whosnext00's Madden Sliders 15... Rated "E" for Everyone... PRO Version

[4thQtrStre5S]

I wouldn't change the run game at all...I consistently ran at a high average cause i ran trap plays about 97% of the time, and there really is no stopping them without user controlling on defense...The issue is the pass completions; still with human it is hard to complete short passes, that should be high completion passes under the West Coast offense theory...With a lower CPU QB Acc. it just seems that Romo checked down faster; 77 seemed fine...The OPI & DPI set at 15 seems good for at least more testing...I may set CPU QB Acc back to 77 and give that a run with the same teams here. The changing of the CPU interceptions slider seemed to work, but maybe dropping pass reaction to 50 from 100 was a bit much and 75 might be a nice middle? Thinking a Human QB Acc. of say 1 to 3 might balance things out...The majority of human completions came within the 2 min period of each half; so there seems to be a "come from behind" coding going on that boosts the losing team???? anyway, here is the box score -

Dallas Cowboys at Detroit Lions
Nov 19, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Dallas Cowboys (0-0)	14	17	7	0	38
Detroit Lions (0-0)	7	7	0	6	20

Team Stats Comparison
	DAL	DET
Total Offense	436	375
Rushing Yards	217	176
Passing Yards	219	199
First Downs	23	21
Punt Return Yards	19	21
Kick Return Yards	21	137
Total Yards	476	526
Turnovers	0	2
3rd Down Converstion	7-11	9-13
4th Down Conversion	0-0	0-1
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-1
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	5-5	3-4
Penalties	0-0	0-0
Posession Time	35:57	24:01

Dallas Cowboys PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T.Romo 27/31 219 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D.Murray 20 98 4.9 1 L.Dunbar 15 57 3.8 1 J.Randle 3 44 14.6 0 T.Romo 1 18 18.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D.Bryant 7 68 9.7 0 J.Witten 6 48 8.0 0 C.Beasley 3 47 15.6 0 T.Williams 2 16 8.0 0 T.Benford 2 16 8.0 0 D.Harris 2 5 2.5 1 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK T.Clutts 4 0 Z.Martin 2 0 J.Witten 2 0 R.Leary 1 0 T.Hills 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD B.Church 8 0 0 0 J.Wilcox 7 0 0 0 R.McClain 6 0 0 0 J.Hamilton 4 0 0 0 B.Carr 4 0 1 0 J.Heath 3 0 0 0 T.Patmon 1 1 0 0

Detroit Lions PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M.Stafford 14/35 203 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD R.Bush 22 123 5.5 1 J.Bell 7 53 7.5 1 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD C.Johnson 7 96 13.7 0 B.Pettigrew 3 41 13.6 1 C.Fuller 2 20 10.0 0 J.Ross 1 23 22.0 0 G.Tate 1 24 24.0 0 R.Bush 0 0 0 drop BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK D.Raiola 1 0 L.Warlord 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD G.Quin 13 0 0 0 T.Whitehead 6 0 0 0 J.Ihedigbo 5 0 0 0 D.Carey 5 0 0 0 I.Abdul-Quddus 4 0 0 0 D.Slay 4 0 0 0

[Last Gunfighter]

So guys, I ended up not having as much time to test as I thought I would last night. But in my limited time I tried to get in at least one game. I plugged in the sliders, went into my Vikes CFM, imported the sliders and started a game against the Panthers. Well, lets just say I got murdered, completely destroyed. I'm thinking man, WTH, I can't even compete on Pro! Then I noticed I left the difficulty on All-Pro. Just a suggestion, do not try those sliders on All-Pro, they're brutal!

One thing I did notice, I think Fatigue needs to come down, at 90 I had everybody subbing, RBs, WRs, TEs, OL, DL, LBs, DBs, basically everyone but the QB. My WRs couldn't even make a complete series!

[4thQtrStre5S]

Starting a new Lions v Cowboys game....First series as the Lions, completed a curl, a drag and a slant route, then got intercepted on a slant route; QB Stafford is 4/6 44 yards and 1 int, with QB Acc at 1.... CPU Pass Reaction at 75 and CPU QB Acc back to 77...everything is according to the updates changed to the OP settings...

The INT came on a Curl/flat play versus a Cover 2 Man Under. Pass intended for the Split End.

Thinking CPU pass reaction at 100 helps the CPU passing game in regards to the deeper passes they attempt...I changed it from 50 to 75 and now back to 100 and the CPU's passing game opened up....Where at 50 it was shorter passes and nearly perfect completion rating through 3 quarters, Romo has made 2 incomplete passes in the first half with Pass Reaction for CPU back at 100...

thinking offsides and roughing the passes may have to go back to their original settings...I am using the same handful of defensive plays from the previous game, as the "Coach Suggestions" gives me, and I already have a sack and a hurry and tackle for loss on the RB in less time than the last 2 games i've played. essentially shutting down teh CPU Cowboys on 3rd down, so they are not as much a scoring threat at the newer settings.

conclusion - every setting back to their original settings and just put HUM QB Acc to 1...

[TheWood56]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

...Thinking that Hum QB accuracy just needs to be raised a hair, maybe to 3?

I've been rolling with it at 3 and really like what I'm seeing. Got hot with Roethlisberger and felt like I carved up, and he only had a 74% rate from 35 attempts. While that's good, if that's the top end of the scale, I think that's a great outcome. Meanwhile with that same 3 QBA setting, very next game, I struggled massively with Carr (Oakland) only completing 55% of my passes, and no big splash plays either. BIG difference between the two QB's, which is what I want. Another game I went 66% with Glennon.

Personally, I think 3 plays great, however I definitely wouldn't bump it any higher than that. I think 2-3 is perfect.

[TheWood56]

Quote: Originally Posted by 4thQtrStre5S

Thinking CPU pass reaction at 100 helps the CPU passing game in regards to the deeper passes they attempt...I changed it from 50 to 75 and now back to 100 and the CPU's passing game opened up....Where at 50 it was shorter passes and nearly perfect completion rating through 3 quarters, Romo has made 2 incomplete passes in the first half with Pass Reaction for CPU back at 100...

I'm not sure about this. I had CPU reaction time at 44 and QBA at 55 and Mettenberger hit a beautiful looking 73 yard bomb to Wright vs my cover 3 defense. I've also noticed a few other deep plays by the CPU vs me, and I've never had their reaction time above 50, nor their QBA above 60.

Just my experiences...

[4thQtrStre5S]

Here are my results with the updated sliders - exceptions are I moved CPU QB Acc back to 77 after the 1st quarter, because there were too many quick check downs to the shortest route receiver. Also moved CPU Pass Reaction from 50 to 75 to 100 within the 1st half....Seems the penalty slider changes may have led to the 4 sacks I got, though I didn't control any defensive players. Romo was injured on a scramble and as the stats will show, no difference between Romo or Weeden; which is a typical Madden issue. I did move Human QB Acc to 1, and I believe that was reflected in the completion percentage...I am going to revert all sliders back to their original settings except for HUM QB Acc which I will put at 1, for my next game...WIll leave CPU INT's at 75 for one more game...keeping OPI & DPI at 15....So offsides and Roughing the Passer will revert back to their orig settings for next game.

Dallas Cowboys at Detroit Lions
Nov 19, 2014	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	SCORE
Dallas Cowboys ()	0	10	0	13	23
Detroit Lions ()	7	3	7	7	24

Team Stats Comparison
	DAL	DET
Total Offense	381	468
Rushing Yards	95	211
Passing Yards	286	257
First Downs	20	29
Punt Return Yards	12	14
Kick Return Yards	0	141
Total Yards	393	623
Turnovers	0	1
3rd Down Converstion	6-14	6-12
4th Down Conversion	1-1	1-1
2-Point Conversion	0-0	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties	0-0	1-1
Posession Time	27:20	32:40

Dallas Cowboys PASSING C/A YDS TD INT B.Weeden 11/15 160 1 0 T.Romo 22/28 150 0 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD D.Murray 13 71 5.4 1 L.Dunbar 5 17 3.4 0 T.Romo (inj on run) 1 7 7.0 inj RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD J.Witten 5 19 3.8 0 C.Beasley 5 66 13.2 0 T.Williams 5 81 16.2 0 G.Escobar 5 39 7.8 0 D.Murray 4 6 1.5 0 D.Bryant 3 25 8.3 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK J.Witten 1 0 T.Hills 0 1 D.Murray 0 1 R.Leary 0 1 M.Bernadeau 0 1 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD B.Church 10 0 0 0 R.McClain 8 0 0 0 O.Scandrick 5 0 0 0 B.Carr 5 0 0 0 J.Heath 4 0 0 0 B.Carter 4 0 0 0 S.Moore 3 0 1 0

Detroit Lions PASSING C/A YDS TD INT M.Stafford 21/39 257 1 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD R.Bush 24 145 6.0 0 J.Bell 14 68 4.8 2 M.Stafford 1 -2 -2.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD C.Johnson 8 120 15.0 0 B.Pettigrew 4 39 9.7 0 G.Tate 3 23 7.6 0 R.Bush 2 8 4.0 0 J.Fauria 2 41 20.5 1 C.Fuller 2 26 13.0 0 BLOCKING PANCAKE SACK B.Pettigrew 2 0 R.Reiff 1 0 DEFENSE TACK SACK INT TD J.Ihedigbo 8 1 0 0 G.Quin 6 0 0 0 M.Seisay 5 0 0 0 C.Vaughn 5 0 0 0 R.Mathis 5 0 0 0 T.Whitehead 3 0 0 0 J.Jones 1 1 0 0 G.Johnson 1 1 0 0 C.Mosley 1 1 0 0

[Shadowthedemon]

gonna broadcast a game on twitch if anyone is interested.

http://www.twitch.tv/shadowthedemon

all settings are the same as in the OP (the ones updated today, none of the testing ones)

[4thQtrStre5S]

Here are the sliders I am using based off whosnext00's sliders....I believe it is within the penalty sliders that the balance may be found - the original penalty sliders made a very tough game against the CPU - the adjusted penalty sliders (in red in the OP), made for an easier human game; Thus I think the balance key lays in the Offsides, Intentional Grounding and Roughing the Passer sliders. With the newer penalty sliders I was intercepted less but sacked the CPU more...If I revert back to the original penalty sliders, leaving cpu QB acc @ 77 and INT @ 75, i still get intercepted, but sacks appear to go down...

HUMAN/CPU

(Offense) (250)
QB Accuracy: 1/77
Pass Blocking: 0/100
WR Catching: 0/44


Run Blocking: 0/75
Fumbles: 0/100

(Defense) (200)
Reaction Time: 0/100
Interceptions: 0/75
Pass Coverage: 0/100

Tackling: 0/100

(Special Teams) (250)
FG Power: 50/50
FG Accuracy: 30/30
Punt Power: 50/50
Punt Accuracy: 70/70
Kickoff Power: 60/60

(Universal Effects)
Injury: 51
Fatigue: 90
Threshold: 0 (65)
Game Speed: Normal
Quarter Length: 15 minutes
Min. Play Clock: 18 seconds
Skill Level: Pro

(PENALTIES) (550)
Offsides: 75 < - key in balancing the current game. (between 55 & 75?)
False Start: 35
Holding: 55
Facemask: 50
D.P.I.: 15 <- seems solid
O.P.I.: 15 <- seems solid
KR/PR: 50
Clipping: 50
I.Grounding: 65 < - key in balancing the current game (between 65-80?)
RTP: 80 < - key in balancing the current game. (between 50 & 80?)
RTK: 30