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  • Zac
    World-Class Diver
    • Jan 2008
    • 4269

    #10006
    Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

    Originally posted by jb12780
    This just made me realize I should probably load the first and 2nd division of the Dutch league.

    Yeah, a crap load of young talent there. Mostly on PSV, Ajax and Feyenoord. But some other teams have some gems also. Usually some amazing newgens every year too. Portugal is also a good one to have loaded.

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    • JHedges2
      MVP
      • Jan 2007
      • 4651

      #10007
      Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

      Can someone explain WHO requires a work permit? I read the rules section regarding appeals, but is it only U21 players from outside the UK that have to have them? I thought that was the case but I think I've seen older players need them too? Just a bit lost, as I signed a 19 year old from ARG who needed one, and a 19 year old from Spain who didn't.

      TIA.
      Arsenal | New York Yankees

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      • Zac
        World-Class Diver
        • Jan 2008
        • 4269

        #10008
        Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

        Originally posted by JHedges2
        Can someone explain WHO requires a work permit? I read the rules section regarding appeals, but is it only U21 players from outside the UK that have to have them? I thought that was the case but I think I've seen older players need them too? Just a bit lost, as I signed a 19 year old from ARG who needed one, and a 19 year old from Spain who didn't.

        TIA.

        What league are you playing in? Its different for different leagues. The Argentinian would always need one for any league with WP rules, as that is a non EU country. If its post brexit in England you just have to pay 3K a week and the WP doesn't matter.

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        • JHedges2
          MVP
          • Jan 2007
          • 4651

          #10009
          Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

          Originally posted by Zac
          What league are you playing in? Its different for different leagues. The Argentinian would always need one for any league with WP rules, as that is a non EU country. If its post brexit in England you just have to pay 3K a week and the WP doesn't matter.
          This is my Arsenal save.

          I've just started a Dortmund save--and don't think WP's apply...? Or maybe I just haven't come across needing one yet? I haven't seen the "Would likely fail to get a WP" when scouting Brazil...
          Arsenal | New York Yankees

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          • Zac
            World-Class Diver
            • Jan 2008
            • 4269

            #10010
            Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

            Originally posted by JHedges2
            This is my Arsenal save.

            I've just started a Dortmund save--and don't think WP's apply...? Or maybe I just haven't come across needing one yet? I haven't seen the "Would likely fail to get a WP" when scouting Brazil...

            Correct, Germany is not a league/country that has WP rules.

            But they do have youth rules. No one under the age of 17 can play for the first team. So keep that in mind. You can't play a 16 year old wonderkid from your academy. And players under the age of 17 can not transfer into Germany until they are 17.


            I assume you are pre Brexit in this Arsenal save then? In which case for the ARG player to get a WP they have to be an international (INT caps), or you have to spend so much money on the transfer itself (can't remember the numbers, % required). I can't remember the exact rules. Brexit comes after the second season though, and WP don't matter as long as you pay the correct wage. So I'd just sign them even if the WP fails and then loan them out for the rest of the season.
            Last edited by Zac; 02-07-2019, 08:36 PM.

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            • JHedges2
              MVP
              • Jan 2007
              • 4651

              #10011
              Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

              Originally posted by Zac
              Correct, Germany is not a league/country that has WP rules.

              But they do have youth rules. No one under the age of 17 can play for the first team. So keep that in mind. You can't play a 16 year old wonderkid from your academy. And players under the age of 17 can not transfer into Germany until they are 17.


              I assume you are pre Brexit in this Arsenal save then? In which case for the ARG player to get a WP they have to be an international (INT caps), or you have to spend so much money on the transfer itself (can't remember the numbers, % required). I can't remember the exact rules. Brexit comes after the second season though, and WP don't matter as long as you pay the correct wage. So I'd just sign them even if the WP fails and then loan them out for the rest of the season.
              Yeah I am in the 2nd season now, Jan 2020.

              This is GREAT info and most appreciated. Thanks, as always! ::
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              • NoDakHusker
                Ice Cold
                • Mar 2009
                • 4348

                #10012
                Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                Fired up a journeyman save, started unemployed, no badges, sunday league rep. Applied for a few super low level jobs, but (not surprisingly) only one offered me so I had to take it. I'm now leading Albion Rovers in Scottish League 2. Media predicts us to finish bottom, expectations are low which is fine by me. Takes the pressure off.
                Huskers | Chelsea FC | Minnesota United | Omaha

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                • cranes74us
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 608

                  #10013
                  Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                  Originally posted by Zac
                  Yeah, a crap load of young talent there. Mostly on PSV, Ajax and Feyenoord. But some other teams have some gems also. Usually some amazing newgens every year too. Portugal is also a good one to have loaded.
                  My ever first FM game was '13 so Holland will always remain special for me for being my first country to manage in. Ever.

                  Loved playing in the Eredivise and (Jupiler back then) leagues , my first ever "legit" career ever save on FM was FC Groningen. Clearly remember I had a beast at CB by the name of Virgil Van Dijk starting for me. Very new to the game and did not know many players in general so I had no clue who he was. Had a good run.

                  Currently in my Journeyman i'm back in the Eredivise with De Graafshap after spending my first 4 years in Uruguay. Looking at top 3 finish with 2 games remaining.

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                  • jb12780
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 10665

                    #10014
                    Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                    Trying to get my Brazilian CB who didn’t get a pre-brexit work permit a loan deal. Any tips to make it happen? I’ve offered him to clubs and no one has showed any interest yet.


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                    • Zac
                      World-Class Diver
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 4269

                      #10015
                      Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                      Originally posted by jb12780
                      Trying to get my Brazilian CB who didn’t get a pre-brexit work permit a loan deal. Any tips to make it happen? I’ve offered him to clubs and no one has showed any interest yet.


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                      Move them to an affiliate team. If you have affiliate teams (most big clubs usually have multiple) you should be able to right click on the players name, squad > Move to affiliate, select one of the teams. This forces a loan to that club for no wages.

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                      • jb12780
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 10665

                        #10016
                        Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                        Originally posted by Zac
                        Move them to an affiliate team. If you have affiliate teams (most big clubs usually have multiple) you should be able to right click on the players name, squad > Move to affiliate, select one of the teams. This forces a loan to that club for no wages.

                        Guess I’ll find out later if Watford have any.



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                        • Suntan Superman
                          ****
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 7135

                          #10017
                          Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                          Originally posted by jb12780
                          Guess I’ll find out later if Watford have any.



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                          • Zac
                            World-Class Diver
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4269

                            #10018
                            Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                            Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                            Udinese is gonna be a good friend to you.

                            That might not work, as that would be a none EU player for them also. Italy has a rule about 3 non EU players per season, so he would take up a foreign player slot being from Brazil. They'd have to have one open for it to work I think.

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                            • jb12780
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 10665

                              #10019
                              Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***

                              Originally posted by Zac
                              That might not work, as that would be a none EU player for them also. Italy has a rule about 3 non EU players per season, so he would take up a foreign player slot being from Brazil. They'd have to have one open for it to work I think.


                              Originally posted by Suntan Superman
                              Udinese is gonna be a good friend to you.


                              It’s early in the window, and I could always buy a couple of their n-EU players.


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                              • Suntan Superman
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                                • Feb 2009
                                • 7135

                                #10020
                                Re: ***The Official Football Manager Thread***




                                This might be my worst win of FM 2019. Can't say we even deserved the pen.


                                Especially coming off of a 1-1 draw in the 3rd round proper.
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