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  • MassNole
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 18848

    #151
    Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

    Originally posted by heitkamp94
    Yea, I have a friend who refuses to tip a dude, won't give them a dime, but he'll fork over all kinds of cash if its a nice looking chick.
    That is pathetic.

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    • heitkamp94
      MVP
      • Dec 2004
      • 1285

      #152
      Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

      Originally posted by MassNole
      That is pathetic.
      Amen, especially when it means I'm forking over the whole tip. I'm not sure what his problem is with it but he's been like that for years.

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #153
        Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

        Originally posted by sportsdude
        that's the thing though, most servers are also non-ballers and/or college students. I know it's been said before but servers are paid a small amount and make most of their money from tips. A lot of people are trying to support themselves through school and when people like you don't tip it's very hard.

        I've worked in the food industry before and let me tell you this: If you don't tip and are a repeat customer, expect to get ****ty service and ****ty food the next time at a place at the very least. You can use your imagination for the worst.

        Penciling in a tip isn't for you? I hope you enjoy that bagel that was sitting on the floor by the trash all night or the chicken that was undercooked.
        Yeah I'm not a charity. If you do an exceptional job, I will probably give you dobule the tax. We're all in the rat race down here in So Cal, I don't mind hurting someone's feelings if they don't perform adequetely.

        So if California does indeed pay servers minimum wage, I don't feel like a prick at all if I choose not to tip. If they didn't make min wage, I'd feel pretty ****ty not tipping.

        And to everyone who swears like my food is tainted..

        As I mentioned, there's a ton of places to eat out here in a ton of different cities with a ton of people. I'll take my chances with my outlook on tipping. It's not as if I live in a small town where there's like three eateries and everyone knows each other's names etc.

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        • Stumbleweed
          Livin' the dream
          • Oct 2006
          • 6279

          #154
          Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

          Yeah, and keep in mind that you not tipping the waiter because something went wrong with the food is basically shooting the messenger. If they took your order wrong or something then that's one thing, but if the kitchen didn't cook your steak right, you shouldn't punish the wait staff.

          There's a lot of things that can go wrong with an order that get pinned on the server just because they're the point-of-contact. Everything from the bar not pouring drinks fast enough to not having enough plates washed can make food take longer to come out or come out wrong.
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          • ex carrabba fan
            I'll thank him for you
            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #155
            Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

            Originally posted by Stumbleweed
            Yeah, and keep in mind that you not tipping the waiter because something went wrong with the food is basically shooting the messenger. If they took your order wrong or something then that's one thing, but if the kitchen didn't cook your steak right, you shouldn't punish the wait staff.

            There's a lot of things that can go wrong with an order that get pinned on the server just because they're the point-of-contact. Everything from the bar not pouring drinks fast enough to not having enough plates washed can make food take longer to come out or come out wrong.
            Well within reason I won't tip. I mean bringing out the wrong food or undercooked food, that doesn't bother me. If the waiter has a ****ty attitude and doesn't bother making sure everything's ok, then he/she probably isn't getting a tip.

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            • Double Eights
              Banned
              • Nov 2005
              • 5733

              #156
              Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

              It makes absolutely zero logical sense to tip people, when all they are doing is.....doing their job. Waitresses and waiters apply for the job of waiting tables, why do they feel they are entitled to extra pay? If they knew they needed more than what they were being payed on base salary, they should find a new job.

              The only thing I can compare tipping to is earning commission, and in the case of commissions, the employer is paying you the bonus...not the customer. It's bogus to have to pay for your meal (especially with increased food prices), and then fork over another portion of your earnings to support the chick/dude who brought you food and took your order.

              Why do you not tip the cook who actually cooked your meal?
              Why do you not tip the bussboy who cleans off the table, so you aren't sitting in slop?
              Why do you not tip the dishwasher who makes sure you aren't eating with dirty forks?
              Why do you not tip the firemen whom save your house from burning down?
              Why do you not tip Janitors at your place of work, school?
              Why do you not tip teachers for teaching you?

              Each and every one of those examples includes people doing their jobs. What makes them different than waiters/waitresses? Why should I tip someone for doing the job they signed up for? The idea of tipping is just moronic in my opinion. With that said, I still tip, but only because I would prefer not to have spit in my burger the next time I eat out.
              Last edited by Double Eights; 05-08-2008, 06:37 PM.

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              • heitkamp94
                MVP
                • Dec 2004
                • 1285

                #157
                Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                Originally posted by Double Eights
                It makes absolutely zero logical sense to tip people, when all they are doing is.....doing their job. Waitresses and waiters apply for the job of waiting tables, why do they feel they are entitled to extra pay? If they knew they needed more than what they were being payed on base salary, they should find a new job.

                The only thing I can compare tipping to is earning commission, and in the case of commissions, the employer is paying you the bonus...not the customer. It's bogus to have to pay for your meal (especially with increased food prices), and then fork over another portion of your earnings to support the chick/dude who brought you food and took your order.

                Why do you not tip the cook who actually cooked your meal?
                Why do you not tip the bussboy who cleans off the table, so you aren't sitting in slop?
                Why do you not tip the dishwasher who makes sure you aren't eating with dirty forks?
                Why do you not tip the firemen whom save your house from burning down?
                Why do you not tip Janitors at your place of work, school?
                Why do you not tip teachers for teaching you?

                Each and every one of those examples includes people doing their jobs. What makes them different than waiters/waitresses? Why should I tip someone for doing the job they signed up for? The idea of tipping is just moronic in my opinion. With that said, I still tip, but only because I would prefer not to have spit in my burger the next time I eat out.
                Wasn't this covered with how little these guys make per hour? If the restaurant pays the servers more then they'll just charge more for the food so its really just helping them keep prices lower.

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                • TheMatrix31
                  RF
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 52906

                  #158
                  Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                  It's just a way to show some extra appreciation for good service, people.

                  Jeez.

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                  • Brandon13
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8915

                    #159
                    Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                    I know it's already been said a thousand times in here but if you go into a restaurant with the idea that you aren't going to tip then you probably shouldn't eat there.

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #160
                      Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                      Originally posted by Brandon13
                      I know it's already been said a thousand times in here but if you go into a restaurant with the idea that you aren't going to tip then you probably shouldn't eat there.
                      I don't get this line of thinking. I go into an eatery with the idea that I'm not going to tip. It's all dependent on the service. If they do their job, then they'll probably get compensated, if they don't then they get nothing extra. Don't see how anyone can disagree with this.

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                      • Brandon13
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 8915

                        #161
                        Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        I don't get this line of thinking. I go into an eatery with the idea that I'm not going to tip. It's all dependent on the service. If they do their job, then they'll probably get compensated, if they don't then they get nothing extra. Don't see how anyone can disagree with this.
                        You don't go in assuming that they're going to do their job?

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                        • ThreeKing
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 5852

                          #162
                          Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                          Originally posted by Double Eights
                          It makes absolutely zero logical sense to tip people, when all they are doing is.....doing their job. Waitresses and waiters apply for the job of waiting tables, why do they feel they are entitled to extra pay? If they knew they needed more than what they were being payed on base salary, they should find a new job.

                          The only thing I can compare tipping to is earning commission, and in the case of commissions, the employer is paying you the bonus...not the customer. It's bogus to have to pay for your meal (especially with increased food prices), and then fork over another portion of your earnings to support the chick/dude who brought you food and took your order.

                          Why do you not tip the cook who actually cooked your meal?
                          Why do you not tip the bussboy who cleans off the table, so you aren't sitting in slop?
                          Why do you not tip the dishwasher who makes sure you aren't eating with dirty forks?
                          Why do you not tip the firemen whom save your house from burning down?
                          Why do you not tip Janitors at your place of work, school?
                          Why do you not tip teachers for teaching you?

                          Each and every one of those examples includes people doing their jobs. What makes them different than waiters/waitresses? Why should I tip someone for doing the job they signed up for? The idea of tipping is just moronic in my opinion. With that said, I still tip, but only because I would prefer not to have spit in my burger the next time I eat out.

                          The hell is the matter with you lately?? Have you lost it?

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                          • sportsdude
                            Be Massive
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5001

                            #163
                            Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            Yeah I'm not a charity. If you do an exceptional job, I will probably give you dobule the tax. We're all in the rat race down here in So Cal, I don't mind hurting someone's feelings if they don't perform adequetely.

                            So if California does indeed pay servers minimum wage, I don't feel like a prick at all if I choose not to tip. If they didn't make min wage, I'd feel pretty ****ty not tipping.
                            nobody's saying you've got to give away money but the reason servers are allowed to be paid less than national and state law minimum wage is because of the expected tips. I've got a lot of friends who are or were at some point servers and not one of them was ever paid more minimum wage or higher without tips.


                            And to everyone who swears like my food is tainted..

                            As I mentioned, there's a ton of places to eat out here in a ton of different cities with a ton of people. I'll take my chances with my outlook on tipping. It's not as if I live in a small town where there's like three eateries and everyone knows each other's names etc.
                            hey man, you're not only one that lives in a big area. People remember things and people talk. Unless you got a different restaurant each and every time you dine, you run the risk of being recognized as the cheap guy who doesn't tip. You think you're not going to get recognized but trust me, it'll happen sooner or later. And when it does, pray that all you get is an upset stomach.

                            If you were one of my friends I'd refuse to eat anywhere with you where servers were involved.
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                            • themush
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 247

                              #164
                              Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                              I tip very well unless the services calls for the change from the dollar amount i.e. bill's 11.60 they get a .40 tip. You would be amazed how appreciative some servers are to know they did a good enough job to warrant a tip.

                              Think of it this way if you really need those extra 3 or 4 dollars you would tip your server should you be eating out in the first place??????
                              There are 3 types of people in the world those who understand math and those who don't.

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #165
                                Re: GUYS, What is your Perspective on Tipping

                                Originally posted by Brandon13
                                You don't go in assuming that they're going to do their job?
                                Are you serious Brandon? People aren't perfect man. To answer you question, I go into eateries with no intentions of tipping. If the server does a nice job, then I'll throw em a few bones.

                                Originally posted by sportsdude
                                nobody's saying you've got to give away money but the reason servers are allowed to be paid less than national and state law minimum wage is because of the expected tips. I've got a lot of friends who are or were at some point servers and not one of them was ever paid more minimum wage or higher without tips.




                                hey man, you're not only one that lives in a big area. People remember things and people talk. Unless you got a different restaurant each and every time you dine, you run the risk of being recognized as the cheap guy who doesn't tip. You think you're not going to get recognized but trust me, it'll happen sooner or later. And when it does, pray that all you get is an upset stomach.

                                If you were one of my friends I'd refuse to eat anywhere with you where servers were involved.
                                Like I've repeated several times, I don't know I guess people just don't read through the thread before posting.. I was not aware of the wages of servers' being below minimum wage. Now apparently in my home state of California, servers do get minimum wage. If I was living in a state that didn't pay their servers minimum, I would definitely tip.

                                That's ok that you wouldn't eat with me.

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