Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

[PVarck31]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Take it easy guys. I know this is an emotionally charged subject, but lets quell the personal attacks. I want this thread to remain open.

[yamabushi]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

I'd wager that everyone here who's finished high school uses or has used "mind altering substances" (with the exception being the one WVU fan).

However, it still makes it kind of difficult to buy the nation wide police killing conspiracy.

Youd lose.

[aholbert32]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

That is not murder.
Read your own "evidence".
It's manslaughter or negligent homicide.
With ANY...I repeat ANY murder charge there must be intent to kill the person.




M.K.
Knight165

Wrong. Ive seen and read hundreds of cases were people were tried and convicted of 2nd degree murder where the wasnt intent. I'm not saying that the officer should be charged with murder 2 but it wouldnt be hard to for a DA to argue that "dangerous conduct" could be an officer pulling and firing a gun on a subdued citizen. Its not as clear cut as you think it is.

[aholbert32]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

It's quite a shame that the people who best know the law and how to enforce it are too busy smoking pot and browsing Operation Sports

Not to defend D8 but even with his weed smoking..his legal analysis is strong here.

[DocHolliday]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Dude made a mistake, take his badge, give him a few years in prison, and lets all move on with our lives.

[Double Eights]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Dude made a mistake, take his badge, give him a few years in prison, and lets all move on with our lives.

Tell that to Oscar Grant.

[DocHolliday]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

I do feel horrible about Oscar, but its not like the guy was some little girl just walking down the subway and was hit in the head with a bullet by the cop. The guy was in a fight on the subway, had the police called over to deal with it, and had a one in a billion chance thing happen to him.

[Scottdau]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

I do feel horrible about Oscar, but its not like the guy was some little girl just walking down the subway and was hit in the head with a bullet by the cop. The guy was in a fight on the subway, had the police called over to deal with it, and had a one in a billion chance thing happen to him.

Yep, but the bottom line is **** Happens. You can be dead tonight. You just not know when your time is. So live life to its fullest.

[The Chef]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Everyone keeps saying that he was cooperating but I havent heard that from anyone other then here on OS, is there a report somewhere that says this? Ive always been told that if a person bends their arm and locks in their elbow that they can make it next to impossible for them to be handcuffed and from that video I cant tell that he did or didnt do that. Now if I assume the cop wasnt out with some vendetta then I wouldnt be surprised if the guy wasnt cooperating and was making things difficult, he was warned and the cop jumped up to taze him and instead shot him on accident. Does the cop get off? No, he should be held accountable but I dont think for a second the cop did this on purpose.

On a side note, hearing these looters in Oakland talking about how they are looting to scare the police like they have been scared of the police is ridiculous. These looters run around and damage people's property that had nothing to do with the entire thing in the first place, talk about directing your anger at the wrong person(s).

[bcruise]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

I'd wager that everyone here who's finished high school uses or has used "mind altering substances" (with the exception being the one WVU fan).

However, it still makes it kind of difficult to buy the nation wide police killing conspiracy.

Youd lose.

Repeatedly.

[Double Eights]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Repeatedly.

You've never drank a caffeinated beverage?

You've never used a painkiller? (even if it's prescribed)

You've never used anything like DayQuil or NyQuil?

Cigarettes, alcohol, cannabis, and drugs (ex: cocaine, heroin, etc..) aren't the only mind-altering substances individuals use. However, these are the ones that get the social stigma.

[Cebby]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Repeatedly.

As D8 said, find me 10 people here who are 3+ years out of high school who have never drank alcohol, used prescription pain killers, or any anti-anxiety, ADD, or anti-depression medication.

I'm willing to give a break for caffeine and surgery because I'm a nice guy.

Now, it is you who would be the repeated loser.

[bcruise]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

Yeah, okay, you got me there. "Told ya so", and all that. There's a reason those don't get the stigma the more harmful ones (to self and others) do.

Those goalposts just got moved so far away I can't even see them anymore...

[yamabushi]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

As D8 said, find me 10 people here who are 3+ years out of high school who have never drank alcohol, used prescription pain killers, or any anti-anxiety, ADD, or anti-depression medication.

I'm willing to give a break for caffeine and surgery because I'm a nice guy.

Now, it is you who would be the repeated loser.

Yeah, okay, you got me there. "Told ya so", and all that. There's a reason those don't get the stigma the more harmful ones (to self and others) do.

Those goalposts just got moved so far away I can't even see them anymore...

really.
If you dont the difference between being prescribed meds for a physical aliment and willfully taking your recreational drug of choice then continuing this discussion is useless.

[Cebby]

Re: Man shot in the back by cops, while on the ground

really.
If you dont the difference between being prescribed meds for a physical aliment and willfully taking your recreational drug of choice then continuing this discussion is useless.

1. Even if you just include alcohol and caffeine, you've probably got 95% of American adults. Both of these are habit forming mind altering substances. Again, find me ten people on this board who are 20+ and have not consumed any alcohol or caffeinated beverages (say, anything stronger than tea), and I will rescind my comment.

2. People survived tens of thousands of years (and continue to do so) without prescription medication. ADD, anti-anxiety, and pain pills work by getting you incredibly high. Given that nobody needs to take this medication, differentiating between prescribed and unprescribed is semantical.

Aside from legality, there's no argument why someone who is too weak to cope with her life so they take xanax is any different between someone who is too weak to cope with his life and has to take cocaine. Women don't need to be pumped with synthetic heroin to have a child, yet we do that for them anyway.

It's almost kind of sad in a way. Prescription drug users have been deemed so deranged and incompetent that they've been granted permission by the government to use serious narcotics.