whosnext00's Madden Sliders 15... Rated "E" for Everyone... PRO Version

[TheWood56]

I'll do some testing today, but in my prior testing on pro (only 2 games), I was rolling with CPU reaction time @ 35, interceptions @ 35, and pass coverage @ 75. I threw a few picks and finished both games with <50% completion rate. I was testing the waters quite a bit however, seeing how the DB play was and how user WR's would fight for the ball, so I was a little more careless than normal, but still. Just some food for thought. I can't imagine all 3 sliders set at 100 tbh.

As for ST's sliders, though it's of least importance, the kicking cone is ridiculously slow on pro. You really need to lower user FG and punt accuracy. I had both set to 25 and it was still easy. I would say CPU punt accuracy needs to be about 75 and FG accuracy no lower than 40. Possibly raise FG power a couple notches. I had it set 40 accuracy and 50 power and they didn't attempt a 50-ish yard FG attempt. Instead settled for punting (which was odd) and kicked it straight out of the end zone for a touchback. So essentially it was like a net of 15 yards. That's why their punt accuracy needs to be at least 75 I think for coffin corners, and why CPU FG sliders can't be lowered too much as I assume that's why they passed on a routine 50 yarder.

[TheWood56]

I will also say I think CPU QBA should be lower than 77. I had Brady throw 80% vs me. Then Rivers 66% which was great. This was with QBA 45-55, pass blocking 75-99, and catch 45. I imagine if you go too high (eg. 77) you will see Mettenberger go 24/29 like 4thQtrStre5S witnessed. I want to see missed throws by the CPU.

[4thQtrStre5S]

What I have found is, at this point, Drags and Slants are very hard to complete as a player, but those 2 routes are otherwise the easiest to complete and you could run those 2 routes all day and run the score up.

I could have bad timing on those 2 routes now and just have to find the sweet spot.

[pjburrage]

Played a game with these sliders as the St. Louis Rams (rated 85) @ San Francisco 49ers (rated 92) in Week 4 of the second season in my CFM. Box Score:

St. Louis Rams at San Francisco 49ers
Oct 3, 2015	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
St. Louis Rams (3-0)	3	3	7	0	13
San Francisco 49ers (3-0)	3	6	7	6	22

Team Stats Comparison
	STL	SFO
Total Offense	212	260
Rushing Yards	70	146
Passing Yards	142	114
First Downs	12	16
Punt Return Yards	0	8
Kick Return Yards	150	0
Total Yards	362	268
Turnovers	4	3
3rd Down Converstion	2-6	9-18
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-0
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	1-1	3-4
Penalties	4-25	1-38
Posession Time	19:29	32:28

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		STL	SFO
6:59	(SFO) R.Bironas 48 yard Field Goal	0	3
2:18	(STL) G.Zuerlein 37 yard Field Goal	3	3
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		STL	SFO
4:58	(STL) G.Zuerlein 43 yard Field Goal	6	3
1:48	(SFO) R.Bironas 54 yard Field Goal	6	6
0:00	(SFO) R.Bironas 35 yard Field Goal	6	9
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		STL	SFO
9:15	(STL) T.Austin 5 yard pass from C.Snelling (G.Zuerlein kick)	13	9
2:14	(SFO) C.Kaepernick 6 yard run (R.Bironas kick)	13	16
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		STL	SFO
9:41	(SFO) R.Bironas 20 yard Field Goal	13	19
1:40	(SFO) R.Bironas 50 yard Field Goal	13	22

St. Louis Rams PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C.Snelling 16/27 142 1 4 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD Z.Stacy 14 66 4.7 0 B.Oliver 2 4 2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD T.Austin 4 33 8.2 1 D.Nix 3 43 14.3 0 B.Quick 3 26 8.6 0 Z.Stacy 2 14 7.0 0 S.Bailey 2 17 8.5 0 B.Oliver 2 9 4.5 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK R.Saffold 1 0 D.Nix 1 0 J.Barksdale 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J.Laurinaitis 10 B.Peters 7 A.Ogletree 7 3.0 T.McDonald 5 1 J.Dunbar 5 J.Jenkins 5 R.Quinn 4 2.0 C.Long 4 3.0 L.Joyner 3 1 T.Johnson 2 M.Daniels 1 S.Bailey 1 E.Westbrooks 1 1.0 T.Austin 1 C.Snelling 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG G.Zuerlein 2/2 1/1 7 44 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 J.Hekker 2 101 50.5 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD D.Nix 5 150 30.0

San Francisco 49ers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C.Kaepernick 13/17 163 0 2 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD F.Gore 26 72 2.7 C.Hyde 8 33 4.1 C.Kaepernick 5 41 8.2 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD V.Davis 6 58 9.6 V.McDonald 2 34 17.0 Q.Patton 2 30 15.0 S.Johnson 2 30 15.0 A.Boldin 1 11 11.0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK J.Staley 2 1 B.Miller 1 0 B.Thomas 1 2 A.Davis 0 2 A.Boone 0 3 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD E.Reid 7 P.Willis 5 N.Bowman 4 2 A.Bethea 3 C.Lemonier 3 D.Butler 3 1 B.Trawick 3 A.Lynch 2 T.Brook 2 1 J.Ward 1 T.McBride 1 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG R.Bironas 5/5 1/1 16 55 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 A.Lee 1 48 48.0 1 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD B.Ellington 1 8 8.0

Pros:
1. The game felt good, I missed on some throws I should have hit, but maybe that was the Rookie QB (who for the record is an 84 OVR, 95 THP, 82 SAC, 78 MAC, 82 DAC)
2. Kaepernick played true - took off and scrambled a few times when lanes opened up, his TD run was when I had over pursued off the edge with Eugene Sims.
3. 49ers D played hard, the 4 picks were a mixture of forced throws trying to hit post routes over Bowman, or a DB cutting the routes (Brock - a curl route to Austin & Butler - a corner route to Austin which ended the game)
Cons:
1. 8 Sacks on Kaepernick - 6 in the first half, the final 2 of those turned a 1st and Goal at the 1 to the 35 yard Field. One of the other sacks in the first half was utterly bizarre as a CPU controlled Quinn burst through the OL and hit Kaepernick while he was still in the coming out from under center following the snap. After the 1st snap of the second half, Kaepernick had as many actual throws as he had sacks - was sacked on that first snap. Hopefully this is just a one off.
2. Kaepernick seemed a little too automatic, of his 4 incompletions only one was a poor throw (into triple coverage which really should have been picked off - was classed as the ONLY pass deflection in the game), while another was from a receiver not getting both feet down. The 2 were the Interceptions. Again maybe this was just a one-off - I face a Teddy Bridgewater led Vikings next.

Overall the game seemed good. It was a challenge, without seeming as if the CPU was cheating or that I was holding back. Just hope the Sack numbers are a one-off rather than the norm.

[4thQtrStre5S]

I am playing as the Panthers, in case you can't tell by the number of INT's thrown by Newton, but I threw fewer INT's this game...Please note that the Titans RB S.Greene's stats look high but he had 2 runs over 20 yards and longest run of 44 yards - my fault for trying to switch and user tackle....Also note the teams are switch in the detail boxes...The Team Stat Comparisons are in the proper order under the correct team. Note - all my games, this one, the previous game posted, and future game stats are all from "Play Now" mode.

Tennessee Titans at Carolina Panthers
Nov 18, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Tennessee Titans ()	10	10	7	0	27
Carolina Panthers ()	0	3	8	3	14

Team Stats Comparison
	TEN	CAR
Total Offense	516	470
Rushing Yards	207	76
Passing Yards	309	394
First Downs	22	25
Punt Return Yards	19	23
Kick Return Yards	16	105
Total Yards	551	598
Turnovers	1	5
3rd Down Converstion	5-15	7-17
4th Down Conversion	0-0	2-3
2-Point Conversion	0-0	1-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	3-3	1-1
Penalties	2-30	0-0
Posession Time	34:08	25:52

Tennessee Titans PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C.Newton 24/66 392 1 5 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D.Williams 14 64 4.5 0 J.Stewart 4 17 4.2 0 C.Newton 2 -5 -2.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD G.Olsen 9 168 18.6 0 K.Benjamin 5 79 15.8 0 J.Cotchery 5 59 11.8 1 D.Williams 1 8 8.0 0 R.Brockel 1 13 13.0 0 B.Bersin 1 33 33.0 0 E.Dickson 1 22 22.0 0 J.Avant 1 10 10.0 0 J.Stewart 0 0 0 drop DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD T.DeCoud 8 0 0 0 R.Harper 7 0 0 0 A.Cason 7 0 0 0 L.Kuechly 7 0 1 0 C.Johnson 6 2 0 0 K.Short 5 3 0 0 S.Lotulelei 4 0 0 0 M.White 4 0 0 0 J.Norman 4 0 0 0 T.Davis 3 0 0 0 W.Horton 2 0 0 0 M.Addison 2 0 0 0 T.Boston 2 0 0 0 N.Chandler 2 0 0 0 B.Benwikere 2 0 0 0

Carolina Panthers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT Z.Mettenberger 24/33 337 2 1 M.Oher 1/1 2 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD S.Greene 22 157 7.1 1 B.Sankey 11 41 3.7 0 D.McCluster 3 5 1.6 0 J.Battle 1 5 5.0 0 Z.Mettenberger 1 -1 -1.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD N.Washington 7 122 17.4 0 D.Walker 4 43 10.7 0 K.Wright 4 98 24.5 1 J.Hunter 3 18 6.0 1 S.Greene 2 20 10.0 0 R.Gordon 2 12 6.0 0 D.McCluster 1 14 14.0 0 J.Battle 1 6 6.0 0 B.Sankey 1 6 6.0 0 D.Hagan 0 0 0.0 drop BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK M.Roos 1 0 D.Walker 1 0 .Stingily 0 2 B.Schwenke 0 2 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD A.Williamson 6 0 0 0 J.McCourty 5 0 0 0 W.Woodyard 6 0 0 0 M.Griffin 6 0 2 0 G.Wilson 5 0 1 0 K.Wimbley 4 0 0 0 D.Stafford 3 0 0 0 K.Wooten 2 0 0 0 C.Sensabaugh 2 0 0 0 B.Wreh-Wilson 3 0 2 0 J.Casey 2 0 0 0 B.Pollard 2 0 0 0 S.Phillips 2 0 0 0 D.Walker 1 0 0 0 B.Harris 1 0 0 0

[TheWood56]

Just played 2 games on pro. Great experience.

1st game Steelers (me) vs Titans. 13 min quarters. I won 49-10. While that looks like a blowout, which it was, the stats were actually very realistic and the game played great. I won due to Roethlisberger carving up in the 1st half. He finished roughly 25/35, 270 yards, 3 TD's. My running game was solid but not spectacular. Bell finished 21 for 95 yards 2 TD's (I think). Archer and Blount had about 15 carries between them 4.0 avg roughly. Titans running game struggled a little but they were down from the get go so abandoned it somewhat. Sankey finished with a respectable 4.5 avg due to a couple nice runs late. Mettenberger struggled with accuracy but did hit a 73 yard bomb to Wright. Burnt my cover 3 defense. Was a pretty sight. Otherwise he completed about 55%. He got injured then Whitehurst came in and completed about 50% with no splash plays. Then he got injured and it was Locker's turn. Similar results for him. My D had 1 or 2 picks. Definitely 1 on a hail mary late. Had 4 sacks all game which was great. Good pressure all game though. One was a strip sack which resulted in Keisel running it 80 yards for a TD. Sankey I think had another fumble as well. All in all very good game, bar the blowout. Couple drops by receivers but very realistic. AB had 3 for me actually. Their guys had 1 or 2 total. Weather was snowing which was probably a factor.

2nd game was Raiders (me) vs Seakawks. Only 6 min quarters. I won 16-3. I couldn't run the ball at all (with DMC or MJD) and struggled with Carr completing about 55%. DMC did take a HB screen to the house but. Was about 60 yards. Otherwise Carr had nothing long. He missed some throws and felt like an inconsistent rookie QB. Seahawks D was tight but. Wilson struggled for them too. About 55%, 1 pick thrown. Had a couple nice scrambles. He's the reason for their zero offensive output but. Lynch carved me up running. As did Turbin. They should've kept running. Was about 8 yards a pop between the two of them. Only a couple sacks on Wilson which was good. Turbin fumbled on a beautiful looking strip tackle animation by a LB. All in all very good game again.

Side note: BIG difference between Roethlisberger and Carr throwing the ball, and Titans D vs Seahawks D, which is exactly what you want. Adds to the realism. Need to tweak sliders a little to give the CPU offense a lift (mainly passing), but I love what I'm seeing so far.

USER – CPU:

QBA: 3 – 60 (up from 55)
Pass block: 0 – 99
Catch: 44 – 44
Run block: 0 – 99
Fumbles: 33 – 55 (up from 44)
Reaction time: 3 – 44
Interceptions: 3 – 44
Pass coverage: 33 (down from 44) – 88 (up from 77)
Tackle: 3 – 60 (down from 66)

Penalties all 50 except:
Offside: 77
False start: 70
Holding: 77
DPI: 10
OPI: 10
KR/PR interference: 77

Game speed normal. Threshold 0.

[4thQtrStre5S]

I'm formulating an hypothesis that QB Acc, at least, or to some degree, determines how accurate passes are for particular routes...Maybe WR Catch has something influence too; but Drag routes, flats and slant routes seem to be impossible to complete with one or more of the human sliders at 0....

So the lower the QB Accuracy, the less accurate the QB is on the easier, higher percentage routes? IS that how it is working? The "Gimme" routes are removed the lower you go in accuracy?

anyone else seeing this, or is it possible there is a timing difference and i'm not hitting it properly...

deeper crossing routes and posts, seem to be as easy or difficult as expected for the slider level....Curls are hit and miss and have led to some interceptions.

[TheWood56]

Hmm. I just played Broncos with Bucs and Manning went 43% 0 TD's 2 INT's. Meanwhile I went 21-31 with Glennon for 375 yards and 2 TD's. Won 19-0. I don't understand. Very frustrating. I was hoping Manning would be hard to stop and wouldn't take dumb sacks. You up CPU passing sliders and lower user pass coverage and the best QB plays like the worst all of a sudden. Back to the drawing board.

EDIT: Two things I'd love to adjust gameplay wise, just not sure how: 1) slow down user pass rush, and 2) speed up CPU pass rush. I find the CPU is under too much constant pressure, and that I have too much time in the pocket. I've maxed out CPU pass block to 100 and minimized user pass block to 0. Not sure what else can be done there. Also, twice now on pro I've had my starting RB go missing from the game. I haven't adjusted fatigue or auto-subs at all from what I had it on, and I've never ever experienced it before. First one was Le'Veon Bell after 21 carries. Went completely missing half way through 3rd quarter to never return. Second was Giovani Bernard, and only after 10 carries for him. He disappeared at halftime I believe. Neither were injured and both were still #1 on the depth chart. My backup RB was getting all the snaps while my #3 was getting subbed in for him after fatigue. The announcers would still say "Bell lined up in the backfield" even when it was Dri Archer but. Then when he carried his stats would come up as normal and they'd commentate him running the ball etc. but before the snap they'd call my starting RB's name in the huddle and on the field. Very odd.