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  • JHedges2
    MVP
    • Jan 2007
    • 4651

    #4201
    Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

    Originally posted by LaXing_
    Streaming a bit @LaXing_


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    Have you adjusted width post patch?

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    Arsenal | New York Yankees

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    • LaXing_
      Rookie
      • Oct 2016
      • 194

      #4202
      Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

      Originally posted by JHedges2
      Have you adjusted width post patch?

      Sent from my Nexus 6P using Operation Sports mobile app


      I've been at 50 for awhile now. Feels better post patch


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      • Dbaja22
        MVP
        • Nov 2016
        • 1434

        #4203
        Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

        My God EA needs to seriously fix the transfer window. I just need to vent out my frustration . I just started my second season with Liverpool and I'm in the summer transfer window. Man united have bought all these players within 3 transfer Windows :
        Kane , Thomas muller, griezman , lukaku, Luis Suarez, laccazette and a couple of top defenders and currently they are bidding for Dybala. This kind of ridiculous crap just plain ruins career mode for me . After the first season is over i lose interest in playing cause that kind of thing just drives me insane .

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        • villabraves
          Pro
          • Mar 2012
          • 690

          #4204
          Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

          Originally posted by loosetranslation
          Anyone seeing something off with foul calls since the update? The officiating has always been a bit of a mess and, it seems calls have always been quite biased toward the CPU, regardless of ref strictness. Of late though, I'm having roughly 1-2 playes a game injured by ridiculous CPU tackles (i.e. from behind, not even close to getting the usual 'magic CPU' touch on the ball, sliding between my player's legs, etc) that go unpunished. Rugby tackles--totally fine. Shirt pull? No problem. Slide tackling my attacker as he runs on to a through ball--well played, defender.

          I've even been getting away with the occasional foul... such as when I successfully injured a particularly obnoxious opponent with a pretty violent two-footer from behind, directly in front of the ref. He played advantage and came back with a warning. Not a red, not a yellow.

          The rest of the game has been playing more or less okay. I don't think the foul numbers have ever really reflected what happens in the match, but things feel a bit more unbalanced since the update.
          Glad I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this! Time and time again I've been hacked down and nothing given but as soon as I lightly brush a CPU player out come the cards and fouls given all the time. It's infuriating. Also noticed since the patch that every ricochet or loose ball nearly always drops to the CPU too. Had one incident the other day playing as Villa against Southampton, had three tackles in quick succession and every time it fell to the CPU and the last one resulted in a long range shot which deflected past my keeper for the opening goal. Been playing with width at 50 too but I'm sure the sliders have nothing to do with this. Very frustrating lately.
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          • Stimuli
            Rookie
            • Nov 2014
            • 311

            #4205
            Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

            Originally posted by villabraves
            Glad I'm not the only one getting frustrated with this! Time and time again I've been hacked down and nothing given but as soon as I lightly brush a CPU player out come the cards and fouls given all the time. It's infuriating. Also noticed since the patch that every ricochet or loose ball nearly always drops to the CPU too. Had one incident the other day playing as Villa against Southampton, had three tackles in quick succession and every time it fell to the CPU and the last one resulted in a long range shot which deflected past my keeper for the opening goal. Been playing with width at 50 too but I'm sure the sliders have nothing to do with this. Very frustrating lately.
            Nothing new here, it's been like this since the start - sliders or no sliders

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            • villabraves
              Pro
              • Mar 2012
              • 690

              #4206
              Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

              Originally posted by Stimuli
              Nothing new here, it's been like this since the start - sliders or no sliders


              I'm afraid some of the bulls*** in this game is getting really ridiculous now. I got promoted with Villa and have now played 12 games in the Premier League. I've won 1, drawn 1 and lost 10!!! The BS is really p*****g me off. I'm sick and tired of my players standing watching and not reacting to the loose ball. I'm sick and tired of every deflection/ricochet going to the CPU and I'm f*****g sick and tired of the CPU scoring in the 90th minute or later, they've done it in 9 games so far which is total BS!


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              • andanesean
                Pro
                • Dec 2016
                • 785

                #4207
                Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                Originally posted by villabraves
                I'm afraid some of the bulls*** in this game is getting really ridiculous now. I got promoted with Villa and have now played 12 games in the Premier League. I've won 1, drawn 1 and lost 10!!! The BS is really p*****g me off. I'm sick and tired of my players standing watching and not reacting to the loose ball. I'm sick and tired of every deflection/ricochet going to the CPU and I'm f*****g sick and tired of the CPU scoring in the 90th minute or later, they've done it in 9 games so far which is total BS!


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                Yes Fifa can bring out the best in us, not least 90 min goal !. Was so frustrated one season that I at 89 min (in several games) set-acceleration AI to 1!. I know..
                Last edited by andanesean; 01-23-2017, 09:33 AM.

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                • Introspectah
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 328

                  #4208
                  Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                  If I seem oblivious, Intro, then that means I'm doing my job right
                  I'd be moved to thoroughly argue the validity of that conclusion, but it's become clear that there's no need to spend any time on that.
                  (Although i must add that i have to acknowledge that i also partially agree with the statement of yours quoted up above.)

                  I can bring up how I changed all the values of only the user in FIFA 15 and saw how the CPU mirrored my play perfectly. I get it. I just don't need to bring it up because it is irrelevant to the slider set.
                  Oh ow, the specific way in which the AI adjusts itself to the input of every other player which varies tremendously from one to the next, definitely is not irrelevant to the slider set, but i acknowledge the redundancy of even considering to provide you anecdotal evidence to the contrary.

                  There's a threshold in which you have to determine what to share and what not to share. This isn't a thread to discuss every single aspect of pattern results that FIFA gives us.
                  I know.
                  Whatever you may be inclined to presume, i'd actually long ago decided for my self to put a cork in the vessel of my naturally overflowing stream of observation which i feel inclined to share whenever i perceive a signal which indicates that it might be useful to someone to lay eyes on the insights i've to offer.

                  Hence, what triggered me to to pull out the cork and let the bottle burst were some comments made by Sarezar (as well as Stimuli, i believe) which compelled me to put forth my views, and that video of yours which naturally provoked a response within me.

                  To frame my scarce, though often loaded, input in here as a nuisance in terms of frequency is blatantly unjust.

                  What's more, almost everything i have brought up in these latest responses definitely was and is related to the effects of slider sets, or, more pertinently related to the mindset which often underlies the management of them.

                  But i really haven't been in this to convert anyone.
                  Just to add some spice of my own, which has proven itself to be unsuitable to this environment, which is fine.
                  You live and you learn.

                  It does no good for a new user to the forums, who is just wanting to grab the sliders and go enjoy their game, to read on about what is inevitably going to happen if they perform this way, or that way, in their Career Modes.
                  All in all i have to agree, since the unremitting desire to maintain the illusion of prestige, control and randomness as opposed to most actions being predetermined due to the regular course of events following recurrent, unshakeable patterns, is ever so strong.

                  An illustrious Indian book of wisdom once instructed me, as the reader, to never wake those from their slumber; whether this pertains to plain ignorance (which is generally not the case here), or voluntary persistence of illusion in order to safeguard the pursuit of pleasure; an instruction of which i presently, ever more regularly, recognize the worth.

                  Yet i continue to be driven by an unrelenting desire to find out the truth in whatever field i engage my self in, hence [...]


                  It's just that i'm still having quite a challenging time learning that most people in life are not as much out for the truth, as much as they like to hold on to the idea of being right or righteous. [= which is a generalization, not an underhand attempt at addressing anyone who i otherwise would and will address by name or signature]

                  This a slider thread that is based on just finding the fundamentals of play to work and start so that the likes of you who want to promote theories of pattern results, etc, can go do that in other threads.
                  I'm not promoting anything.
                  I'm just doing as a naturally freely expressive human being does; sharing his ideas which he found rather appropriate to share given the context and given the undeniable connection the insights i'd gathered share with the matter at hand, in here, at large.

                  Let people figure that on their own.
                  This might be the single wisest suggestion made, coming from the mind of a man whose maturity and wisdom i could not dismiss in all seriousness, and who's definitely, at least in some regards, much more mature than i am.

                  Felt obliged to share this significant sentiment.

                  I don't want to discourage them from using the sliders that we have worked hard on, when they'll just read posts like yours and say "Hell, what's the point?".
                  Mate, you should also be wise enough to know with firm conviction that it'd take much much more than a few controversial posts of mine of which the implications are so easy to dismiss [due to cognitive dissonance] and which will thus as swiftly be pushed out of mind as they were taken in.
                  That is, if they had been allowed to sink in before being dismissed right away.

                  But i'd argue that asking one self from time to time what the point of it all is definitely could be helpful, and far from disastrous given the ardent predilection [held by most] for this pursuit central to the discussion, which has for most people in the past already withstood countless of such questions and disappointments.
                  I doubt mine would make any difference to those that've managed to endure so many disappointments with fifa throughout the years.

                  I just don't spend time talking about it because it deters the thread, which is why we're on the 2nd page of this still.
                  Now, no need to act as if this interaction has been dragged on for so long as it's already been ended before it could've even went somewhere.

                  Besides, since the activity in this thread had been laying on the low for quite a while when i reappeared on the scene, it's unfair to say that i've deterred the flow of this thread when nothing was being actively discussed or handled or anything.

                  "I always repeat the same mantra:
                  Do you want to to be right all the time, or do you want other people to be happy?"
                  Catchy nonetheless hollow mantra, in my eyes, according to my norms.
                  Probably very valuable to you but to me it does seem like quite an odd desire to want people ''to be happy'' since the word happy so often is misplaced in context, not accurately reflecting the actual feelings of people that may end up more satisfied, content or pleased, much more so than ''happy'', which is just such an abused expression nowadays.

                  And even though you may think this is me attaching too much importance onto semantics, it really isn't, since first of all, i see it as a totally futile desire to ''keep people happy'' since this ''happiness'' or state of satisfaction may often be maintained due to fundamentally false notions people are unwilling to question in fear of disrupting their ''state of happiness'' (which is rarely really the case) as to me it's more about being satisfied or content than ''being happy''.

                  But i get that for you, given the nature of your vocation in here, the sentiment underlying that expression is a very real one, driven by the contribution you have been making to the experience of so many fifa-players, so i don't wanna invalidate that.
                  Just understand that my role, hence my purpose, my position and my stance in this is totally different, often (though my role in here really is negligible) diametrically opposed to yours.

                  I always find great value in polarity, as has been displayed by the clash in between my perspective and that of most if not all who, in their good right, challenge my points, so i don't get negatively impacted by dissent, certainly not since i've not by any means chosen to involve my self as a way to defend my version of the truth as the most honourable one, so i can live with being proven wrong or with not having the correctness of my views acknowledged.

                  In other words, i don't need to appear to be right at all costs.
                  I don't care about that.

                  Just wanted to contrast my views to common belief in here, that's all.

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                  • Introspectah
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 328

                    #4209
                    Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                    Sarezar
                    @introspectah - All these things you are describing are called adaptive AI which is part of the game and we can't do anything about.
                    My experience continues to teach me that i am very much enabled and allowed to influence the AI to adapt itself to my gameplay quite differently, depending on how well i manage to fulfill the prerequisites which are required of each player so that the AI can take and treat you seriously.

                    Once i manage to do this (which i don't always manage to) the AI adapts itself quite differently compared to the more manipulative way in which it otherwise does, whenever i'm not fulfilling the basic requirements for ''beautiful play'' as expected by the dev's, which has shown itself to be quite a realistic expectation which they hold.

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                    • Sarezar
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 151

                      #4210
                      Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                      Originally posted by loosetranslation
                      Anyone seeing something off with foul calls since the update?

                      You were probably lucky to not experience this before the update
                      This video is quite old: https://sendvid.com/nemqpixq
                      I actually stopped using the controller waiting for the referee animation, but the play continued...

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                      • andanesean
                        Pro
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 785

                        #4211
                        Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                        Originally posted by Sarezar
                        You were probably lucky to not experience this before the update
                        This video is quite old: https://sendvid.com/nemqpixq
                        I actually stopped using the controller waiting for the referee animation, but the play continued...
                        And the referee was Andre Marriner

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                        • tiagoalexbastos
                          Just started!
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1

                          #4212
                          Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                          Hey guys!

                          Which speed is more realistic, slow or normal ? Thanks!

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                          • LaXing_
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 194

                            #4213
                            Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                            Originally posted by tiagoalexbastos
                            Hey guys!



                            Which speed is more realistic, slow or normal ? Thanks!


                            Personally I say slow along with the majority of the community.

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                            • bacchus
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 22

                              #4214
                              Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                              since the patch the shooting is awful and the goalkeepers are so exageratedly good it is not football anymore. pro footballers just dont shoot so high and wide so often.

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                              • Introspectah
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 328

                                #4215
                                Re: FIFA 17 OS Community Sliders

                                Originally posted by bacchus
                                since the patch the shooting is awful and the goalkeepers are so exageratedly good it is not football anymore. pro footballers just dont shoot so high and wide so often.
                                I don't experience anything like this, so clearly the patch does not affect everybody's gameplay equally.
                                Then, with this certainty in mind, you must ponder what the real cause of this anomalous behaviour could be.

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