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  • ubernoob
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    • Jul 2004
    • 15522

    #5596
    Re: The Transfer Thread

    Originally posted by ImTellinTim
    Kamil Grabara, Polish kid.
    These are the types of moves I like to see from us, which feel like we have been missing for quite some time.

    Under Rodgers we got like what... Allan and Awoniyi as young players for relatively cheap? I feel like anything before Rodgers got the can were big money moves for the most part.

    If he pans out, amazing. If he doesn't, what is the hurt in a 250k transfer. Hopefully under Klopp, we can start focusing the team a bit, stop trying to fit square pegs in round holes and build towards the future.
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    • Brahvocado
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 7480

      #5597
      Re: The Transfer Thread

      Isn't that a bit revisionist? I'm pretty sure if there is one thing you CAN'T criticize Rodgers for, it's trying to bring in high potential youngsters and integrating them into the first team. Sterling, Coutinho, Gomez, Moreno, Flannagan, Rossiter, Origi. They didn't all cost 250k but high potential kids rarely go for that cheap these days.

      Big money signings aren't necessarily bad, your club just has a recent history of spending lots of money on players that don't work out.

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      • Brahvocado
        MVP
        • Oct 2012
        • 7480

        #5598
        Re: The Transfer Thread

        If anything, Rodgers actually changed your youth recruiting for the better. You guys are notorious for trying to find hidden gems, and taking the cheapest route possible by buying slightly younger and much cheaper. Under Rodgers you guys took more risks buying young players.

        If memory serves me correctly, you guys had a legit chance at Courtois, and passed him up because it was too much money for a keeper his age, but that is what you get with those extra couple million pounds.

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        • ubernoob
          ****
          • Jul 2004
          • 15522

          #5599
          Re: The Transfer Thread

          Originally posted by Brahvocado
          Isn't that a bit revisionist? I'm pretty sure if there is one thing you CAN'T criticize Rodgers for, it's trying to bring in high potential youngsters and integrating them into the first team. Sterling, Coutinho, Gomez, Moreno, Flannagan, Rossiter, Origi. They didn't all cost 250k but high potential kids rarely go for that cheap these days.

          Big money signings aren't necessarily bad, your club just has a recent history of spending lots of money on players that don't work out.
          I'm not saying that everyone he brought in was bad at all, nor am I disagreeing with the core of good young talent in our team were brought in on good deals by him.

          I'm just saying I hope we can also focus on smaller signings to go along with some of the large purchases we have been known for. Especially helping build toward the future, as you can see our depth this year is... pretty ****.

          It's not one or the other, it's both that should be done in an ideal world.
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          • Zac
            World-Class Diver
            • Jan 2008
            • 4269

            #5600
            Re: The Transfer Thread

            Originally posted by Brahvocado
            Isn't that a bit revisionist? I'm pretty sure if there is one thing you CAN'T criticize Rodgers for, it's trying to bring in high potential youngsters and integrating them into the first team. Sterling, Coutinho, Gomez, Moreno, Flannagan, Rossiter, Origi. They didn't all cost 250k but high potential kids rarely go for that cheap these days.

            Big money signings aren't necessarily bad, your club just has a recent history of spending lots of money on players that don't work out.
            Rodgers didn't bring in most of the names you listed. Flanagan and Rossiter started in their youth academy at young ages, they've never played for any other teams. Sterling was brought in before Rodgers was hired (2010 vs 2012). So he was again already apart of the youth program prior. Moreno wasn't/isn't a youth player (22 when purchased), neither is Coutinho (21 when purchased). Young yes, but not youth players.

            So the only names on that list that were youngsters were Gomez and Origi. Under 21. And Origi could be seen as a ify under Rodgers, constontly being played out of position. Gomez was his only real gem of a youth player.

            But I guess you could say he deserves credit for playing them in the first team and giving them shots. When most managers shy away from playing such young players like that.

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            • Brahvocado
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 7480

              #5601
              Re: The Transfer Thread

              Originally posted by ZO
              Rodgers didn't bring in most of the names you listed. Flanagan and Rossiter started in their youth academy at young ages, they've never played for any other teams. Sterling was brought in before Rodgers was hired (2010 vs 2012). So he was again already apart of the youth program prior. Moreno wasn't/isn't a youth player (22 when purchased), neither is Coutinho (21 when purchased). Young yes, but not youth players.

              So the only names on that list that were youngsters were Gomez and Origi. Under 21. And Origi could be seen as a ify under Rodgers, constontly being played out of position. Gomez was his only real gem of a youth player.

              But I guess you could say he deserves credit for playing them in the first team and giving them shots. When most managers shy away from playing such young players like that.
              Yeah I know he didn't bring them all in, that "and" was supposed to be an "and/or". My point was more that integrating youth is one of the things Rodgers is actually good at.

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              • VTPack919
                We Go Again
                • Jun 2003
                • 9708

                #5602
                Re: The Transfer Thread

                Originally posted by Brahvocado
                Yeah I know he didn't bring them all in, that "and" was supposed to be an "and/or". My point was more that integrating youth is one of the things Rodgers is actually good at.
                How is that a good counterpoint to this post though? That's not at all what Ubernoob was arguing.


                "Under Rodgers we got like what... Allan and Awoniyi as young players for relatively cheap? I feel like anything before Rodgers got the can were big money moves for the most part.

                If he pans out, amazing. If he doesn't, what is the hurt in a 250k transfer. Hopefully under Klopp, we can start focusing the team a bit, stop trying to fit square pegs in round holes and build towards the future."

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                Last edited by VTPack919; 01-08-2016, 09:56 PM.
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                • Mo
                  SSN
                  • May 2003
                  • 11425

                  #5603
                  Re: The Transfer Thread

                  Both Madrids have been hit with transfer bans
                  Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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                  • jb12780
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 10665

                    #5604
                    Re: The Transfer Thread

                    Originally posted by Mo
                    Both Madrids have been hit with transfer bans
                    It seems this ban is due to both clubs signings ineligible minors.

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                    • ImTellinTim
                      YNWA
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 33028

                      #5605
                      Re: The Transfer Thread

                      So they'll still sign like 80 players and register them on the day the ban lifts like Barca?

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                      • Suntan Superman
                        ****
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 7135

                        #5606
                        Re: The Transfer Thread

                        son of a, Erik Sviatchenko off to Celtic. One of my favorite FM signings is gone now.
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                        • steelerfan
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 4339

                          #5607
                          Re: The Transfer Thread

                          Transfers: Chelsea set to complete signing of Alexandre Pato on loan from Corinthians, sources -via ESPN

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                          • redsox4evur
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #5608
                            Re: The Transfer Thread

                            Palace has signed Emmanuel Adebayor for the rest of the season.
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                            • Brahvocado
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 7480

                              #5609
                              Re: The Transfer Thread

                              Originally posted by redsox4evur
                              Palace has signed Emmanuel Adebayor for the rest of the season.
                              If the rumors about the contract being less than a year are true then this is potentially a very good signing.

                              We all joke about Ade a lot, but he is a legitimate world class striker with almost zero weakness to his game. When he feels like it.

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                              • Bruins
                                .
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 6433

                                #5610
                                Re: The Transfer Thread

                                Originally posted by Mo
                                How the hell is Pato getting a UK Work Permit? Does he have a EU passport that i dont know of?( I only mention this cause he couldnt get one for me in FM)
                                He's going to have to appeal for one, and the expectation is he will get one "because the Brazilian international will accumulate the ‘points’ needed under the new system given the size of the club he is signing for and the wages he will be paid." (Link)

                                Which basically means, because it's Chelsea they're looking the other way.

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