2020-2021 English Football Thread

[3304Life]

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I have no words for that referee. Given the penalty Pogba got on Saturday, where was Mane’s penalty? The late tackle on Milner got ignored?

It’s not just us, Chelsea had a blatant pen denied yesterday.

It’s almost like the league wants United back at the top.

[KG]

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I have no words for that referee. Given the penalty Pogba got on Saturday, where was Mane’s penalty? The late tackle on Milner got ignored?

It’s not just us, Chelsea had a blatant pen denied yesterday.

It’s almost like the league wants United back at the top.

It would absolutely suck if the sleeping giant (United) wins the title.

We’ve been lucky that their massive fan base has been dormant for nearly a decade.


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[Brahvocado]

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I definitely think the handball penalty rules have gotten a bit silly this year, but if you block a shot on target with your hand even on accident then it should be a penalty.

[Keirik]

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I have no words for that referee. Given the penalty Pogba got on Saturday, where was Mane’s penalty? The late tackle on Milner got ignored?

It’s not just us, Chelsea had a blatant pen denied yesterday.

It’s almost like the league wants United back at the top.

Wait, what penalty did Mane deserve today? Just because Pogba dove doesn’t mean giving more penalties for diving would be the better answer.

[Keirik]

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It would absolutely suck if the sleeping giant (United) wins the title.

We’ve been lucky that their massive fan base has been dormant for nearly a decade.


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[3304Life]

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Wait, what penalty did Mane deserve today? Just because Pogba dove doesn’t mean giving more penalties for diving would be the better answer.

The Walker-Peters one? Where he didn’t even dive, his legs were taken, whereas Pogba literally dived and was given the penalty.

If it’s working for United, as is to be expected considering it’s been happening for almost 30 straight years of them getting EXTREMELY favorable decisions in the box, why can’t it work for everyone else? A world where Fernandes won a penalty last season for a red card challenge on a Villa player, United’s forward have been given a clear mandate to go down under any contact knowing they will always get the decision where VAR won’t overturn as it’s not clear and obvious.

You’re a United fan, so obviously it’s easier to plug your ears and pretend the main reason you’re actually in a title race is the number of decisions you’ve had your way in the last month or so. After all, is the premier league living up to its billing if United arent challenging for the title?

[Keirik]

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The Walker-Peters one? Where he didn’t even dive, his legs were taken, whereas Pogba literally dived and was given the penalty.

If it’s working for United, as is to be expected considering it’s been happening for almost 30 straight years of them getting EXTREMELY favorable decisions in the box, why can’t it work for everyone else? A world where Fernandes won a penalty last season for a red card challenge on a Villa player, United’s forward have been given a clear mandate to go down under any contact knowing they will always get the decision where VAR won’t overturn as it’s not clear and obvious.

You’re a United fan, so obviously it’s easier to plug your ears and pretend the main reason you’re actually in a title race is the number of decisions you’ve had your way in the last month or so. After all, is the premier league living up to its billing if United arent challenging for the title?

Lol wtf. Okay there. I’ve been EXTREMELY vocal about how bad I think diving is for the sport. I don’t think it’s good when anyone does it, so I don’t know where the plugging my ears stuff comes from. I don’t care if it’s Pogba, Bruno, or Mane doing his usual flopping around. It’s bad for the sport. The only thing I find worse are the incidents where players feign injury for the slightest touches to try and get people sent off and I’ve been very vocal about it. The rest of what you posting really isn’t worth responding to.



Edit. Actually the penalty stuff is worth responding to because if you are going to say things like this, you need to at least see some statistics.

Since the 02/03 season, Manchester United has led the premier league in penalties given THREE times. THREE. Currently Leicester leads the league this season. Those THREE years are
19/20
11/12
02/03 ( tied with Fulham for most )

Have they had a lot? Sure. Are they even the most from the 02/03 season until now? Nope. Manchester City is with 107

Here are the “big” team numbers.
Manchester City 107
Manchester United 102
Liverpool 98
Chelsea 97
Arsenal 87

So enough with this stuff about United getting all these decisions that other teams don’t get. Since 2002 Liverpool has had 4 less penalties. Can’t go into other competitions because they all play different games, different competitions, different opponents, etc. Honestly if you want to go back further by all means. That was what I found.

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/premier-league/all-time-premier-league/premier-league-penalty-statistics/

https://www.myfootballfacts.com/premier-league/all-time-premier-league/premier_league_penalty_statistics-by-club/

[Suntan Superman]

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Now this is having a go at someone lmao.

[Krebstar]

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I was curious to see the home/away numbers during that time frame.

Home
74: Manchester City
70: Chelsea
68: Manchester United
59: Arsenal
56: Liverpool

Away
49: Liverpool
38: Manchester United
34: Manchester City
34: Chelsea
30: Arsenal

Also, the overalls I show, from the same source are different. Order remains the same, though.

108: Manchester City
106: Manchester United
105: Liverpool
104: Chelsea
89: Arsenal

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And for the heck of it, pre-VAR.

Home
67: Manchester City
62: Chelsea
57: Manchester United
56: Arsenal
50: Liverpool

Away
45: Liverpool
30: Chelsea
29: Manchester United
27: Manchester City
27: Arsenal

Overall
95: Liverpool
94: Manchester City
92: Chelsea
86: Manchester United
83: Arsenal

[Krebstar]

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And here are the against numbers:

79: Arsenal (can not yet confirm, but I believe 29 of these are on David Luiz)
69: Liverpool
64: Manchester City
52: Manchester United
46: Chelsea

And again, pre-VAR

70: Arsenal
63: Liverpool
57: Manchester City
45: Manchester United
42: Chelsea

All these numbers show why so many Arsenal supporters have had a persecution complex over the years—valid or not, heh.

[Krebstar]

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Found another source, here's the overall for penalties awarded from the inception of the Premier League, 92/93, until now. Keep in mind that Man City was not always in the league each year.

151: Liverpool
139: Manchester United
137: Chelsea
122: Arsenal
117: Manchester City

[KG]

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https://twitter.com/robharris/status/1346474646405672970?s=21

Ruh oh.....


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[Keirik]

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Found another source, here's the overall for penalties awarded from the inception of the Premier League, 92/93, until now. Keep in mind that Man City was not always in the league each year.

151: Liverpool
139: Manchester United
137: Chelsea
122: Arsenal
117: Manchester City

Good stuff and appreciate doing some of the heavy lifting here!

[KG]

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Kreb... do you have a stat of what player(s) have given away the most penalties/awarded the most?


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[Krebstar]

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https://twitter.com/robharris/status...405672970?s=21

Ruh oh.....

A break seems inevitable at this point, even if for a few weeks. The issue, as you mentioned yesterday/the day before, it'll just give players even more of a chance to break rules as they're in the controlled environment of their clubs even less.

So...a break, or more postponed games and teams being forced to play academy players?