GutterPhenom16 - Madden 15, Realistic Sliders for Online CFM (Finalized)

[GutterPhenom16]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteelCityColt

Were the last two games posted with a lower QBA for the CPU? I'm starting to think the AI QB's confidence plays quite a large role in performance, once they get into rhythm they are unstoppable regardless of who it is. I think that fact I'm awful at Pass D doesn't seem to help. Always seem to give up the dink and dunk throws.

No actually, they were both still at 25.. I am going to lower them both to 15 and see what comes of it.. Will post results soon, sorry for the delay

[SteelCityColt]

Quote: Originally Posted by GutterPhenom16

No actually, they were both still at 25.. I am going to lower them both to 15 and see what comes of it.. Will post results soon, sorry for the delay

Hey, no bother, I was just curious

[JoshC1977]

Quote: Originally Posted by GutterPhenom16

No actually, they were both still at 25.. I am going to lower them both to 15 and see what comes of it.. Will post results soon, sorry for the delay

I've been monitoring your thread as your set looks intriguing (alas my addiction to NCAA 14 has kept me from playing M15 for a while). I can tell you from experience that if you want the CPU QB to throw errant passes and not be Robo-QB-like (as you pointed out on your OP), you have to drop it down to at least 4 before you start seeing a significant difference. Don't worry, they'll still be effective at that range (I actually think 2 or 3 is best).

[GutterPhenom16]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteelCityColt

Hey, no bother, I was just curious

Quote: Originally Posted by JoshC1977

I've been monitoring your thread as your set looks intriguing (alas my addiction to NCAA 14 has kept me from playing M15 for a while). I can tell you from experience that if you want the CPU QB to throw errant passes and not be Robo-QB-like (as you pointed out on your OP), you have to drop it down to at least 4 before you start seeing a significant difference. Don't worry, they'll still be effective at that range (I actually think 2 or 3 is best).

Finally got the game done, started a game against the Jets and it was a damn good one.. But I think I may lower the CPU Accuracy a little more like JoshC is saying, I will test out the CPU Accuracy at 8 and then 5 if I don't like what I see.. but this game was pretty well-fought and while Geno did complete 75% of his passes, only 2 of them went further than 10 yards through the air.

just an FYI - this is with both User and CPU Pass Accuracy set to 15.. I will be running the same game again, but this time with USER and CPU Accuracy set to 6..

Oakland Raiders at New York Jets
Sep 7, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	OT	SCORE
Oakland Raiders (0-0)	7	0	0	14	--	21
New York Jets (0-0)	3	0	3	13	--	19

Team Stats Comparison
	OAK	NYJ
Total Offense	243	230
Rushing Yards	87	111
Passing Yards	156	119
First Downs	11	13
Punt Return Yards	15	11
Kick Return Yards	60	149
Total Yards	318	390
Turnovers	0	1
3rd Down Converstion	5/14 (35%)	6/14 (42%)
4th Down Conversion	--	--
2-Point Conversion	--	0/1 (0%)
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	3-3/0 (100%)	2-2/0 (100%)
Penalties	2/20	6/58
Posession Time	25:50	30:10

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
8:40	(NYJ) N. Folk, 45 Yard Field Goal	0	3
3:25	(OAK) R. Streater, 14 Yard Reception from D. Carr	7	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
2:48	(NYJ) N. Folk, 40 Yard Field Goal	7	6
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
11:28	(OAK) M. Rivera, 6 Yard Reception from D. Carr	14	6
9:22	(OAK) M. Jones-Drew, 2 Yard Rush	21	6
9:07	(NYJ) C. Ivory, 2 Yard Rush	21	13
1:46	(NYJ) E. Decker, 1 Yard Reception from G. Smith (2pt Conversion FAILS)	21	19

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr (124.2) 15/21 156 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Jones-Drew 18 58 3.2 1 M. Reece 9 9 1.0 0 D. McFadden 8 15 1.8 0 D. Carr 1 5 5.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Jones 3 34 11.3 0 M. Rivera 3 23 7.6 1 M. Jones-Drew 3 22 7.3 0 R. Streater 2 33 16.5 1 A. Holmes 2 33 16.5 0 M. Reece 1 7 7.0 0 D. McFadden 1 4 4.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD N. Roach 8 0 0 0 J. Chaney 7 0 0 0 T. Carrie 7 0 0 0 T. Branch 4 0 0 0 T. Brown 4 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 0/1 3/3 3 -- PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 6 294 49.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 3 60 20.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 2 15 7.5 0

New York Jets PASSING C/A YDS TD INT G. Smith (84.3) 15/20 115 1 1 M. Vick (89.2) 4/5 27 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD C. Ivory 25 91 3.6 1 C. Johnson 6 20 3.3 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J. Cumberland 4 33 8.2 0 E. Decker 3 28 9.3 1 T. Graham 3 21 7.0 0 P. Harvin 3 17 5.6 0 J. Kerley 2 26 13.0 0 C. Ivory 2 10 5.0 0 J. Amaro 1 5 5.0 0 C. Johnson 1 2 2.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Davis 12 0 0 0 C. Pryor 6 0 0 0 S. Richardson 6 0 0 0 M. Wilkerson 6 0 0 0 D. Milliner 5 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG N. Folk 2/2 1/1 7 46 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 R. Quigley 6 258 43.0 3 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD P. Harvin 2 125 62.5 0 J. Kerley 1 24 24.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD P. Harvin 2 11 5.5 0

[GutterPhenom16]

Same game, Raiders @ Jets, with CPU and USER QB Accuracy set to 6.. Much more realistic numbers with the completion percentage..

Oakland Raiders at New York Jets
Sep 7, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	OT	SCORE
Oakland Raiders (0-0)	6	6	0	8	--	20
New York Jets (0-0)	3	3	7	10	--	23

Team Stats Comparison
	OAK	NYJ
Total Offense	312	348
Rushing Yards	131	179
Passing Yards	181	169
First Downs	13	17
Punt Return Yards	54	1
Kick Return Yards	84	68
Total Yards	450	417
Turnovers	1	1
3rd Down Converstion	5/14 (35%)	6/14 (42%)
4th Down Conversion	--	--
2-Point Conversion	1/1 (100%)	--
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	5-1/3 (20%)	5-2/3 (40%)
Penalties	6/43	8/70
Posession Time	29:20	26:40

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
9:31	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 34 Yard Field Goal	3	0
4:56	(NYJ) N. Folk, 31 Yard Field Goal	3	3
0:43	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 25 Yard Field Goal	6	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
7:57	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 21 Yard Field Goal	9	3
5:03	(NYJ) N. Folk, 26 Yard Field Goal	9	6
0:00	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 44 Yard Field Goal	12	6
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
5:34	(NYJ) C. Johnson, 14 Yard Rush	12	13
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NYJ
3:57	(NYJ) C. Johnson, 6 Yard Rush	12	20
1:52	(OAK) J. Jones, 9 Yard Reception from D. Carr (2pt Conversion GOOD)	20	20
0:00	(NYJ) N. Folk, 37 Yard Field Goal	20	23

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr (69.8) 15/30 208 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Jones-Drew 16 80 5.0 0 D. McFadden 6 27 4.5 0 M. Reece 4 24 6.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD R. Streater 8 143 17.8 0 D. McFadden 3 29 9.6 0 J. Jones 3 22 7.3 1 M. Rivera 1 14 14.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD N. Roach 7 0 0 0 J. Chaney 7 1 0 0 T. Carrie 5 0 0 0 K. Mack 5 1 0 0 R. Armstrong 3 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 4/4 -- 12 44 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 5 226 45.2 2 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 4 84 21.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 5 54 10.8 0

New York Jets PASSING C/A YDS TD INT G. Smith (80.8) 17/28 189 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD C. Ivory 25 127 5.0 0 C. Johnson 6 52 8.6 2 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD C. Ivory 5 31 6.2 0 J. Kerley 3 62 20.6 0 S. Evans 2 31 15.5 0 P. Harvin 2 20 10.0 0 E. Decker 2 11 5.5 0 T. Graham 1 18 18.0 0 J. Conner 1 8 8.0 0 J. Amaro 1 8 8.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Harris 6 0 0 0 C. Clemons 5 1 0 0 D. Milliner 5 0 0 0 D. Davis 5 0 0 0 M. Wilkerson 4 1 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG N. Folk 3/3 2/2 11 38 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 R. Quigley 5 274 54.8 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Kerley 3 68 22.6 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Kerley 1 1 1.0 0

[GutterPhenom16]

Another great game, and I am becoming more aware that it is confidence based.. Something about it, where if the QB starts off hot, he will remain hot throughout the game (and obviously if you start cold you stay cold judging from the box score below) and this game was pretty good stat-wise. Thanks to all the turnovers I had way more plays to run than normal..

Houston Texans at Oakland Raiders
Sep 14, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	OT	SCORE
Houston Texans (1-0)	0	0	7	7	--	14
Oakland Raiders (0-1)	7	7	0	17	--	31

Team Stats Comparison
	HOU	OAK
Total Offense	290	399
Rushing Yards	92	162
Passing Yards	198	237
First Downs	16	19
Punt Return Yards	4	13
Kick Return Yards	63	30
Total Yards	357	442
Turnovers	6	2
3rd Down Converstion	3/10 (30%)	4/13 (30%)
4th Down Conversion	0/1 (0%)	0/1 (0%)
2-Point Conversion	--	--
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	3-2/0 (67%)	3-2/1 (67%)
Penalties	2/10	3/35
Posession Time	24:51	31:09

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		HOU	OAK
9:17	(OAK) J. Jones, 8 Yard Reception from D. Carr	0	7
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		HOU	OAK
0:32	(OAK) M. Jones-Drew, 1 Yard Rush	0	14
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		HOU	OAK
1:49	(HOU) J. Grimes, 7 Yard Rush	7	14
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		HOU	OAK
12:30	(OAK) U. Young, 15 Yard Interception Return for Touchdown	7	21
3:51	(HOU) R. Griffin, 2 Yard Reception from R. Fitzpatrick	14	21
1:48	(OAK) M. Rivera, 49 Yard Reception from D. Carr	14	28
0:59	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 31 Yard Field Goal	14	31

Houston Texans PASSING C/A YDS TD INT R. Fitzpatrick (48.3) 27/41 224 1 5 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Grimes 11 55 5.0 1 A. Blue 4 38 9.5 0 D. Hopkins 1 -1 -1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD C. Fiedorowicz 7 74 10.5 0 A. Benn 5 36 7.2 0 A. Blue 3 28 9.3 0 D. Hopkins 3 24 8.0 0 J. Grimes 3 24 8.0 0 D. Posey 2 9 4.5 0 L. Pryor 1 18 18.0 0 A. Johnson 1 6 6.0 0 U. Nwachukwu 1 3 3.0 0 R. Griffin 1 2 2.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD B. Cushing 10 0 0 0 D. Swearinger 8 0 0 0 J. Joseph 7 0 0 0 A. Dent 7 0 2 0 P. Soliai 7 0 0 0 K. Jackson 4 0 0 0 W. Mercilus 4 0 0 0 J. Watt 4 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG R. Lindell 0/1 2/2 2 -- PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 S. Lechler 5 210 42.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Grimes 2 35 17.5 0 D. Manning 2 28 14.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Manning 1 4 4.0 0

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr (71.5) 21/37 237 2 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Jones-Drew 15 72 4.8 1 D. McFadden 12 55 4.5 0 M. Reece 9 31 3.4 0 L. Murray 1 4 4.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD R. Streater 6 68 11.3 0 M. Rivera 5 94 18.8 1 J. Jones 4 36 9.0 1 M. Jones-Drew 3 21 7.0 0 D. McFadden 2 13 6.5 0 M. Reece 1 5 5.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD N. Roach 6 0 0 0 J. Chaney 5 0 0 0 S. Moore 4 0 0 0 C. Woodosn 4 0 2 0 D. Hayden 4 0 1 0 K. Mack 2 1 0 0 J. Tuck 2 2 0 0 U. Young 1 0 1 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 1/1 4/4 7 32 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 6 234 39.0 1 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 2 30 15.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 3 13 4.3 0

[GutterPhenom16]

Oakland Raiders at New England Patriots
Sep 21, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	OT	SCORE
Oakland Raiders (1-1)	3	0	3	6	--	12
New England Patriots (1-1)	0	3	14	17	--	34

Team Stats Comparison
	OAK	NWE
Total Offense	348	318
Rushing Yards	109	122
Passing Yards	239	196
First Downs	22	15
Punt Return Yards	0	10
Kick Return Yards	54	52
Total Yards	402	380
Turnovers	2	0
3rd Down Converstion	7/16 (43%)	6/11 (54%)
4th Down Conversion	2/2 (100%)	--
2-Point Conversion	--	--
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1-0/0 (0%)	4-2/2 (50%)
Penalties	3/25	3/25
Posession Time	28:27	27:33

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NWE
4:19	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 39 Yard Field Goal	3	0
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NWE
11:25	(NWE) S. Gostkowski, 37 Yard Field Goal	3	3
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NWE
7:28	(NWE) R. Gronkowski, 7 Yard Reception from T. Brady	3	10
2:15	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 46 Yard Field Goal	6	10
2:02	(NWE) A. Dobson, 69 Yard Reception from T. Brady	6	17
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		OAK	NWE
10:49	(NWE) S. Vereen, 1 Yard Rush	6	24
6:44	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 52 Yard Field Goal	9	24
2:51	(NWE) S. Gostkowski, 30 Yard Field Goal	9	27
1:21	(NWE) J. Mayo, 64 Yard Interception Return for Touchdown	9	34
0:02	(OAK) S. Janikowski, 47 Yard Field Goal	12	34

Oakland Raiders PASSING C/A YDS TD INT D. Carr (57.6) 28/45 239 0 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD M. Jones-Drew 15 78 5.2 0 M. Reece 11 31 2.8 0 D. Ausberry 1 0 0.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD R. Streater 11 105 9.5 0 J. Jones 5 43 8.6 0 M. Reec 4 25 6.2 0 M. Rivera 3 34 11.3 0 M. Jones-Drew 3 15 5.0 0 A. Holmes 2 17 8.5 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J. Chaney 8 1 0 0 C. Woodson 5 0 0 0 J. Tuck 5 3 0 0 R. Dowling 4 0 0 0 N. Roach 4 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Janikowski 4/5 -- 12 52 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. King 3 100 33.3 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 2 35 17.5 0 T. Carrie 2 19 9.5 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D. Moore 1 0 0.0 0

New England Patriots PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Brady (140.2) 19/23 246 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S. Ridley 15 106 7.0 0 S. Vereen 4 13 3.2 1 T. Brady 1 3 3.0 0 J. Develin 1 0 0.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD R. Gronkowski 8 62 7.7 1 B. LaFell 5 60 12.0 0 A. Dobson 2 82 41.0 1 J. Boyce 2 22 11.0 0 S. Ridley 1 10 10.0 0 B. Tyms 1 10 10.0 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD D. Hightower 9 0 0 0 J. Mayo 8 0 1 1 J. Collins 7 0 0 0 D. Revis 7 0 0 0 D. McCourty 7 0 0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG S. Gostkowski 2/2 4/4 10 38 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 R. Malone 3 186 62.0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD S. Vereen 1 26 26.0 0 D. McCourty 1 18 18.0 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD S. Vereen 3 10 3.3 0

[bouli66]

Hi Gutter,

I like your post and I would like to start a new career with them, but I have a question: can I use these sliders for a my player CFM where I would be the QB only?

I tried yesterday quickly with the Texans and the Vikings, and I noticed some very weird runs with Peterson and Foster, they were usually running along the line of scrimmage like if they were trying to avoid any contact instead of rushing into them.
I was wondering if it could because those sliders only work if you control the RB or if I was just calling some very bad plays.

Another question: I saw that back in september you advised to use these sliders for an online CFM and not an offline one, to keep a good accuracy in the CPU stats. Is it still the case now, or did EA fix this difference?