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  • kingkilla56
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    • Jun 2009
    • 19395

    #526
    Re: Uncommon Opinions

    Originally posted by xtremedunkz
    exactly, id rather have the majority of games be close and exciting, than wait for 1 or 2 games a year that happen to be memorable and have 75% be blowouts.
    But college football includes hundreds of teams, not a concentration of the best guys split 32 ways. The NFL has its joke games as well. I wouldnt say a majority of them are exciting.

    And if you think only 1-2 games a year are memorable then you just dont follow the sport.
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    • Chrisksaint
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      • Apr 2010
      • 19127

      #527
      Re: Uncommon Opinions

      LSU-Bama, Bama-A&M, LSU-Clemson, Clemson-FSU, FSU-NC State, Stanford-ND, Oregon-Stanford, the list goes on. There are more then 1 or 2 memorable CFB games a year
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      • bkrich83
        Has Been
        • Jul 2002
        • 71574

        #528
        Re: Uncommon Opinions

        Originally posted by WatsonTiger
        Dude, at least there are upsets in college sports. The last real game I can recall that can be called an upset in the NFL would be the Seahawks/Saints game, and the only reason people gave a **** was because it was the playoffs. If it wasn't, then it's be just like that Pats/Jags game Chris mentioned earlier.



        Because there are much more meaningless games in the NBA.
        Not any less meaningless than college football games and their joke of a post season.

        At this point give me the NFL where championshiops are decided on the field, not decided like figure skating.
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        • mb625
          DJ2K
          • Jan 2012
          • 5016

          #529
          Re: Uncommon Opinions

          Watson, when mentioning huge upsets you forgot this one... I'm afraid can't let you do that.

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          Also, Louisville (who many felt shouldn't have even been there) beating Florida (whom I believe was #3 at the time) in a BCS Bowl this year.
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          • mb625
            DJ2K
            • Jan 2012
            • 5016

            #530
            Re: Uncommon Opinions

            Originally posted by xtremedunkz
            exactly, id rather have the majority of games be close and exciting, than wait for 1 or 2 games a year that happen to be memorable and have 75% be blowouts.
            Just using Iowa as an example, they weren't by any stretch of the imagination what you would call a "good" or even "okay" football team this season, and yet they played 7 games where the final margin was 7 or less, including a win at Michigan St. in double OT, and a narrow loss at home against then #14 Nebraska...

            I feel like, when you say this, you're thinking about teams like Alabama whose huge wins came against largely inferior Sun Belt teams (FAU and W. Kentucky), FCS teams (W. Carolina) and teams from their own conference that clearly aren't in the same class (6-6 Ole Miss, 5-7 Missouri, 4-8 Arkansas, 5-7 Tennessee (who's wins included the likes of Akron, Troy, GA Southern, and Kentucky), and 3-9 Auburn (who beat UL-Monroe, New Mexico St. and Alabama A&M)). I think you need to stop watching the games where one team is clearly a class above the other and instead watch the games in which teams are evenly matched (AKA, not the top of the SEC vs. the bottom/mid-major/FCS Opponents). There are plenty of good games across the country week in and week out. It can't be helped that these teams don't feel the need to challenge themselves out of conference, but you can't say that there is absolutely no parity in college sports.
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            • Fly3
              Banned
              • Sep 2011
              • 1180

              #531
              Re: Uncommon Opinions

              Can we all agree that, across the board, there is more parity in pro sport leagues than there is in the NCAA?

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              • C the Lyte
                Left side, strong side
                • May 2009
                • 2253

                #532
                Re: Uncommon Opinions

                Pretty sure this is uncommon...

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                • weeeeeeez
                  MVP
                  • May 2011
                  • 1736

                  #533
                  Re: Uncommon Opinions

                  I'd watch College Football pretty much every time over the NFL.
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                  • Watson
                    Burrow Club
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27013

                    #534
                    Re: Uncommon Opinions

                    Originally posted by Fly3
                    Can we all agree that, across the board, there is more parity in pro sport leagues than there is in the NCAA?
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                    • Dog
                      aka jnes12/JNes__
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 11846

                      #535
                      Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                      lolno.
                      Watson, how many times out of 100 can a bottom five team in college football, basketball, (or baseball since you follow it), beat a top five team?

                      Now, how many times out of 100 can a bottom five team beat a top five team in the NFL, MLB, NBA?

                      (I'm not including hockey because I know nothing about college hockey and minimal about the NHL)

                      I don't think you can say that college has more parity. But that's different than the excitement that guys are mentioning above
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                      • C the Lyte
                        Left side, strong side
                        • May 2009
                        • 2253

                        #536
                        Re: Uncommon Opinions

                        ^ Given all those teams in college, I think you have to do a more percentage based ratio rather than bottom 5.

                        That said I think pro leagues do have more parity, but the percentages would make the argument more intriguing.
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                        • NYJets
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 18637

                          #537
                          Re: Uncommon Opinions

                          Originally posted by mb625

                          I feel like, when you say this, you're thinking about teams like Alabama whose huge wins came against largely inferior Sun Belt teams (FAU and W. Kentucky), FCS teams (W. Carolina) and teams from their own conference that clearly aren't in the same class (6-6 Ole Miss, 5-7 Missouri, 4-8 Arkansas, 5-7 Tennessee (who's wins included the likes of Akron, Troy, GA Southern, and Kentucky), and 3-9 Auburn (who beat UL-Monroe, New Mexico St. and Alabama A&M)). I think you need to stop watching the games where one team is clearly a class above the other and instead watch the games in which teams are evenly matched (AKA, not the top of the SEC vs. the bottom/mid-major/FCS Opponents). There are plenty of good games across the country week in and week out. It can't be helped that these teams don't feel the need to challenge themselves out of conference, but you can't say that there is absolutely no parity in college sports.
                          That's the whole point. NFL you can get exciting games AND games that matter between good teams. NFL you can watch say, 49ers vs. Giants and not know what to expect. The elite team in the conference vs a borderline playoff team, and the game is meaningful for both teams, and you don't know who will win. But unless I'm an Iowa fan, I'm probably not going to be as interested in an Iowa game when the only thing at stake is whether they go to the Walmart bowl or the Amazon.com bowl. Even a good matchup between say a 2 loss #10 team vs. a 3 loss #18 team, what's meaningful about it? Can still be entertaining and fun to watch, but not more than an NFL game between 2 good teams imo.
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                          • chilli311
                            Fear the Friar
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2475

                            #538
                            Re: Uncommon Opinions

                            For the sake of the argument, here are the best numbers that could correlate:

                            NFL - The teams with the top five picks in the 2013 draft (without any trades involved) were 1-14 against the teams with the top six records. The only win was the Eagles over the Ravens. The better team won 93.3% of the time.

                            NCAAF - Unranked teams beat ranked teams 36 times out of 219 (83.6%) chances. Just counting BCS teams, that falls to 8 out of 89 (91.0%). Even taking Wisconsin out of the picture since they weren't ranked brings it to 6 out of 79 chances (92.4%)

                            It's hard to get the numbers to be even since the best and worst college teams aren't as clearly defined as in the NFL, but considering the winning percentage difference between NFL top/bottom 5 and BCS/Unranked is less than 1%, I'd say that the parity is pretty close. If you broaden the terms to ranked/unranked, the separation is a lot bigger.
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                            • TCM
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                              • Jun 2011
                              • 1800

                              #539
                              Re: Uncommon Opinions

                              I don't see what the big fuss over Kate Upton is.
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                              • Fresh Tendrils
                                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 36131

                                #540
                                Re: Uncommon Opinions

                                Originally posted by TCM
                                I don't see what the big fuss over Kate Upton is.
                                Outside of two big things I agree.



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