doing anything where you were being impaired and operating a vehicle and you aren't drunk in public or anything. He also said for this to work though you can be in reach of alcohol or anything or obviously be drinking at the time. I call B.S. on this but I was just wondering if the cops on this board knew anything about this.

1. Not against the law to be stone cold fall down drunk in your own house. Most of us have been there one time or another, so there is no reason to submit you to a breathalyzer. Now if you step out into your yard you could be arrested for drunk in public, yes, even in your own yard as it is open to the public.

2. I'm not sure what you're saying in the second thing about "in reach". Can you clarify that one for me? You mean in reach in your house?

3. Breathalyzers are used only for DUI suspects, not drunk in public. Drunk in public is subjective, meaning in the opinion of the officer you are a danger to yourself, unable to care for yourseld, so you are taken into custody for your own safety.

[jim416]

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Missed that.

As for underage drinking in a house. The house owner can get arrested and also any under age drinker who can't care for themselves arrested. Usually in these situations we would write the owner a ticket, call the parents and have them come and beat up, uh I mean, take their kids home. That usually works.If you are a juvenile you aren't arrested, but taken into protective custody (awwww, love that).

Underage drinking and driving is ANY amount of alcohol in your system you will be arrested. You don't have to be drunk and driving, just having alcohol in your system is enough.

But again, there is no breathalyzer used for drunk in public. It could be used to show if you're drinking or not, but in court it wouldn't matter.

[JibJab 24]

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I'll straight out tell you I will not write another cop or firefighter...never.

You expect me to turn around and stop a guy who has saved my life, and that I trust with my life, and write him or his wife a ticket? It's the same reason I would never write a military solider. Go join the forces, go to Iraq, and get in a few firefights. Then come back home, join the police, and go work patrol 4 days a week in the dark of the night with only your partner to count on. The you'll learn real quick why King Henry V said, "we few, we happy few, we band of brothers." The bond created is a strong one...I would lay down my life for my fellow officers. And you expect me to write one of them? I'm sorry I just can't.

Agreed, I do the exact same thing. I never have or will I write a ticket too someone who voluntarily puts their life on the line for people they've never met.

[jim416]

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Agreed, I do the exact same thing. I never have or will I write a ticket too someone who voluntarily puts their life on the line for people they've never met.

Being the super patriot that I am, and the love I have for any vet, I wouldn't say never (as an absolute). But, generally, I agree wholeheartedly with you. There was an old sayin used by Vietnam Vets for years. "If you haven't been there, then shut the f*#k up!". It's hard to explain, but, you'd just have to experience it.

Thanks for being an officer of the law. I loved it. It's a tough, tough job.

[JibJab 24]

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So Jim, if someone does happened to get pulled over, what's the best advice for getting a warning instead of a ticket?

Here are a few of my 'guidelines'. Just remember, every officer is different and nothing is a sure way to ensure a warning.

First I only stop people who are doing at least 10+ over the speed limit. In residential zones it's less, say 7 or 8 minimum and during times when kids could be out playing (ie. before, after school). Usually a person will have to be going faster than that before I write a citation, but that's what I look for speeding wise. Once I have stopped them a few things can tilt the scale to the warning side. One, being polite is a big one. You can disagree with me, but if it's a polite and civilized tone, I have no problem with disagreements about actual speed.

The second is having everything organized to go, license, registratrion and insurance papers. I hate standing on a busy highway while someone takes 2 or 3 minutes to find that information.

And a third is I ask when their last ticket was and what it was for. If they are honest and say "I had a speeding ticket a month ago" that helped tip them to a warning. If that person lies and says never, and I look it up, then I'm writing a ticket.

And just as a side note, I've never written a ticket for equipment violation, like a headlight or brake light out. But every officer is different, and those are just a few things that factor into a ticket or warning.

[Chaos81]

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The second is having everything organized to go, license, registratrion and insurance papers.

You actually ask for registration? Wow. I've never been asked for it, and don't know anyone that has either. Is that a state to state thing?

[JibJab 24]

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Being the super patriot that I am, and the love I have for any vet, I wouldn't say never (as an absolute). But, generally, I agree wholeheartedly with you. There was an old sayin used by Vietnam Vets for years. "If you haven't been there, then shut the f*#k up!". It's hard to explain, but, you'd just have to experience it.

Thanks for being an officer of the law. I loved it. It's a tough, tough job.

Exactly, never wasn't the right word there. Where I work, it's expected that an at fault party in an accident is cited, whether it's officer, fireman, veteran, or active duty military. Luckily it doesn't happen that often, but when it does, I can't apologize enough to them. Every time it has happened though, they accept the citation alot better than Joe Citizen does.