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  • RedPhazon8
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    • Aug 2011
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    #346
    Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

    I hate tipping, to the point where I rarely go out to eat anymore where people serve you. I've had jobs where I could of been tipped and I've never gotten anything extra for doing my job. Regardless of what they earn, it's a broken system that I don't want to be apart of.

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    • DonkeyJote
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      • Jul 2003
      • 9177

      #347
      I've worked in the food and service industry for a long time. I've never received tips, so I hate the fact that you're perceived as "cheap" if you don't tip. I probably tip less than most.

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      • Brandon13
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        • Oct 2005
        • 8915

        #348
        Originally posted by Fly3
        I don't.

        Waiters shouldn't expect handouts. If you don't like making $2/hr, get another job.
        Why is it a handout? The only reason your food isn't more expensive is because the restaurant doesn't have to pay its waiters minimum wage. It's not a ****ing handout when the system is set up to operate in this fashion.

        You're just a cheap *******, really.

        Edit: Also, I'd be leery of eating at the same restaurant twice.. .. just as a precaution.
        Last edited by Brandon13; 06-19-2013, 04:22 PM.

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        • 24
          Forever A Legend
          • Sep 2008
          • 2809

          #349
          Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

          I've worked in the service industry for close to 3 years now I've pretty much seen it all. If a customer tips well He/She is pretty much guaranteed the best possible service every single time they enter the restaurant. It's an understanding basically I will make sure that your food comes out when you want it, If there is a waiting list for a table I will make sure to bump you up to the top when you come in. I won't charge you for every single round of drinks. If you are generous enough to give me a good tip for doing my job then I am more than willing to accommodate you and your needs.

          This goes the same for the notorious people that don't tip well. If you come in and I know that you are not going to tip well because of a prior experience, I will make sure that you get charged for everything.

          For the people that leave no tips I don't understand your logic. I am a kid trying to put myself through college. Yes waiting tables is my Job and while you may think that it is menial and "below you" it is not for me. I make my living off my tips I need them to survive, so I can pay bills, buy clothes and feed myself. I'm not going to speak for anyone else here but the life of a server is a tough one especially if it is the only Job your able to get. The people who leave a nice tip brings a massive smile to my face because I'm able to say to myself that I can pay for my bills. I will skip rope through burning rings if it means I get one dollar more then what you gave me.

          On the rare occasions that I go out to eat I always take care of the server because in each waiter/busboy I see myself. Just another person trying to make an honest living.


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          • DonkeyJote
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            • Jul 2003
            • 9177

            #350
            Originally posted by 24
            I've worked in the service industry for close to 3 years now I've pretty much seen it all. If a customer tips well He/She is pretty much guaranteed the best possible service every single time they enter the restaurant. It's an understanding basically I will make sure that your food comes out when you want it, If there is a waiting list for a table I will make sure to bump you up to the top when you come in. I won't charge you for every single round of drinks. If you are generous enough to give me a good tip for doing my job then I am more than willing to accommodate you and your needs.

            This goes the same for the notorious people that don't tip well. If you come in and I know that you are not going to tip well because of a prior experience, I will make sure that you get charged for everything.

            For the people that leave no tips I don't understand your logic. I am a kid trying to put myself through college. Yes waiting tables is my Job and while you may think that it is menial and "below you" it is not for me. I make my living off my tips I need them to survive, so I can pay bills, buy clothes and feed myself. I'm not going to speak for anyone else here but the life of a server is a tough one especially if it is the only Job your able to get. The people who leave a nice tip brings a massive smile to my face because I'm able to say to myself that I can pay for my bills. I will skip rope through burning rings if it means I get one dollar more then what you gave me.

            On the rare occasions that I go out to eat I always take care of the server because in each waiter/busboy I see myself. Just another person trying to make an honest living.
            I worked in fast food for 5 years. I had to put myself through school as well. And I guarantee that I worked every single bit as hard as you. Waiters and bartenders are the only people who exchange good service for tips. Every job I've had, you were expected to give outstanding service to every customer, they shouldn't have to pay extra for it. It's a shady way for a business to "hide" a labor cost.

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            • Brandon13
              All Star
              • Oct 2005
              • 8915

              #351
              Originally posted by DonkeyJote
              I worked in fast food for 5 years. I had to put myself through school as well. And I guarantee that I worked every single bit as hard as you. Waiters and bartenders are the only people who exchange good service for tips. Every job I've had, you were expected to give outstanding service to every customer, they shouldn't have to pay extra for it. It's a shady way for a business to "hide" a labor cost.

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              But the restaurant is just going to charge more for their menu items if they are forced to increase the pay to the wait staff. Now, that's probably the way it should be but I don't see how a typical, decent tipping consumer would see anything more than a marginal decrease in their money spent while dining.

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              • SuperBowlNachos
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                • Jul 2004
                • 10218

                #352
                Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                Originally posted by 24
                For the people that leave no tips I don't understand your logic. I am a kid trying to put myself through college.
                I think it's a few ungrateful waiters and waitresses that ruin it for some of you.

                One of my best friends worked about 30 hours a week and would whine if she had a bad week and only made $300-$400 a week in trips ($10-$13/hr). Most of that cash and tax free. A BAD week making $13 an hour is pretty damn good for someone with no other experience. It's the sense of entitlement that some have that they deserve to make $30 an hour.

                My logic is that compared to other hourly jobs (fast food, retail, etc) they make a lot more. It takes having 5 tables over the span of an hour tip a very crappy $2 each to come out to $10/hr. I worked at Lowe's in college and didn't get tipped after I would load 500 pounds of concrete by myself into the back of a truck when it was 100* out.
                Last edited by SuperBowlNachos; 06-19-2013, 05:47 PM.

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                • 24
                  Forever A Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2809

                  #353
                  Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                  Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                  I worked in fast food for 5 years. I had to put myself through school as well. And I guarantee that I worked every single bit as hard as you. Waiters and bartenders are the only people who exchange good service for tips. Every job I've had, you were expected to give outstanding service to every customer, they shouldn't have to pay extra for it. It's a shady way for a business to "hide" a labor cost.

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                  Fast food and Fine Dining are two completely different things. When Mcdonalds starts having a $50 Filet Mignon on their menu then the two can be compared. You wouldn't believe how dirt cheap people can be

                  The Fast Food industry also supplies you with benefits. A McDonald's worker can recieve :
                  • Competitive wages
                  • Free uniforms*
                  • Free or discounted meals
                  • Flexible hours
                  • Medical insurance*
                  • Prescription drug coverage*
                  • 24-hour nurse line access
                  • Vision discount*
                  • Available dental*

                  • Short-term disability*
                  • Term life insurance*
                  • 401(k)*
                  • Paid holidays*
                  • Vacation*
                  • Educational assistance*

                  That was all copied directly off their website. A McDonalds Worker can be eligible for all that. I can't get any of that, No Benefits No insurance No pension no vacation no nothing.


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                  • DonkeyJote
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 9177

                    #354
                    Originally posted by SuperBowlNachos
                    I think it's a few ungrateful waiters and waitresses that ruin it for some of you.

                    One of my best friends worked about 30 hours a week and would whine if she had a bad week and only made $300-$400 a week in trips ($10-$13/hr). Most of that cash and tax free. A BAD week making $13 an hour is pretty damn good for someone with no other experience. It's the sense of entitlement that some have that they deserve to make $30 an hour.

                    My logic is that compared to other hourly jobs (fast food, retail, etc) they make a lot more. It takes having 5 tables over the span of an hour tip a very crappy $2 each to come out to $10/hr. I worked at Lowe's in college and didn't get tipped after I would load 500 pounds of concrete by myself into the back of a truck when it was 100* out.
                    Exactly. Waiters tend to make a lot more money than people at other establishments that have similar experience, skills, and workloads. I had a gf who waited tables at a Pizza Hut and she would pull in between $5-$10 am hour in tips alone, on top of her wage. I'm working just as hard as she is making a little more than half of what she makes, with the same level of education and similar work experience.

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                    • 55
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 20857

                      #355
                      Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                      Originally posted by Fly3
                      I don't.

                      Waiters shouldn't expect handouts. If you don't like making $2/hr, get another job.

                      Oh boy...

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                      • XtremeDunkz
                        CNFL Commissioner
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3414

                        #356
                        Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                        I had retail jobs at the big box stores when i was younger (Wal Mart, Target, Sears) All of those jobs included carrying heavy equipment to peoples cars, giving the best service possible and running around all day. All for a flat rate of under $8 an hour. I could count the number of tips I got on one hand. Why does bringing plates and cups to you deserve a tip while making phone calls, searching inventory, answering every possible question and loading up your car does not? The system is broken, period.
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                        • 24
                          Forever A Legend
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2809

                          #357
                          Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                          Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
                          I had retail jobs at the big box stores when i was younger (Wal Mart, Target, Sears) All of those jobs included carrying heavy equipment to peoples cars, giving the best service possible and running around all day. All for a flat rate of under $8 an hour. I could count the number of tips I got on one hand. Why does bringing plates and cups to you deserve a tip while making phone calls, searching inventory, answering every possible question and loading up your car does not? The system is broken, period.
                          For the exact same reason's that I mentioned in the Mcdonalds post. You are working for a multinational corporation that gives you benefits. You are guaranteed a wage the majority of the time a server is not.


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                          • Redacted01
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 10316

                            #358
                            Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                            Originally posted by XtremeDunkz
                            I had retail jobs at the big box stores when i was younger (Wal Mart, Target, Sears) All of those jobs included carrying heavy equipment to peoples cars, giving the best service possible and running around all day. All for a flat rate of under $8 an hour. I could count the number of tips I got on one hand. Why does bringing plates and cups to you deserve a tip while making phone calls, searching inventory, answering every possible question and loading up your car does not? The system is broken, period.
                            Now you're starting to mix professions. Someone working a desk job may do all of that (except loading the car) and they could be paid $30,000 a year, helluva lot more than $8 an hour. It's all relative. When I did tutoring in undergrad, I was paid $10 an hour by the university. Most of the time, I did my own homework. You can't say because so-and-so does this much work at this job, they should be paid less. If that were the case, professional athletes wouldn't be as overpaid as they are.

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                            • XtremeDunkz
                              CNFL Commissioner
                              • Aug 2007
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                              #359
                              Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                              umm considering the majority of retail workers are part time employees, that is incorrect. And as to your second point, every friend I have that works as a server, averages well over $10 an hour easily.
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                              • XtremeDunkz
                                CNFL Commissioner
                                • Aug 2007
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                                #360
                                Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                                Originally posted by dochalladay32
                                Now you're starting to mix professions. Someone working a desk job may do all of that (except loading the car) and they could be paid $30,000 a year, helluva lot more than $8 an hour. It's all relative. When I did tutoring in undergrad, I was paid $10 an hour by the university. Most of the time, I did my own homework. You can't say because so-and-so does this much work at this job, they should be paid less. If that were the case, professional athletes wouldn't be as overpaid as they are.
                                im comparing two jobs that don't require any experience or schooling. it is actually a very good comparison.
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